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slik 05-03-2016 04:32 PM

Breaking: Ryback taken off tv, unloads on tumblr about it!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feed Me More - Today I sit and fly home and for the first time in years feel absolutely free. I will start... <a href="https://t.co/B8QMdPOUd6">https://t.co/B8QMdPOUd6</a></p>&mdash; The Big Guy (@Ryback22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryback22/status/727584621614006273">May 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Today I sit and fly home and for the first time in years feel absolutely free. I will start by saying I did request to be taken off of WWE television until myself and Vince could get a yes or no on a new deal. This has been going on since my IC Title run and had been nothing but a major strain on my life as all I ever wanted to do was work for WWE. I was told to head home until we agree or not agree to specific terms and contrary to reports it isn’t over money or a bus that stuff was settled a while ago. It comes down to a major problem I have with not only WWE but wrestling in general.

Wrestling is pre determined, we as performers know before we go out to that ring or perform a backstage scene who is winning and losing etc or have a general idea of what we are going to say. It blows my mind how in a sport which is pre determined from a company standpoint winners are paid so much more than the losers. Every single person who works for WWE from top to bottom is absolutely just as valuable as the next. The winners cannot win unless the losers go out there and agree to lose to them.

It blows my mind that in this day and age though we still adhere to this formula. Obviously things have always been this way, but does that make them right? Times have changed and our goal as humans should be to evolve and learn from our past and the past of others so we could make this world a better place. Why is it a guy who is told he is going to go out and lose and does everything he is told be paid not only less, but much less than said winner over a period of time. Every single performer for WWE sacrifices the same amount of time from home and their families and every single man or women goes out and does what they are told. Looking at this formula though losers turn into what fans like to call jobbers and their value decreases in the companies eyes and before you know it they get released. For what? For doing exactly as they are told!

Why not pay the talent equally? The winners have more MERCH as it is or are supposed to anyways so they get that extra perk, but why make the guy who is told to and agrees to lose earn less and sacrifice spots in big pay per view match ups etc. This is one of the major problems with wrestling and WWE today. Most guys take great satisfaction in helping making other talent, the bitching and the moaning we always hear about stems from the fact they know they are ultimately over time going to make less and live in fear of being released.

I am proud to say I have never gone to change a finish and have gladly took pride in helping put over other talent. Hell look at my pay per view record of 12-26 and you will see that has been the pattern of my career. I have always been confident in my ability and work ethic to being my best every day and ultimately always felt that by doing good it was the right thing to do. Personally seeing my money go down over the years though even though I was working as much as ever and being denied magazine covers and other projects as well as watching my role diminish no matter what I did or how hard I tried takes its toll on a human. Being told no matter how hard I work or how good I get doesn’t always pay off is something I fucking refuse to ever believe in my life. I am a creative being and to be restricted time and time again is no way to live life. There is nothing I cannot do and I know no matter what comes of this situation I am going to be just fine. It isn’t soley about money, it is about commitment. Commitment to a guy who fucking cares and who loves this more than anything in the world and wants to know that his passion his efforts and his determination to constantly improve is going to be recognized and taken care of.

WWE may very well release me, which if it is the case so be it. If we can work things out a lot needs to change as I am not living in fear and creatively cannot continue to live a life that limits me creatively. I have many other interests and passions and have been very smart with my finances over the years. I thank every WWE superstar from top to bottom for their sacrifices and for working with me. The world is an amazing place and there is more than just a WWE universe there is The Universe and I will prove one way or another over time I am the greatest big guy in the universe!

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Big Vic 05-03-2016 04:33 PM

Click bait. Ryback didn't type this this is just one of slik's "news" stories again.

Big Vic 05-03-2016 04:38 PM

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...contrary to reports it isn’t over money...
Goes on to talk about money.

Big Vic 05-03-2016 04:40 PM

He should go on colt cabana's podcast to complain.

Bad News Gertner 05-03-2016 04:41 PM

I hope he comes back :(

slik 05-03-2016 04:42 PM

Baron Corbin probably going to get The Ryback's spot. Gertner should prob start worshiping The Lone Wolf!

slik 05-03-2016 04:47 PM

Ryback's such a lock for TNA they already owe him back pay.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-03-2016 05:02 PM

I hope he quits. He was literally their next big star sitting in their hand and they blew it to the point of no return. His issues with money are of no interest to me. He seems like a talented enough guy and he's been there for over a decade. I hope they don't meet terms and he gets the chance to branch out elsewhere, maybe Japan, to recreate himself and put his money where his mouth is about creatively handcuffed.

Not to mention, he's practically useless for them, atm.

Maluco 05-03-2016 05:31 PM

I feel like Ryback would be huge in Japan, much the same way that Vader was. They love their monster heels and Ryback is a talented and charismatic guy.

He may be hard-hitting and clumsy in the ring, but that could be refined in Japan. He could be over huge. Not to mention the fact that they don't mind a harder hit!

His argument is a bit confusing, because usually, the losers are deemed the least valuable by the company, but more wrestlers should have power over trademarks and the ability to protect their brand. They have no protection and no rights to their personas, and that, along with a lack of health insurance or any way to petition for change, is a bad combo

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-03-2016 05:32 PM

I don't think it's so much feed me more money, but more the principle of hard work not being rewarded. Particularly due to the fact that you need good talent to properly get guys over.

#1-norm-fan 05-03-2016 05:48 PM

Atta boy. Fuck this company.

Hanso Amore 05-03-2016 06:17 PM

Come on now. The colons should not be paid the same as the new day. Even if it's predetermined people pay to see certain acts.

Go out, do your job, and try to negotiate the best deal,for yourself. Don't like it, go somewhere else.

This isn't a new thing and ryback to want the same money as everyone else is a joke.

Ratings won't change with him gone, but his value as a performer will drop without their platform.

Corkscrewed 05-03-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4806420)
Goes on to talk about money.

...but he has a point, for the reason Dale explained.


Look at all the people in the company who clearly have a lot of talent but have been booked into losing roles, because that is what the company outlining as their job. That cycle is a way to unfairly hold down some people who have merit.

drave 05-03-2016 06:25 PM

Entertainment is "not fair". This is known long before going into WWE. This is also the problem with WWE not having any legit competition.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-03-2016 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4806447)
Come on now. The colons should not be paid the same as the new day. Even if it's predetermined people pay to see certain acts.

Go out, do your job, and try to negotiate the best deal,for yourself. Don't like it, go somewhere else.

This isn't a new thing and ryback to want the same money as everyone else is a joke.

Ratings won't change with him gone, but his value as a performer will drop without their platform.

His argument holds weight in the sense that there's such a big disparity between the 2 pays. He's just saying "You want me to work hard and get better, when getting better has me working harder, getting paid less, fuck you"

Like any profession, these guys are allowed to feel under appreciated. It's not like he's refusing to do business. He requested he be sent home and was granted said request.

Wishbone 05-03-2016 06:38 PM

This isn't even an issue of whether or not things are "fair" or if hard works doesn't pay off. Fact of the matter is Ryback was over as rover, and the dude would have been the company's next big star. His fall is 100% on WWE's stupid asses. WWE needs to get their shit together before this starts snowballing. Ryback leaving won't hurt them all that much, but it only takes one person standing up to start something big.

Bad News Gertner 05-03-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slik (Post 4806425)
Baron Corbin probably going to get The Ryback's spot. Gertner should prob start worshiping The Lone Wolf!

The Lone Wolf is not The Big Guy. Fuck Baron Corbin.

Heath Slater is my only hope.

Evil Vito 05-03-2016 07:01 PM

Ryback is 100% spot on with everything he said.

Evil Vito 05-03-2016 07:02 PM

If/when he does leave WWE I'd like to see him form a new gaijin tag team with Elgin. They would fuck people up.

Ruien 05-03-2016 07:19 PM

He has a right to be pissed. He got himself over more than anyone besides Bryan in the past 5 years on a face level. He got himself over a few times after that with the shitty ass booking. It amazes me Ryback is used in the capacity that he is. Whatever. We have Reigns so YEY! Fuckers.

#1-norm-fan 05-03-2016 07:24 PM

They pushed him with the clear intent for him to be a star and he got over like an internet darling while having all the tools Vince creams himself over. Ridiculous.

harmsway 05-03-2016 07:28 PM

This fucking guy. The irony of him taking his ball and going home after trolling people for the same thing like a 6 year old is laughable. So you aren't leaving about money,but over money? Got it. Nobody is making enough money at that company, and there are far more over people than you. How about looking in the mirror and seeing that your entrance sucks, your ring gear sucks, your catchphrase sucks, your workrate sucks. Not to mention you have injured more people than you have put over. Can you imagine why the machine doesn't want to invest in you?? I'll give him this,he has no talent but he has some big balls to write that sob story. But nw with him gone,once cm punk loses a few ufc fights the door is wide open for a cult of personality return

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-03-2016 07:30 PM

Well he hasn't taken his ball and gone home. His request was granted. He did all the business that was asked of him.

harmsway 05-03-2016 07:32 PM

Whether you give 2 weeks notice or walk oit, it's still quitting. Semantics

harmsway 05-03-2016 07:33 PM

Also I will stipulate that he didn't take his ball and leave in the sense that he never had the ball to run with

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-03-2016 07:34 PM

oh so you're not allowed to quit your job? lol

Emperor Smeat 05-03-2016 07:34 PM

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So Dave Meltzer said that Ryback had a meeting regarding a new contract (the current one is expiring in few months) with HHH or Vince. Ryback didn't like their offer, and apparently the discussion ended with Vince suggesting him going home. Unless there is a reconciliation, that's it. He is going to be paid for the rest of his contract. Dave said the CM Punk entrance and the "pre-show stopper" thing are signs that he is clearly not happy with his current situation. Meltzer said there are speculations of him going to NJPW, but they already have Michael Elgin, who has a very similar style.

Ryback was originally scheduled for Battle Royal on Raw.
From a recent Observer Radio episode about the situation.

harmsway 05-03-2016 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4806490)
oh so you're not allowed to quit your job? lol

Anyone is more than welcome to. But if you walk out in January and I make fun of you for it non stop, then I choose to quit for the same reason, I am asking to be mocked

Shisen Kopf 05-03-2016 07:37 PM

This fucking sucks. THE RYBACK was so over in 2012 but McMahon had to be a damn workrate sheep,,,,,THE RYBACK would have been huge, just listen to the crowd back then. Hopefully Vince McMahon dies soon but I'm afraid his idiot daughter and doofus son in law will be running the company so more of the same. THE RYBACK never even got an ice cream bar. Idiots.

Emperor Smeat 05-03-2016 07:38 PM

Ryback's original push basically had the same problems as Reigns in the sense the WWE rushed it way too quickly but unlike Reigns, WWE didn't have any real long term plans for him in the main event. Rushed him into the WWE title feud after panicking when Cena got hurt and once Cena came back, quickly tossed him to the side. Him losing at Mania against Henry was really dumb and so was just being fed to Cena after Mania.

Shisen Kopf 05-03-2016 07:41 PM

At least THE RYBACK was over. No one likes Reigns

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-03-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by harmsway (Post 4806493)
Anyone is more than welcome to. But if you walk out in January and I make fun of you for it non stop, then I choose to quit for the same reason, I am asking to be mocked

CM Punk also went out of his way to bury Ryback. And once again, Vince discussed it with him and they amicably decided to let Ryback go home until the business between them is sorted out.

Stickman 05-03-2016 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by harmsway (Post 4806486)
This fucking guy. The irony of him taking his ball and going home after trolling people for the same thing like a 6 year old is laughable. So you aren't leaving about money,but over money? Got it. Nobody is making enough money at that company, and there are far more over people than you. How about looking in the mirror and seeing that your entrance sucks, your ring gear sucks, your catchphrase sucks, your workrate sucks. Not to mention you have injured more people than you have put over. Can you imagine why the machine doesn't want to invest in you?? I'll give him this,he has no talent but he has some big balls to write that sob story. But nw with him gone,once cm punk loses a few ufc fights the door is wide open for a cult of personality return

Agreed. He also talks about working hard...well who the fuck doesnt work hard in the wwe. Ziggler and zach ryder are way better than this douche and I am sure they work super hard. You don't see them complaining about their role. This meathead needs to know his role and shut his mouth.

Shisen Kopf 05-03-2016 07:46 PM

THE RYBACK should go join CHW and beat the ever loving piss out of Nikky Chance.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-03-2016 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 4806503)
Agreed. He also talks about working hard...well who the fuck doesnt work hard in the wwe. Ziggler and zach ryder are way better than this douche and I am sure they work super hard. You don't see them complaining about their role. This meathead needs to know his role and shut his mouth.


He is kind of speaking on behalf of those 2 is he not? He's not saying he's the only guy who goes out there and works hard. He's saying he's pissed off about being jobbed out, working hard to get better, and not seeing the fruits of his labour. Heaven forbid SOMEONE takes pride in what they are doing out there.

At the end of the day I think Ryback is a take him or leave him talent, and personally I can leave him. But the guy is allowed to express himself and back himself as a performer. It's pretty clear that he's never politicked or refused to job to anyone, so let the guy have his say.

Ruien 05-03-2016 07:52 PM

Dale is preaching the truth in this thread. Also, lol at looking at him poorly because he was told to go home and he did that. How dare someone stand up for what they think they are worth.

Ruien 05-03-2016 07:53 PM

I went to give my 2 week notice and my job told me I was not allowed to quit. Being treated like a slave and loving it.

Shisen Kopf 05-03-2016 07:53 PM

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Shisen Kopf 05-03-2016 07:54 PM

THE RYBACK was awesome and totally rad. People who didn't like him are workrate retards.

Lock Jaw 05-03-2016 07:54 PM

Think Ryback is better than Roman Reigns in the ring, on the mic, and in "intangible charisma".... Pretty baffled at why he was never a main event star.


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