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RP 10-04-2016 08:17 AM

Sasha and Charlotte are making the type of history we'll all look back on and say whoa
 
I need more matches from them. I dont want either one of these girls to get hurt, but watching both of them nearly kill themselves to sell out for the womens division is inspiring. I'm still stunned that as little as Sasha is, she ran over and somewhat caught Charlotte from killing herself on a corkscrew lol. These two chicks are not playing. They are showing up the men's roster right now. Every match they have is coming off fresh as fuck.

Whats the next step...

Let's break the stigma that two woman cant headline a Hell in the Cell. It's time. If ever there were two. These are the two. I'm not advocating having Charlotte or Sasha spot jumping from the top of the Cell, though i dont put it past either to do so. I'm just saying. Lets continue breaking barriers here. I am highly entertained. I want to see everything these woman do. And last night's main event was fantastic just like i thought it would be.

RP 10-04-2016 08:19 AM

Also, when Sasha first broke in to the main roster, I had no clue she would be this balls out tough. I havent watched any NXT.

I'm actually going to Wal-mart now and picking up the NXT dvd. And i got the WWE network, partly because i'm hoping there is a decent history of NXT shows.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 08:23 AM

Should go back and watch some of the nxt takeover stuff.

Both Sasha vs Bayley matches
Charlotte vs Natalya
Sasha vs Becky

Sasha vs Becky, from a purely technical standpoint, is the best womens match in the company's history imo. It just doesn't get the same amount of love as the others because it didn't have a very good build up or story going in, so it didn't have as much emotion as the others.

Ruien 10-04-2016 08:24 AM

Does everyone just ignore the amount of botches they have per match?

RP 10-04-2016 08:24 AM

Fignuts, I havent been this engaged in wrestling in years. From the start of 2016 i've been locked in and these two woman are changing my mind about woman wrestling right now. Am I the only one here? Am i wrong?

RP 10-04-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4869104)
Does everyone just ignore the amount of botches they have per match?

No i dont ignore it Ruien. But i take into account the fact that they are even trying some of the shit they are trying right now. I've never seen it before from any womens division. And then the fact that they may fuck up, but still go on. Like Sasha at Wrestlemania... I thought she was crippled lol. But she was tough as balls and finished the match and did more spots lol. It's amazing. I love it.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 08:29 AM

Nah dude, lots of appreciation on here for the women.

Also, as great as the women are doing here, they still don't hold a candle to late 80's-late 90's women's wrestling in Japan. If you don't mind watching japanese stuff, go check some of that shit out on youtube, but I get that not everyone can get into it.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 4869108)
No i dont ignore it Ruien. But i take into account the fact that they are even trying some of the shit they are trying right now. I've never seen it before from any womens division. And then the fact that they may fuck up, but still go on. Like Sasha at Wrestlemania... I thought she was crippled lol. But she was tough as balls and finished the match and did more spots lol. It's amazing. I love it.

Mad respect to her, but I feel like she is going to be paralyzed within a few years if she keeps going this hard. I mean fuck, I don't even recall Bryan taking this many risks. It's scary.

RP 10-04-2016 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4869113)
Mad respect to her, but I feel like she is going to be paralyzed within a few years if she keeps going this hard. I mean fuck, I don't even recall Bryan taking this many risks. It's scary.

Ya i agree, but i hate to say this.. I dont want her to stop.

RP 10-04-2016 08:49 AM

Sasha is beyond Jeff Hardy nuts and toeing the line of Mankind vs Undertaker HITC nuts. Like sure, Jeff Hardy can jump 30 feet crashing down and give his body up. Cool. But Sasha getting dropped on her neck a couple times and then saying fuck it lets do more is pretty fucking nuts. She really could have been hurt catching Charlotte on RAW last night. And Charlotte could have been hurt not getting caught. And yet Sasha show more sack then any dude on the fucking roster and stepped in and caught her.

In fact. The person who looks the worst right now is The Miz, because of that R-Truth incident. Dude could take some lessons from Sasha Banks right now.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 08:54 AM

Jeff Hardy had all those tables to break those falls too. Sasha consistently greets the hard floor by folding her spine on it

RP 10-04-2016 08:55 AM

LOL i know. Its sick. I guess my overall point is these chicks are just selling out there bodies to put the womans division on the map and its amazing.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:00 AM

I think Naomi is insanely underrated as well. Feel like if they actually gave her more than 2 minutes in the ring, she could have great matches with becky, natalya, etc.

She's got natural charisma, super athletic, and has really upped her in -ring work in the last couple years. Lots of fun moves and counters from her.

Also, dat entrance

RP 10-04-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4869101)
Should go back and watch some of the nxt takeover stuff.

Both Sasha vs Bayley matches
Charlotte vs Natalya
Sasha vs Becky

Sasha vs Becky, from a purely technical standpoint, is the best womens match in the company's history imo. It just doesn't get the same amount of love as the others because it didn't have a very good build up or story going in, so it didn't have as much emotion as the others.

I just recently got WWE Network. I'm watching NXT for as far as it goes back which appears to be November 4, 2015 ( unless i'm doing something wrong which i hope i am cause i wish it went further back ). First match is Asuka vs a somewhat talented black chick ( have not caught her name ). This Asuka chick looks amazing though.

RP 10-04-2016 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4869125)
I think Naomi is insanely underrated as well. Feel like if they actually gave her more than 2 minutes in the ring, she could have great matches with becky, natalya, etc.

She's got natural charisma, super athletic, and has really upped her in -ring work in the last couple years. Lots of fun moves and counters from her.

Also, dat entrance

I love Naomi's entrance. I totally agree. I really think the woman need there own show at this point.

RP 10-04-2016 09:04 AM

Black chicks name is cameron?

RP 10-04-2016 09:05 AM

Asuka kinda hot too

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 4869127)
I just recently got WWE Network. I'm watching NXT for as far as it goes back which appears to be November 4, 2015 ( unless i'm doing something wrong which i hope i am cause i wish it went further back ). First match is Asuka vs a somewhat talented black chick ( have not caught her name ). This Asuka chick looks amazing though.

Right above the videos is a button to select year. You can go back back to February 6th 2014. Kinda sucks that they don't have more, as it's missing Seth Rollins' run, tne Cesaro Zayn 2/3 falls match, tne Regal vs Ohno feud. All the big Takeover events are still there tho, starting with NXT arrival.

Now that I think of it, I'd bet money they took all the early stuff off the network, just to boost sales of the nxt dvd.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 4869129)
Black chicks name is cameron?

She got released a while back. Not a loss at all. She was on a season of nxt when it was the new tough enough show and she was pinning someone who was lying on their stomach, yelling at the ref to make the count. Never got much better.

RP 10-04-2016 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4869142)
Right above the videos is a button to select year. You can go back back to February 6th 2014. Kinda sucks that they don't have more, as it's missing Seth Rollins' run, tne Cesaro Zayn 2/3 falls match, tne Regal vs Ohno feud. All the big Takeover events are still there tho, starting with NXT arrival.

Now that I think of it, I'd bet money they took all the early stuff off the network, just to boost sales of the nxt dvd.

Holy fuck bro thanks. I hope its like that with everything on this network cause i was getting dissapointed for a minute.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:32 AM

lol yeah it is.

Don't worry, they have every ppv ever from wwe, wcw, and ecw. Plus if you go to Shows-The Vault, they have stuff from AWA, WCCW, and full episodes of Nitro, ECW and old WWF programs like Primetime Wrestling with Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon.

When this shit first came out, I couldn't fucking believe the amount of content available. That's why I really hope WWE ends up buyingTNA. Booking and storylines may have been garbage, but there are hundreds of great tna matches that I would love to have on the network.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:38 AM

Probably haven't seen her yet, but Ember Moon debuted recently and has probably tje sickest finisher in the company, male or female.

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RP 10-04-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4869146)
lol yeah it is.

Don't worry, they have every ppv ever from wwe, wcw, and ecw. Plus if you go to Shows-The Vault, they have stuff from AWA, WCCW, and full episodes of Nitro, ECW and old WWF programs like Primetime Wrestling with Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon.

When this shit first came out, I couldn't fucking believe the amount of content available. That's why I really hope WWE ends up buyingTNA. Booking and storylines may have been garbage, but there are hundreds of great tna matches that I would love to have on the network.


Ok, but do they have the very first 3 Survivor Series PPV's?

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:47 AM

Every single ppv dating back to Wrestlemania 1. WCW goes even further back, to the first Starrcade in 1983.

Fignuts 10-04-2016 09:49 AM

When I say they have every single ppv on there, I don't mean they have select shows from each type of ppv. I mean they literally have every single ppv ever from the big 3.

Arrogance 10-04-2016 10:09 AM

Asuka and Ember Moon will tear it up when they come up. I have a feeling they'll both be big, especially Ember.

Simple Fan 10-04-2016 11:05 AM

I'm not real big on the women wrestling and I don't like that they have give the title to Sasha on Raw twice. Sucky Raw that was main evented by a women's match. Seriously there were only 3 real matches the whole night and two were silly purple cruiserweight matches. Good for them getting to main event a Raw though I guess. Just don't see the reasoning in having Sasha win on TV again. Now Charlotte will win it back and this feud will continue until Wrestlemania because no other woman on Raw van touch either of Charlotte or Sasha. Bayley has been horrible in my opinion and her and Dana are about on the same level. Now Jax could be something if they would let her but that's another problem I have with Raw is the over abundance of squash matches.

Lock Jaw 10-04-2016 12:40 PM

On the network, I don't know if they still have it, but they used to have "collections"..... and they had a "four horsewomen" collection...... you should check that one out.....

Mr. Nerfect 10-04-2016 04:34 PM

I'm losing my boner for women's wrestling. Not a sexual boner -- I mean a mental one. *cough*

Very few of the girls can actually work. You see it when they are deers in the headlights if a spot gets blown. In NXT, they appeared less, were booked better and had time to put their matches together. On RAW and SmackDown it's just the same muddle. I also think it burst my bubble when I saw people commenting on how "good" Alexa Bliss is. She's hot and can act like a bitch. In the ring, she forgets to fall down on time and can't walk and talk at the same time because she to think about how she's walking. And hey, that's not her fault -- she's still very green -- but this idea of a "Women's Revolution" is no different from when they had the Women's Title/Divas Title split. How is Charlotte/Sasha that much different from Victoria/Molly Holly from just over a decade ago?

The characters have been flat as fuck since arriving on the main roster, although I do like Becky, Charlotte and Emmalina. Everyone else turns face or heel on a moment's notice and is all-smiles as a babyface or pouty as a heel.

I'm glad that the women are getting time, don't get me wrong, but this "Revolution" is tokenism. The division is still about hot girls flopping around (see: Bliss, Alexa; Carmella) and the booking is still awful.

Mr. Nerfect 10-04-2016 04:51 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Naomi is horrendous? She's athletic, but absolutely nothing else about her remotely indicates that she's put any of it together.

DAMN iNATOR 10-04-2016 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4869284)
Am I the only one who thinks Naomi is horrendous? She's athletic, but absolutely nothing else about her remotely indicates that she's put any of it together.

No, you're not, and I really don't get the love for her entrance, either. It's the same old terrible theme just slowed way the fuck down (which, IMHO makes it 1000× more awful), and they've got her dressing in attire that makes her look like a glow stick.

I'm not hating on her athletic ability; she can obviously go, but her gimmick right now is not doing her any favors if you ask me.

Lock Jaw 10-04-2016 06:08 PM

Noid and DAMN iNATOR ain't feeling the glow. :nono:

Ruien 10-04-2016 06:53 PM

Women wrestling is as boring as ever. Internet fans think it's cool since it started in NXT though.

Emperor Smeat 10-04-2016 07:34 PM

Even though Sasha vs Charlotte has been the WWE's biggest women's feud in a while, still don't think its at the point where the Cell is needed storywise. Too bad TLC is a Smackdown ppv since that type of match would fit a lot better for the feud at the moment.

Mr. Nerfect 10-04-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4869339)
Noid and DAMN iNATOR ain't feeling the glow. :nono:

I just think of her as clunky. Maybe it's my fault, because she hasn't REALLY been given much of a chance. I fucking hate those kicks she does though.

Mr. Nerfect 10-04-2016 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4869366)
Even though Sasha vs Charlotte has been the WWE's biggest women's feud in a while, still don't think its at the point where the Cell is needed storywise. Too bad TLC is a Smackdown ppv since that type of match would fit a lot better for the feud at the moment.

I have wanted to see a Ladder Match for the right two women for a long time, but I worry that Sasha would kill herself in one.

DAMN iNATOR 10-06-2016 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4869367)
I just think of her as clunky. Maybe it's my fault, because she hasn't REALLY been given much of a chance. I fucking hate those kicks she does though.

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Originally Posted by Michael Cole
She calls it the Rear View!

Seriously, how am I supposed to believe a woman can hit her opponent so hard with her ass that it essentially knocks them out for 3 seconds? It's more ridiculous than that open handed slap Mark Jindrak used to use for a finisher.

Anybody Thrilla 10-06-2016 12:42 AM

Not sure what some of you are talking about, but I agree with RP. Charlotte and Sasha on Monday was a fucking banger of a match. I watched it with a girl who is just a casual fan, and she was marking the fuck out. Legends in the making. Especially Charlotte.

Mr. Nerfect 10-06-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4870416)
Not sure what some of you are talking about, but I agree with RP. Charlotte and Sasha on Monday was a fucking banger of a match. I watched it with a girl who is just a casual fan, and she was marking the fuck out. Legends in the making. Especially Charlotte.

Naomi uses her ass as a finishing move.

Frank Drebin 10-06-2016 04:04 PM

The match was fn great. I have no idea where the sudden bitching is coming from. Also, lol at noid for listing Emmalina as someone he likes - a character that hasn't even debuted.


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