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dingdongyo 10-12-2016 10:53 PM

Would you like to see Cena break Flair's 16x world champion record?
 
Felt like a poll.

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2016 11:14 PM

It's all so convoluted with the fifty five versions of "world" titles and the 19 PPVs a year that breaking the record now doesn't really mean dick. I mean, Rollins is already a two time champ, ya know?

Nicky Fives 10-12-2016 11:38 PM

My opinion does not matter as it seems like an inevitability that the record gets broken.

Lock Jaw 10-13-2016 12:51 AM

Think it is inevitable to be broken as title wins become more and more meaningless.... how many times does Reigns have it already.......... so sure, why not have Cena do it.....

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-13-2016 01:32 AM

Stay at 15 forrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeverrrrrrrrr.

DaveWadding 10-13-2016 01:56 AM

I would like Cena to stay at 15 until he apologizes for his shirt that denigrates STD's Irish ancestors.

Rammsteinmad 10-13-2016 05:49 AM

To be fair, some of Flair's reigns were pretty forgettable too.

But yeah, title wins happen all the time, it's gotta happen eventually. Cena more than deserves the honor.

Bad News Gertner 10-13-2016 08:03 AM

I don't know why people care so much about this

Big Vic 10-13-2016 08:18 AM

Should stay at 15, a few of his title wins happened when he won the secondary championship when there were 2 world titles.

Ruien 10-13-2016 08:22 AM

Want hin to break it badly. He carried the company through a terrible era and now that he is fading away you can see the ratings bombing hard. He may very well be the last mega superstar if WWE continues on their current path.

Plus, it will sell a ton of dvds so I think it will happen.

XL 10-13-2016 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4873607)
Should stay at 15, a few of his title wins happened when he won the secondary championship when there were 2 world titles.

And most of Flair's happened in WCW when thet were a distant second brand.

Evil Vito 10-13-2016 08:40 AM

It's irrelevant at this point. It's obviously going to happen.

Big Vic 10-13-2016 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4873612)
And most of Flair's happened in WCW when thet were a distant second brand.

So? WCW still only had one world title.

XL 10-13-2016 10:58 AM

How many of Cena's reigns came when both belts were active on one show?

Frank Drebin 10-13-2016 11:20 AM

It's a booked accomplishment. I don't care as long as the product I'm watching is entertaining.

Agree with Gertner.

Anybody Thrilla 10-13-2016 11:29 AM

"Vince McMahon's imaginary brass rings"

Big Vic 10-13-2016 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4873638)
How many of Cena's reigns came when both belts were active on one show?

At least 2 times.

The CyNick 10-13-2016 11:57 AM

He should tie and pass it. He's the man. Records are made to be broken.

Simple Fan 10-13-2016 12:34 PM

Yeah I'd like to see it. Its going to happen so why not. He should tie it but I think they should wait until Wrestlemania. Have him hold it for a bit, drop it, and then win it back at Summerslam to break the record. I think the best option would be to let Styles keep the title and Cena win the Rumble to set that match up for Maina.

Destor 10-13-2016 01:09 PM

No

The CyNick 10-13-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4873666)
Yeah I'd like to see it. Its going to happen so why not. He should tie it but I think they should wait until Wrestlemania. Have him hold it for a bit, drop it, and then win it back at Summerslam to break the record. I think the best option would be to let Styles keep the title and Cena win the Rumble to set that match up for Maina.

Both ideally would happen at Mania. I would say more important to break the record at the big show if you don't want him to wait a year between title wins.

Black Widow 10-13-2016 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4873602)
I don't know why people care so much about this

Cause it's another attempt to try and convince us he's in Hogan's,Flair's and others league.

Big Vic 10-13-2016 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4873602)
I don't know why people care so much about this

Same reason people care about Ellsworth getting a win.

The CyNick 10-13-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 4873700)
Cause it's another attempt to try and convince us he's in Hogan's,Flair's and others league.

I think he's generated more revenue than both of those guys combined.

Destor 10-13-2016 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4873725)
I think he's generated more revenue than both of those guys combined.

lol

Emperor Smeat 10-13-2016 04:46 PM

Rather not although its probably inevitable considering the new brand split era and the WWE still not being able to move on from his era.

At this point, he doesn't really need to tie or break the record since his career is already legendary enough without it. Same for when there were talks about him being the one to break Taker's streak.

Anybody Thrilla 10-13-2016 05:54 PM

Cena breaking the streak would have made more sense than Lesnar if it was something that just HAD to be done.

Black Widow 10-13-2016 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4873725)
I think he's generated more revenue than both of those guys combined.

Yeah Sure whatever.

Hogan made wrestling huge twice and since Cena has been around it keeps getting less popular.

Emperor Smeat 10-13-2016 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4873754)
Cena breaking the streak would have made more sense than Lesnar if it was something that just HAD to be done.

Knowing the WWE, they probably would still have found a way to mess up giving the rub from beating Cena like they did with Lesnar. Taker should never have been the first guy to beat Lesnar clean after the streak was killed.

dingdongyo 10-13-2016 06:43 PM

I'm the only "probably" so far. That being said... I don't think Cena wants to break the title record. I think he wants to be remembered just as someone who gave more to wrestling than he took from it... which is exactly why I think he should be the one to whom you compare the next mega-champion.

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2016 05:22 AM

I'm with Gertner and Frank Drebin on this. I really don't care about this. If he's the right guy to carry the belt, then let him carry the belt. If he's not, then don't. Styles is doing well right now, so I wouldn't take it off him just to increase Cena's number. But I wouldn't keep Cena away from the belt just to protect an old record either.

I care more that there is a second belt in one company.

The CyNick 10-14-2016 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 4873766)
Yeah Sure whatever.

Hogan made wrestling huge twice and since Cena has been around it keeps getting less popular.

Vince made the business popular. Hogan was just his puppet he chose to put out there to the masses.

More people view WWE content today than in any point in their history. I don't think that's BECAUSE of Cena, I give all glory to Vince, but your "facts" are just not based in reality.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-14-2016 10:12 AM

BAH GAWD THE PRODIGAL SON RETURNS

Damian Rey 2.0 10-14-2016 10:52 AM

CyNick, legit question. Surely you don't don't think Vince could've plucked anyone and made them the man in the 80s?

You don't think it was a combo of Vince having the foresight and vision to see Hogan and his company thriving while Hogan had the charisma and talent to take the ball and run?

You don't think it was a joint success?

Damian Rey 2.0 10-14-2016 10:55 AM

As for Cena, who cares? To me, winning a bunch of times doesn't hold any value. He wrestled in an era much different than Flair where title wins are more common. As long as he's entertaining, which I think he is at his peak of being right now, that's all that matters. Just give me my money's worth and I don't care about how many titles you win.

Exyle 10-14-2016 01:10 PM

I'd like to answer this question, but unfortunately I can't see John Cena at all.

Destor 10-14-2016 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4874081)
Vince made the business popular. Hogan was just his puppet he chose to put out there to the masses.

More people view WWE content today than in any point in their history. I don't think that's BECAUSE of Cena, I give all glory to Vince, but your "facts" are just not based in reality.

Present some numbers or GTFO. Revenue is not higher today (with respect to inflation) than it ever has been nor is viewership at record highs.

The CyNick 10-14-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4874087)
CyNick, legit question. Surely you don't don't think Vince could've plucked anyone and made them the man in the 80s?

You don't think it was a combo of Vince having the foresight and vision to see Hogan and his company thriving while Hogan had the charisma and talent to take the ball and run?

You don't think it was a joint success?

Hundo P

But I think Vince was the more important part of the equation. No way to prove this, but I believe Vince would have had more success without Hogan than Hogan would have without Vince.

But of course, the unique set of skills they each brought to the table resulted in magic.

The CyNick 10-14-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4874131)
Present some numbers or GTFO. Revenue is not higher today (with respect to inflation) than it ever has been nor is viewership at record highs.

Look at social media views (You Tube, FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc). More people worldwide are exposed to WWE programming than any other time in history. People who think the WWE is less popular are going by Neilsen television measures from ONE country, which are outdated and don't reflect how people consume entertainment in 2016.

As for revenue, do you knew what WWEs revenue was in 1987?

The CyNick 10-14-2016 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4874082)
BAH GAWD THE PRODIGAL SON RETURNS

I promise to never leave again. This is my home, and no matter how popular I become, I will be here forever.

Just responding to this post gives me goosebumps.


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