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Anybody Thrilla 09-21-2017 02:10 PM

REHASHING AN OLD ARGUMENT: Who would you rather have on your roster right now?
 
John Morrison or The Miz?

I'm sure we all remember how we used to feel about this, but how do we feel now?

I'm kinda on the fence, but leaning Miz.

GD 09-21-2017 02:20 PM

The Miz. He was destined to fail from the beginning but he persisted and became the WWE Champion, main-evented Wrestlemania and pinned John Cena. Over the years, he has managed to keep himself relevant and become one of the most prominent Intercontinental Champions of this decade.

TSI 09-21-2017 02:23 PM

The Miz. That man is pro. He gets today's wrestling completely.

Swiss Ultimate 09-21-2017 02:43 PM

STILL LOVE MIZ.

Cool King 09-21-2017 02:52 PM

The Miz.

Always The Miz.

Anybody Thrilla 09-21-2017 02:52 PM

I actually always liked The Miz and I still do, but back when The In Crowd was a team (one of my favorite teams ever), I thought for sure Morrison would be the Michaels to Miz's Jannetty.

Big Vic 09-21-2017 02:54 PM

Thought so too until after the split.

Anybody Thrilla 09-21-2017 03:01 PM

I do enjoy Morrison in the ring quite a bit, still. The Johnny Mundo Lucha Underground run was tight as fuck.

Fignuts 09-21-2017 03:32 PM

Miz is one of the best heels in the business today. Morrison can do some cool athletic stuff.

Not even a contest, tbh.

Emperor Smeat 09-21-2017 03:34 PM

Miz.

Morrison in Lucha Underground is pretty similar to the Miz in terms of being the guy everyone hates regardless who is his opponent but lacking in great mic skills.

Maluco 09-21-2017 03:52 PM

It's a hard one. My instinct says The Miz. A great promo, solid worker, could easily be top heel in any wrestler company. Seems like a no brainer.

But Morrison is insanely skilled as an athlete...and he is marketable. He is a good looking guy and looks like a rock star. He has also developed a lot more personality since leaving, judging by his film roles and him branching out a bit.

For a new company, you could easily be talking about a top heel and a top face if you had both.

Forced to choose, I would pick Miz because wrestling is a talking business and he sold me on him and Cena wrestling with their wives at Mania.

Bad News Gertner 09-21-2017 05:16 PM

Miz is probably the best true heel the company has had in a decade

Destor 09-21-2017 06:40 PM

His matches are an absolute bore but there's a lot of mileage in his story telling on the mic. Woulda made a great manager

XL 09-21-2017 06:50 PM

Miz.

Good heel, great promo, fantastic media/brand ambassador, room to extend career in a managerial/commentator role, and you get the added bonus of Mayrse.

Lock Jaw 09-21-2017 07:01 PM

Miz easily.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-21-2017 07:53 PM

Hardcore Parkour

The Miz now, then, always.

Blonde Moment 09-21-2017 10:17 PM

The Miz is the total package

DaveWadding 09-21-2017 11:09 PM

The Miz bores me. Mundo / Morrison for sure.

Sepholio 09-22-2017 01:00 AM

Morrison. Always really liked him/really hated Miz.

Really I just want him for the cool slow-mo shot with his hair blowing in the wind.

Anybody Thrilla 09-22-2017 05:50 AM

Question for the Miz voters...did you always feel that way?

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2017 05:56 AM

This is tricky. The argument is still basically the same as it was way back when. Morrison is far, far, far better in the ring, has a better look, and has the better overall potential. The Miz is a better talker and gets being a heel, but has a ceiling. I'd take both. As a tag team or a mid-card title program they would both be welcome. I want to go Morrison, because I think him at maximum potential is worth a whole bunch more, but The Miz can be used to springboard a lot of people.

Fuck it, I guess it's Miz. But I'd take Morrison over a lot of the current guys WWE is pushing.

Anybody Thrilla 09-22-2017 05:59 AM

Would you take Morrison over Strowman? Not to derail, just thinking out loud.

Bad News Gertner 09-22-2017 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5017671)
Question for the Miz voters...did you always feel that way?

Yes because Morrison can't cut promos and that means more to me than in ring ability

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2017 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5017681)
Would you take Morrison over Strowman? Not to derail, just thinking out loud.

This is another tough one. I'm not sold on Strowman like others are. I think a bit of decent booking earlier on has gotten people on the dick of the guy, and I'm not sure he's got the longevity as an interest-getter that people think he is. That being said, he is working at the moment. Ratings even seem to respond, in a mild way, to the guy. There's some sort of ironic goofiness in his presentation. There are ways to make him work as a character, even though he does very little for me.

Morrison looks like a star. He can wrestle a lot better. You can probably get more out of optimum use of him than you can Strowman. I dunno. I'd probably try and milk Strowman right now for what I could and then hope that Morrison can carry things on a certain level when that dies off.

Bad News Gertner 09-22-2017 07:38 AM

People forget that Strowman has really only been wrestling for 2 years, which is insane. Give him another couple of years.

Sixx 09-22-2017 07:46 AM

What's the deal with Strowman wearing a goat head? Did they even explain that? Or was this just "Look at me, I'm weeeeeird!"?

Sixx 09-22-2017 07:48 AM

http://data1.ibtimes.co.in/en/full/6...rowman-wwe.jpg

Wow, he's actually pretty ripped. Thought this was all fat.

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2017 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5017715)
What's the deal with Strowman wearing a goat head? Did they even explain that? Or was this just "Look at me, I'm weeeeeird!"?

He was a Wyatt. Wyatt's followers wore sheep masks to represent the common people being sheep.

... #MeltzerSheep

Sixx 09-22-2017 07:51 AM

Oh, well. Kinda dumb.

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2017 07:54 AM

Was kinda cool/creepy looking when a bunch of kids dressed in black gowns surrounded the ring wearing sheep masks when he was feuding with Cena though.

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2017 07:54 AM

I wonder where all those kids are now in kayfabe.

Sixx 09-22-2017 07:59 AM

Bray's bedroom?

GD 09-22-2017 12:44 PM

It's a social commentary on the Catholic Church.

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5017712)
People forget that Strowman has really only been wrestling for 2 years, which is insane. Give him another couple of years.

Closer to 3, but a good point. He could get a lot better, but things could also go really wrong too.

Fignuts 09-22-2017 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5017671)
Question for the Miz voters...did you always feel that way?

Yes, but not to the degree I do today. Miz has always been a natural heel, but he's really come into it in recent years.

Also, I believe he's not that far behind Morrison in in ring ability. He can't do the cool parkour shit, but he's gotten very good at telling a story in his matches, which is more important to me than high spots.

Anybody Thrilla 09-22-2017 02:10 PM

Those Ziggler matches were really good.

Fignuts 09-22-2017 02:11 PM

I would actually be willing to say that Miz is the best heel in the business today, with the exception of Minoru Suzuki.

DaveWadding 09-22-2017 05:43 PM

I'm just wondering if any of the people saying Morrison can't cut a promo have actually seen his work in the last couple years. He's probably the best promo in Lucha Underground and has been for at least the whole 3rd season.

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2017 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5017858)
I would actually be willing to say that Miz is the best heel in the business today, with the exception of Minoru Suzuki.

"Roman Reigns is the best heel in the business" - Some smartass

Lock Jaw 09-22-2017 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5017946)
"Roman Reigns is the best heel in the business" - Destor



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