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The Show Off 06-01-2004 02:48 AM

Reverse Ladder Match?
 
FOR THE NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
"KING OF THE MOUNTAIN" LADDER MATCH
Champion Ron "The Truth" Killings vs. AJ Styles vs. Jeff Jarrett vs. Raven vs. "Wildcat" Chris Harris

In another TNA first, a "King Of The Mountain" World Title match will take place this Wednesday night as The Truth defends his newly won gold against four of TNA's top superstars! The rules can best be described as a "reverse ladder match". When a superstar scores a pin, he is given the World Title while his opponent goes to the Penalty Box. The superstar then has two minutes to get the World Title UP the ladder to hang it before the Penalty Box is reopened! The match continues until one man has hung the gold to walk out the champion!

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I got that from TNA, now I don't watch TNA all that much, I mainly read about it every once in a while, and reading this had intrigued me... Now, this match seems innovative and all but is it just too silly? Does it seem like they're going out of there way to come up with an inovative concept. All I know is they have five good athletes in there that will make this match pretty good. It sounds like a cool concept. I'm sure there will be a lot of people getting nailed with the title belt in this one. Also it looks like a way for TNA to give Jarrett back the title, wich I think most of you will dislike.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 02:53 AM

That just sounds stupid.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 02:53 AM

Not innovative... just stupid.

John la Rock 06-01-2004 02:58 AM

:lol: at the idea

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 03:02 AM

Oh and it's shitty booking/general ideas like this that are the reasons TNA won't compete with WWE. (I wish they could, don't get me wrong. I just know it won't happen with crap like this.)

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:14 AM

Yes, because it takes two minutes to climb a ladder.

Corkscrewed 06-01-2004 03:17 AM

O...K.... why don't they throw in Canadian Rules while they're at it. :shifty:


(reference Lance Storm in WCW... Regal did the same sort of thing against Jericho I think too)

Shaggy 06-01-2004 03:18 AM

sounds pretty crappy. To pull a good version of that match off would take a stroke of genious.

c4g2 06-01-2004 03:23 AM

:| at the idea.

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:24 AM

After rereading it, it doesn't sound as horrible. Ignoring the fact that they're putting the belt up instead of taking it down, what you basically have is a 5 man ladder match where pinfalls eliminate you for 2 minutes. It could actually be decent.

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:24 AM

How about this idea! A match where the winner is the one who can hold THEIR OPPONENT on top of THEM for a three count!

Or how about a reverse cage match where the only way to win is to throw YOUR OPPONENT over the top of the cage, to the floor.

And a reverse inferno match where you have to prevent YOUR OPPONENT from lighting themself on fire!

BRILLIANT!

:shifty:

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy
sounds pretty crappy. To pull a good version of that match off would take a stroke of genious.

Genious couldn't save this match. It's going to need pure and uncanny luck.

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:25 AM

But seriously, that sounds like a match I would have made when I was 9 years old whilst playing with my wrestling figures.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 03:29 AM

Actually, it really sounds like a match Vince Russo would have made when he was tripping on acid.

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:29 AM

Reverse First Blood match? You have to stop your opponent from making himself bleed.

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k
Actually, it really sounds like a match Vince Russo would have made when he was tripping on acid.

A.K.A. a match I would have made when I was 9 years old whilst playing with my wrestling figures.

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:31 AM

How about a reverse I Quit match where you have to keep putting your hand over your opponent's mouth to prevent him from saying "I Quit."

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:33 AM

Or a reverse Bra and Panties match where you have to dress your opponent whilst they kick and scream like a baby.

DaveWadding 06-01-2004 03:36 AM

I thought that they would start ON TOP of the ladder and try to knock the other guy down :(

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:36 AM

How about a reverse Battle Royale... Everyone's on the outside, trying to throw their opponent into the ring.

Kane Knight 06-01-2004 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
Yes, because it takes two minutes to climb a ladder.

Well, there are still 3 other people, no?

Killings and four other people, the person pinned goes to the penalty box?

Shaggy 06-01-2004 03:37 AM

How about a reverse cage match where you had to climb into the cage to win it.....

or.....

How about a reverse tables match where you are given a broken table and you have to put it back together before your opponent.

Kane Knight 06-01-2004 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
How about a reverse Battle Royale... Everyone's on the outside, trying to throw their opponent into the ring.

Or a reverse Hell in a cell? You start out on top of the cage, try and work your way into the ring, powerbombing your way up through the ceiling back to the outside?

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
I thought that they would start ON TOP of the ladder and try to knock the other guy down :(

I was thinking the same thing. Like... there would have been a little ramp or something connecting two ladders and the match goes on up there like a scaffold match, only much wider. Then whoever gets control of the title and climbs down with it wins.

But then, if the title accidently falls, you're screwed.

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Well, there are still 3 other people, no?

Killings and four other people, the person pinned goes to the penalty box?

I misread it originally. I didn't see the participants, only the match. I thought it was only two people, which seemed fucking dolt like.

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy
How about a reverse tables match where you are given a broken table and you have to put it back together before your opponent.

I saw that on "The New Yankee Workshop" once.

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:41 AM

How about a reverse Judy Bagwell on a pole match?

Reverse Buried Alive match. They start off buried next to each other, first one out wins.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
A.K.A. a match I would have made when I was 9 years old whilst playing with my wrestling figures.

:p

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Or a reverse Hell in a cell? You start out on top of the cage, try and work your way into the ring, powerbombing your way up through the ceiling back to the outside?

Vince: "We're gonna need an anti-gravity machine or some upside-down cameras. Stat."

Kane Knight 06-01-2004 03:43 AM

I think it is innovative.

Innovation isn't always a good thing. This doesn't really excite me or make me want to see the match.

I'm trying to decide what's worse...NWA coming up with new flops or the WWE rehashing the old ones...

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I think it is innovative.

Innovation isn't always a good thing. This doesn't really excite me or make me want to see the match.

I'm trying to decide what's worse...NWA coming up with new flops or the WWE rehashing the old ones...

Meh, I'd put my life savings on "A little from column A, a little from column B"

c4g2 06-01-2004 03:45 AM

Ah a reverse Falls Count Anywhere match, which means... a Falls Count Nowhere match. :shifty:

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:46 AM

Yeah, I think it might be entertaining just because it's something different but it should probably be a one time thing.

That being said, I'm pissed that they aren't showing this on the TV debut.

Kane Knight 06-01-2004 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
How about a reverse Judy Bagwell on a pole match?

Reverse Buried Alive match. They start off buried next to each other, first one out wins.

In this grave, weighing in at 30 pounds and lighter by theminute...Katie Vick...

And her opponent, weight in at 150 pounds and still ripe, Al Wilson...

HeartBreakMan2k 06-01-2004 03:47 AM

It's an interesting concept, I can't deny that. Problem is, interesting doesn't always mean good.

Hell the idea of Kane taking his mask off was interesting... guess what, turned out to be a bad thing.

The idea of Vince Russo working for WCW was interesting... turned out to be a bad thing.

The idea of Jerry Lynn going to WWE was interesting... turned out to be carear suicide.

#1-norm-fan 06-01-2004 03:47 AM

A reverse No DQ, No countout match.

AKA... a regular match with a cooler sounding name.

Kane Knight 06-01-2004 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c4g2
Ah a reverse Falls Count Anywhere match, which means... a Falls Count Nowhere match. :shifty:

BEST.

IDEA>

YET.

c4g2 06-01-2004 03:49 AM

A who can break through the Spanish announcers' table first match.

Kane Knight 06-01-2004 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k
Meh, I'd put my life savings on "A little from column A, a little from column B"

You speak the truth.

What Would Kevin Do? 06-01-2004 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I think it is innovative.

Innovation isn't always a good thing. This doesn't really excite me or make me want to see the match.

I'm trying to decide what's worse...NWA coming up with new flops or the WWE rehashing the old ones...

I think nearly any kind of stipulation match can be made good given the right people, with the exception of a few (Pig kennel match, kennel from hell match, etc.) WWE's problem is that when they rehash these old matches, they aren't always using people who can make the match good (IE, HHH vs Kevin Nash). However, sometimes the matches are good, (IE Jericho vs HHH.)

I have a feeling NWA is going to try to get the match over on the stipulation itself, and not on the talent in the ring. They should be less concerned about constantly working towards the stipulation, and instead they should focus on a great match...

Quick though on the penalty box idea. Do you think that could work for an Iron man match. IF you had a five man iron man match, and upon each decison, whoever lost the decision was removed from the match or a short period of time, would that work?


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