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Stu Hart 04-08-2022 05:21 AM

Is Cody worth it?
 
Apart from the supposed coup of getting him from AEW, and the initial intrigue, is Cody bringing that much to the table to justify his supposedly inflated contract?


He wasn't much in his previous WWE run, and in AEW he was second to Jericho at the launch of the company, so what has really changed? Him claiming to be the best wrestler in an era where the in-ring product is secondary to the "ga-ga" is moot. Yes he is somewhat of an internet darling but as he settles in WWE that will ware off.

He talked about his father - okay, fine. Thats done now. In the long run, what does Cody offer?

GD 04-08-2022 07:07 AM

ADRENALINE
IN MY SOUL
SHOVE IT UP YOURS CODY RHODES

Destor 04-08-2022 08:16 AM

Cody makes a fine billboard for the guys who left or want to leave.

Crippla 04-08-2022 08:31 AM

I guess this is something that we will just see in time. I can't really speculate one way or another yet but is there any alleged details or number for this inflated contract? Serious question I'm curious about it because I don't keep up with all the news/rumors the way I used to

weather vane 04-08-2022 05:02 PM

They have unlimited money.

ClockShot 04-08-2022 05:14 PM

I think I said it in the original thread. But when Vince wakes up one morning and wants him to be Stardust again and Cody doesn't have a choice in the matter, then what.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 05:20 PM

2.3 Million would suggest so!

XL 04-08-2022 05:32 PM

Very early to tell but I think so, yeah. He’s got presence, comes across as a star, can do your media stuff. You can pair him with so many of their talents and get something halfway decent; there’s history with Orton, a natural feud with Reigns with their family history to draw from, a programme with The Miz would be easy to establish, vs McIntyre as 2 guys that left the company and rebuilt themselves, etc.

I think it’s down to WWE with how far they can take him.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 05:55 PM

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XL 04-09-2022 04:26 AM

It’s at least worth it just to fulfil xrod’s TONYBAD kink.

xrodmuc316 04-09-2022 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5539593)
It’s at least worth it just to fulfil xrod’s TONYBAD kink.

In what way is crying about Bots a good thing?

ron the dial 04-09-2022 01:34 PM

in what way is crying about crying about bots a good thing?

ron the dial 04-09-2022 01:34 PM

in what way is crying about crying about crying about bots a good thing?

ron the dial 04-09-2022 01:35 PM

in what way is crying about crying about crying about crying about bots a good thing?

#1-norm-fan 04-09-2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5539593)
It’s at least worth it just to fulfil xrod’s TONYBAD kink.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5539633)
In what way is crying about Bots a good thing?

He answered the question before you asked it.

What is this, Jeopardy?

XL 04-09-2022 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5539633)
In what way is crying about Bots a good thing?

I think you are confusing your throwaway comments about posts on social media platforms. The throwaway comment I made relating to TK’s independent research into bots doesn’t actually exist. But don’t let that get in the way of your direct reply to something that wasn’t said.

THIS throwaway comment is about some dude’s post on Reddit and how Cody’s move back to WWE is at the very least worth it just to feed your insatiable appetite for TONYBAD content.

IF Bot xrod doesn't care about my throwaway comment, why respond to something I didn’t even say or infer? IF Bot xrod does care, why not just respond to that?

Or, you know, leave a throwaway comment that doesn’t merit a response as a throwaway comment that doesn’t merit a response?

fundiddle 04-09-2022 02:50 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPyI2wpXsCoR66G.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 04-09-2022 07:32 PM

As Destor said, he makes a great billboard. His debut was amazing, and if they continue to do it well, Tony is going to have no leverage when it comes to signing/retaining people. If you’ve got proper talent, why not go to the promotion with several times the global audience?

Mr. Nerfect 04-09-2022 07:34 PM

Theory: Most of the names who have their deals come up are going to choose WWE. Then, when the WarnerMedia deal with AEW is up, WWE are going to make a proper play for their slots.

xrodmuc316 04-09-2022 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5539661)
I think you are confusing your throwaway comments about posts on social media platforms. The throwaway comment I made relating to TK’s independent research into bots doesn’t actually exist. But don’t let that get in the way of your direct reply to something that wasn’t said.

THIS throwaway comment is about some dude’s post on Reddit and how Cody’s move back to WWE is at the very least worth it just to feed your insatiable appetite for TONYBAD content.

IF Bot xrod doesn't care about my throwaway comment, why respond to something I didn’t even say or infer? IF Bot xrod does care, why not just respond to that?

Or, you know, leave a throwaway comment that doesn’t merit a response as a throwaway comment that doesn’t merit a response?

You implying it is good solely for my "TONYBAD" content, but the joke of that post was Tony said his stupid independent research into bots was because he was coping with Cody leaving. The joke was about the bots, not a comment on Cody to WWE being worth it or not. My throwaway comment was just that, redirecting to Tony Khan's weird crowing, not actually arguing your CodyGood TonyBad post.

You twisted my throwaway comment just to create a counter argument to a post I made about Bald Revival Tweeting days ago. That kind of thought process would pop a few people here, but I am not a Fan of it.

Mr. Nerfect 04-09-2022 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5539743)
Theory: Most of the names who have their deals come up are going to choose WWE. Then, when the WarnerMedia deal with AEW is up, WWE are going to make a proper play for their slots.

This is if they make it to the end of their deal before they find their head on the Warner Bros. Discovery chopping block.

Jordan 04-09-2022 09:10 PM

Cody in talks to play in Marvel Universe as son of a hero. Also Cody to debut new exquisite wine and liquors reality road show.

Stu Hart 04-10-2022 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5539742)
As Destor said, he makes a great billboard. His debut was amazing, and if they continue to do it well, Tony is going to have no leverage when it comes to signing/retaining people. If you’ve got proper talent, why not go to the promotion with several times the global audience?

The sell would be more creative freedom, ownership and working a more wrestling style than ga-ga. AEW is the alternative (or close to it) that TNA should have been.

I feel as thought the wwe no longer holds my interest the way AEW does. Cody leaving was the only thing that made me watch wrestle mania highlights. The rest was the same old horseshit.

XL 04-10-2022 03:43 AM

I was speaking to one of my only “out” wrestling fan friends before Mania (I suspect some of my other friends have at least a passing interest but we don’t talk about it), he’s been a WWE fan forever but he’s only watched the last 2 Manias and the Rumble in between. He’s into AEW now. I’m not sure that audience is big enough to get AEW to the point of perpetual motion like WWE

XL 04-10-2022 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5539745)
You implying it is good solely for my "TONYBAD" content, but the joke of that post was Tony said his stupid independent research into bots was because he was coping with Cody leaving. The joke was about the bots, not a comment on Cody to WWE being worth it or not. My throwaway comment was just that, redirecting to Tony Khan's weird crowing, not actually arguing your CodyGood TonyBad post.

You twisted my throwaway comment just to create a counter argument to a post I made about Bald Revival Tweeting days ago. That kind of thought process would pop a few people here, but I am not a Fan of it.

Nope.

Corporate CockSnogger 04-10-2022 04:58 AM

If you’re WWE, it makes absolute sense to make Cody a big deal for them. It gives them that edge for any other AEW wrestlers who have always had “WWE Champion” as their end goal. These guys all grew up and got into the business to one day get into WWE, so even a lot of the die hard AEW originals may still one day want to make their way over.

Cody being presented well and succeeding gives everyone in AEW the thought that they can do the same. Even if WWE then hires 5 more AEW guys and treats them terribly, the 6th will still think “but maybe I can do what Cody did”

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2022 07:39 AM

It’s going to be interesting to see where a lot of the AEW guys end up as their contracts expire. Say what you want about their product, the one thing they can’t guarantee is exposure on the level of WWE. A name I was thinking about earlier is Kenny Omega.

AEW 4 lyf, right? Now they’ve got a bunch of bigger names and arguably better workers (even if you like Omega’s style). Danielson, Punk and Joe spring immediatelty to mind. And Omega’s style seems to clash with Punk’s “Bret Hart” philosophy.

Omega’s deal is up in early 2023. WWE can drape a Rumble debut, a match with Styles at Mania, a big program across the summer and then talk about bringing Jericho in for Hall of Fame induction and retirement match against Omega at Mania 40. If Omega has concerns about going in, a program with Styles and Jericho tentatively laid out could ease that. If you believe WWE really wants to rip the soul out of AEW, they can make these sorts of promises.

I don’t think anyone in AEW is actually safe from their tendrils now they’ve got a taste for actually giving AEW guys big stage moments.

Ruien 04-10-2022 07:41 AM

I dont think WWE needs or wants 90% of AEW's roster.

xrodmuc316 04-10-2022 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5539803)
I dont think WWE needs or wants 90% of AEW's roster.

90% of AEW's roster is people WWE already had and released :rofl:

Sepholio 04-10-2022 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5539803)
I dont think WWE needs or wants 90% of AEW's roster.

They don't. But that 10% at the top is definitely on their radar.

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2022 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5539830)
They don't. But that 10% at the top is definitely on their radar.

Agreed.

Crippla 04-10-2022 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5539830)
They don't. But that 10% at the top is definitely on their radar.

MJF seems to want to go to WWE and thinks they're gonna offer him a huge crazy contract when his contract is up. I doubt they think he is worth as much as he thinks he is worth but there is no doubt in my mind he will end up there.

Sepholio 04-10-2022 03:02 PM

I wanna wait and see a little more what he does on his own now, but I feel like Wardlow is the guy they will want the most. MJF too though to be the next Miz.

Lock Jaw 04-10-2022 03:42 PM

I dunno if MJF will ever want to go to WWE for real.... he seems to want to "live the character" and I doubt WWE would want him to go around swearing and being a jerk to little girls at autograph signings and such....

I don't doubt that he would use possibly going to WWE to try to get more money out of AEW though

Sepholio 04-10-2022 04:14 PM

As young as he is I think MJF would def go over there for a few years to make some money, get some exposure, and learn what he can from some of the guys there. I think he would possibly move on after that though as I can see him not being happy there for the long term.

Sepholio 04-10-2022 04:15 PM

He could realistically go over there for 3 or 4 years, work with AJ/Edge/Orton/Miz just to name a few, develop a TON, and still be out before he's 30.

#1-norm-fan 04-10-2022 04:17 PM

Oh God, the thought of a WWE-neutered MJF is depressing as shit.

Fignuts 04-10-2022 04:21 PM

Yeah, MJF in WWE would be tragic.

XL 04-10-2022 04:36 PM

I think he’s in a strong position and “playing both sides”. He can go to WWE and get PAID, he can use WWE to get a better deal out of AEW, and he can play off the “pro WWE” talk as being in character.

Crippla 04-10-2022 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5539859)
As young as he is I think MJF would def go over there for a few years to make some money, get some exposure, and learn what he can from some of the guys there. I think he would possibly move on after that though as I can see him not being happy there for the long term.

That's exactly what I see happening...he will end up there at some point it is inevitable


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