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Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 09:08 AM

Anyone got any cool “what if” scenarios to discuss?
 
Wrestling sucks, so I like to tease myself with ways it could have gone down a different path. Feel free to discuss the usual culprits, but I’m particularly interested in weird little forks that don’t often get discussed.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 09:13 AM

One I’ve been thinking about lately after listening to a podcast on the Montreal Screwjob, is what could have happened if Owen, Ken Shamrock, Rick Rude, Davey Boy, Neidhart and Mick Foley had left the WWF with Bret after the screwjob. Owen, Shamrock and Foley are the ones I’m particularly interested in.

Shamrock could have ended up with the streak gimmick before Goldberg, which would have greatly impacted history (and not necessarily for the better). I could see Hogan playing games with Bret and putting over Owen and not Bret (ala Flair/Arn). We wouldn’t get the Foley bump off the cell. We might get him doing something crazy against Sting, Nash or Hall to draw attention to WCW. Foley is probably one of the greatest carpenters ever, so it would be interesting to see who he helped get to the next level in 1998/1999 WCW.

Lock Jaw 03-03-2023 11:28 AM

What if Val Venis won the world title?

#1-norm-fan 03-03-2023 11:37 AM

There’s the pitch…

Lock Jaw 03-03-2023 01:01 PM

I always wonder what would have happened if Christian, the more talented of the duo, got the same push and respect that Edge got.....

Bad News Gertner 03-03-2023 03:03 PM

What if : Ric Flair jumps to the WWF in 86 like he was rumored.

Seanny One Ball 03-03-2023 03:21 PM

What if Right To Censor had been given more time…

I loved it.
I was old enough to get it, and I was angry when it ended.
It is an eternally relevant idea.

Seanny One Ball 03-03-2023 03:24 PM

What if D’Lo had been rewarded for his brilliance instead of released?!
My favourite undercarder of all time… throwing titles at him and they kept him as a card builder.

He should have had a World Title based on theme tune alone.

Seanny One Ball 03-03-2023 03:26 PM

D’Lo was probably my actual favourite of all time to be honest.
He still rules.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 03:32 PM

I wish RTC had stayed together until at least Judgment Day, because I would have loved to have seen Steven Richards do a promo for it like a preacher predicting the end. Throw Taker & Kane against all four male members or something.

I sometimes revisit 2001 and what it could have been with a few tweaks and either with WCW existing outside WWF, or Vince having a steady hand with it and sticking to WWF storylines for 2001.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 03:37 PM

D’Lo Brown is a guy that was there for quite a bit longer than he was relevant, a lot like the RTC guys. Would have been cool to see him get some refocus in 2001, 2002, etc.

Bull Buchanan is probably my guilty pleasure wrestler. I enjoyed watching him do that leaping clothesline too much as a kid. Gerty shared a match he had as one-half of Armageddon on either a Jakked or Shotgun, and he and Sniper did my childhood fantasy double-team move — a back body drop into a powerbomb.

I could have gone for a D’Lo Brown/Bull Buchanan tag team at some point. They might have done that in All Japan or something lol.

xrodmuc316 03-03-2023 03:38 PM

What if Evil Vito kept doing Thinking Differently threads? Those were awesome!

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5603385)
What if Val Venis won the world title?

Going back and watching Val, he was really dry when he was getting his push. The Val I loved really put it together when he was too bald and the gimmicks were past it. There may have been something more to the Chief Morley gimmick in 2003, but his pushes in 1998-2000 didn’t really work anywhere but the mid-card.

I do wonder what would have happened if Adam Copeland & Sean Morley had been brought in as a tag team in 1998. Where does that leave Christian? Does that create more opportunities for a Morley, or does it just weigh down Edge?

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5603397)
What if : Ric Flair jumps to the WWF in 86 like he was rumored.

That’d be huge. The ramifications to the NWA and JCP would have been immense. Where do you think they go for their next champion and where to put focus?

Flair in the WWF then would be surreal in retrospect. Flair’s there for WrestleMania III. Do they plug him in with Roddy Piper? Ricky Steamboat? Huge.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-03-2023 07:42 PM

This isn’t my idea but I like it so I’m taking it. If Johnny B. Badd doesn’t feud with Diamond Dallas Page over the WCW Television Championship in 1995, there never would have been a Women’s Revolution.

Discuss…

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 07:56 PM

I guess the thinking is that if Marc Mero doesn’t take Sable to the WWF, Vince never works out tits and ass draw? I think he would have gotten there another way.

Seanny One Ball 03-03-2023 09:59 PM

We never got to see Sherri’s boobs

Seanny One Ball 03-03-2023 10:05 PM

Anybody got a clip of this back body drop/powerbomb double team move?
I feel like I have to see that before I die.

Evil Vito 03-03-2023 10:27 PM

What if Regal hadn't been suspended in 2008.

He's said that, while he doesn't know for sure, he doesn't believe they were ever planning on putting the title on him. But man, that heel GM run was so good for a while. A genuinely detestable heel.

Plus Triple H was close with him so who knows, maybe strings could've been pulled to get Regal the honor of being the first British World champion before he inevitably dropped it to Hunter or whoever.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 10:32 PM

I remember thinking it only made sense to put the WWE Title on Regal via abuse of power, but I don’t think they would have done it.

XL 03-04-2023 05:50 AM

I thought the World Heavyweight Championship was on Raw at the time? Regal with the Big Gold belt would have been a look.

Bad News Gertner 03-04-2023 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5603441)
Anybody got a clip of this back body drop/powerbomb double team move?
I feel like I have to see that before I die.

Won't let me embedd but here's the match


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wfvFwC...dWViZWNlcnM%3D

xrodmuc316 03-05-2023 03:30 AM

What if Tiny Khan melts down and breaks whatever NDA they all signed when Cody left? Because it is coming :lol:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWESyracuse?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWESyracuse</a> is ELECTRIC for <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a>!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WrestleMania</a> <a href="https://t.co/bFEo4bVZdh">pic.twitter.com/bFEo4bVZdh</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1632202688023633923?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-05-2023 09:04 AM

Great contribution fuckrod.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-05-2023 09:05 AM

What if Shawn doesn't lose his smile?

xrodmuc316 03-05-2023 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5603584)
Great contribution fuckrod.

Cody is over and embarrassing Tiny every time he walks out. Tiny will meltdown, so "What If" he violates the NDA? Does Cody get a massive payday? Does Cody then get to reveal all? Does Tiny cry in public?

Seems like a "What If" with a lot of depth, so thank you, it is a great contribution!

Seanny One Ball 03-05-2023 05:37 PM

Please stop calling him Tiny.
It offends my sensibilities.

Seanny One Ball 03-05-2023 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5603585)
What if Shawn doesn't lose his smile?


What if he had a stroke that gave him a permanent smile?
I’d watch it.

Mr. Nerfect 03-05-2023 06:10 PM

Tony Khan has a meltdown and Jeff Jarrett runs the company.

XL 03-05-2023 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5603584)
Great contribution fuckrod.

Hey now!

xrod has to get this weird Tony Khan obsession out of his system somewhere. What do you expect him to do, use one of the other 4 or 5 threads almost dedicated to it!?!?

Your post is borderline discriminatory.

Verbose Minch 03-06-2023 08:48 AM

Cody Rhodes goes an entire promo without "muh daddy"

Bad News Gertner 03-06-2023 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5603407)
That’d be huge. The ramifications to the NWA and JCP would have been immense. Where do you think they go for their next champion and where to put focus?

Flair in the WWF then would be surreal in retrospect. Flair’s there for WrestleMania III. Do they plug him in with Roddy Piper? Ricky Steamboat? Huge.

I wonder if JCP goes after Kerry Von Erich. Windham probably gets a large push

Flair coming in eliminates the Orndorff vs Hogan feud and potentially the Andre v Hogan feud.

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 06:24 PM

My mind went to Windham getting a huge push. Crazy to think about Andre/Hogan going away. Is that just because you’d think the logical plan would be to go with Hogan/Flair at Mania 3? I can see a universe where Hogan gets Andre and Flair gets Piper. Flair retires him and goes with Hogan after that.

Bad News Gertner 03-09-2023 07:56 PM

I guess it would depend on when Flair comes into the WWF.

IIRC it was August of 86.

Piper vs Flair would be an awesome idea.

I just don't know if Flair comes into the WWF at that time without promise of a Hogan run out of the gate.

Piper vs Adonis was a bit of a dud at the box office so I wonder how well Flair and Piper would do

Helmsphere 03-12-2023 03:29 AM

What if The Hurricane actually got a Solid push after pinning The Rock.

Stu Hart 03-13-2023 03:29 AM

What if Katie Vick is still alive?

Mr. Nerfect 03-13-2023 09:01 AM

She’d be signed to AEW and treated as a legend.

Mr. Nerfect 03-19-2023 06:18 PM

What if Hogan sees something in Steve Austin and he never goes to the WWF because he’s figured in. Austin is there when the nWo debut.

Tom Guycott 03-20-2023 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5605156)
What if Hogan sees something in Steve Austin and he never goes to the WWF because he’s figured in. Austin is there when the nWo debut.

"Naw, baby, that'th fo' thumbudy elth."

Besides, if it were Hogan seeing something in Austin, it just means he'd be groomed as another proverbial giant for him to slay. Short run, bad ending.

Mr. Nerfect 03-20-2023 11:46 AM

I think Austin would have still left at some point, because the politics would have become too thick. Even if he had gotten hot, say, opposite the nWo — that would have clashed with the intended direction.

Maybe Bischoff string Austin along with more money for a while. I think the game would eventually be up though.


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