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GD 09-20-2023 12:24 PM

AEW: Dynamite Grand Slam 2023
 

Sepholio 09-20-2023 12:32 PM

I am not very whelmed by this card. Joe and MJF is interesting but the rest is like...meh.

Claudio v Kingston will probably be a generic slug fest between 2 guys who are boring at this point.

Obligatory Chris Overthehillicho match as required on all "big" shows.

Moxley v Fenix will prob be a fun match but we all know it's just going to devolve into amateur surgery hour at some point.

And Saraya v Toni Storm.

I think my level of whelm went down a little more after typing that.

Splaya 09-20-2023 12:43 PM

The Moxley bleeding every match thing is a joke. Just unnecessary and what it actually impacts the company as a whole. When other wrestlers bleed, it doesn't add the shock value to the match like it should because Moxley does it every week.

I could care less about Saraya and Toni Storm because just like WWE, they haven't done enough to make the audience want to care about it. Toni Storm is interesting with this new character but Saraya's championship run has been lackluster at best.

Feel like this is going to be me reading Bleacher Report's review of the show and if anything stands out, I'll give it a watch.

GD 09-20-2023 12:44 PM

Claudio vs Eddie is one of the best unintentional long term rivalries in recent memory. I'll be rooting for Eddie despite the obvious conclusion of the match.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2023 03:26 PM

Is attendance still looking abyssmal?

GD 09-20-2023 03:43 PM

Since I don't have to view Noid's posts anymore, my enjoyment of professional wrestling has increased immensely.

I just had an insane idea where you don't have to watch a promotion if you disapprove of their storytelling and booking decisions. Especially, if it is affecting your mental health. I know it sounds absurd to even suggest this but people have varying interests and they may like things that you don't. I know it sounds crazy but it's definitely worth considering.

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 04:51 PM

This card feels like a repeat. How many times are we supposed to care about Cesaro vs Kingston? The Outcasts were so generic and stale, and even the fueding of them wasn't a hot angle, just literally "oh Toni Storm is crazy now". Moxley vs Fenix is so heatless I feel like it has both happened many times and I cant remember if it has ever happened. Jericho vs Sammy has been teased for what 3 years, across 2 different factions, and the payoff is doing the same story MJF/Adam Cole just did?

Even Joe vs MJF is built around MJF as an extra in NXT. I made a post a few days ago about if not Joe than who, but what does it say about the AEW World Title if it is lost to the 3rd tier ROH singles championship? Seriously, the AEW World Title would be on equal footing with the TV Title for a company that doesn't even have a TV Deal.

Tiny Khan is just not good, even when he lucks into something good, he blows it completely. WTF happened to Wardlow?

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2023 05:15 PM

AEW isn’t very good.

GD 09-20-2023 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5630570)
This card feels like a repeat. How many times are we supposed to care about Cesaro vs Kingston? The Outcasts were so generic and stale, and even the fueding of them wasn't a hot angle, just literally "oh Toni Storm is crazy now". Moxley vs Fenix is so heatless I feel like it has both happened many times and I cant remember if it has ever happened. Jericho vs Sammy has been teased for what 3 years, across 2 different factions, and the payoff is doing the same story MJF/Adam Cole just did?

Even Joe vs MJF is built around MJF as an extra in NXT. I made a post a few days ago about if not Joe than who, but what does it say about the AEW World Title if it is lost to the 3rd tier ROH singles championship? Seriously, the AEW World Title would be on equal footing with the TV Title for a company that doesn't even have a TV Deal.

Tiny Khan is just not good, even when he lucks into something good, he blows it completely. WTF happened to Wardlow?

From your post history, it is clear that you do not like AEW, TK or CM Punk. What compels you to keep posting about them so much when you're not getting any enjoyment out of the product?

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GD (Post 5630573)
From your post history, it is clear that you do not like AEW, TK or CM Punk. What compels you to keep posting about them so much when you're not getting any enjoyment out of the product?

I like AEW fine, I watch it and I enjoy parts of it. If I didnt watch it I wouldnt care if they put on lackluster shows.

Since day one of AEW, I have had the exact same thought process, if something is good ill enjoy it, but I refuse to just blindly cheerlead for everything no matter what. For a show they made a big deal of, Grand Slam, this is a lazy heatless card. Just because it is Grand Slam does not mean I have to pretend the same old same old is exciting.

I do dislike Tiny Khan, and I think it is a shame that out of all the billionaire kids in the world, we got stuck with him as the one who funds a secondary wrestling promotion. Any one of Elon Musk's 10 children would do a better job. Even the ones that are 2 years old could drool on a page of AEW's roster and make better randomized matches.

I think CM Phil the person is a prick, but that is not why I dislike him. If he was presented in any other way than super tough badass guy who beats everybody, he could be an interesting character. The CM Punk we got was not believable because I saw with my own eyes him not even being able to defend himself from getting tickled and pinched by an amateur fighter, and that was after spending 3 years and a million+ dollars to train with a world class MMA coach and training team.

FYI as Darlene, your posts were better.

GD 09-20-2023 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5630577)
I like AEW fine, I watch it and I enjoy parts of it. If I didnt watch it I wouldnt care if they put on lackluster shows.

Since day one of AEW, I have had the exact same thought process, if something is good ill enjoy it, but I refuse to just blindly cheerlead for everything no matter what. For a show they made a big deal of, Grand Slam, this is a lazy heatless card. Just because it is Grand Slam does not mean I have to pretend the same old same old is exciting.

I do dislike Tiny Khan, and I think it is a shame that out of all the billionaire kids in the world, we got stuck with him as the one who funds a secondary wrestling promotion. Any one of Elon Musk's 10 children would do a better job. Even the ones that are 2 years old could drool on a page of AEW's roster and make better randomized matches.

I think CM Phil the person is a prick, but that is not why I dislike him. If he was presented in any other way than super tough badass guy who beats everybody, he could be an interesting character. The CM Punk we got was not believable because I saw with my own eyes him not even being able to defend himself from getting tickled and pinched by an amateur fighter, and that was after spending 3 years and a million+ dollars to train with a world class MMA coach and training team.

FYI as Darlene, your posts were better.

Gross. Never pegged you for an AEW fanboy :roll:

Sepholio 09-20-2023 07:08 PM

Ikr, what a mark ass loser

rez 09-20-2023 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GD (Post 5630567)
Since I don't have to view Noid's posts anymore, my enjoyment of professional wrestling has increased immensely.

I just had an insane idea where you don't have to watch a promotion if you disapprove of their storytelling and booking decisions. Especially, if it is affecting your mental health. I know it sounds absurd to even suggest this but people have varying interests and they may like things that you don't. I know it sounds crazy but it's definitely worth considering.

Yeah, it'd be like someone on the left watching/hate'bating to Fox News.

rez 09-20-2023 08:19 PM

Leave xrod alone. He's just enjoying the AEW themed butt plug I bought him.

rez 09-20-2023 08:21 PM

I wish Triple A would make his triumphant comeback in the Grand Slam thread tonight...

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rez (Post 5630598)
Leave xrod alone. He's just enjoying the AEW themed butt plug I bought him.

You should have bought me a pen, well nevermind, just like AEW it probably couldn't draw either :rofl:

rez 09-20-2023 08:32 PM

haha

slik 09-20-2023 09:02 PM

Good set/stage

slik 09-20-2023 09:03 PM

TBS has granted AEW a 5 min overrun for tonight btw...

Destor 09-20-2023 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5630577)
I think CM Phil the person is a prick, but that is not why I dislike him. If he was presented in any other way than super tough badass guy who beats everybody, he could be an interesting character. The CM Punk we got was not believable because I saw with my own eyes him not even being able to defend himself from getting tickled and pinched by an amateur fighter, and that was after spending 3 years and a million+ dollars to train with a world class MMA coach and training team.

The thing that gets me the most is you take Jim Cornette who has created a one sided fued with Kenny Omega. His hest is because Omega did some comedy stuff for DDT that nearly no one saw and more over more than half of the people who know about it state only know because he brings up every 5 seconds. It can be reasonably argued that JC himself has done more to popularize the match than anyone.

Now juxtapose that against Punk. What punk did in the ufc he did in front of a massive buyrate. Everyone saw it. Punks blight on the image of wrestling is so severe it nearly out does the good faith Lesnar had accrued for wrestlers being tough guys.

I cant comprehend giving Punk a pass for exposing the business and to simultaneously Omega. It makes zero sense. Omega being a young guy just trying to keep the pay checks coming in said yes to some shit he didnt have the sense to say no to. I get that.

Punk however? There's no way he didnt know he couldnt fight. He'd been in the camps. He fuckin knew damn good and well. He needed the pay day and needed more than he needed to protect the business.

There's an old adage in wrestling. Kayfabe the dick. If you're a baby its good business to fuck the rats. They keep coming back, they spend more money and they tell the other girls all about it. But you gotta have the good dick to make it work. If you dont have that good dick KAYFABE THE DICK.

Punk took those fights knowing he didnt have the dick to back it up. And if you dont it poisons the well for the rest of us. It kills your draw and it kills our draw.

slik 09-20-2023 09:32 PM

Roddy/Cole stuff is great

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5630610)
Roddy/Cole stuff is great

Roddy super mad Cole doesn't come around enough to check on him, yet doesn't care at all that his wife has not once done so, even though he does know her! :lol::lol:

rez 09-20-2023 09:48 PM

Damn...thought Sammy was gonna win this one.

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 09:50 PM

OMG HECKIN CALLBACK!!!!!!!

How does Tiny come up with such good ideas???

weather vane 09-20-2023 09:55 PM

Sammy Guevara

slik 09-20-2023 09:58 PM

nice throwback moment to hbk/jericho at wm 19

slik 09-20-2023 10:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rey Fenix isn't waiting for Jon Moxley to get into the ring!<br><br>Watch <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWGrandSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWGrandSlam</a> LIVE ON TBS!<a href="https://twitter.com/ReyFenixMx?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReyFenixMx</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> <a href="https://t.co/bpzjyGRNMx">pic.twitter.com/bpzjyGRNMx</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1704662052017471712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 10:12 PM

Did they really just job Moxley to Rey Fenix lol

rez 09-20-2023 10:13 PM

:yes:

slik 09-20-2023 10:17 PM

Aghhh at Mox landing on his head

glad Fenix won

rez 09-20-2023 10:19 PM

<3 Toni's entrance

slik 09-20-2023 10:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">REY FENIX IS INTERNATIONAL CHAMPION!!! Hopefully Moxley is alright, was a deff an adjusted finish there <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/qCMfod7DdP">pic.twitter.com/qCMfod7DdP</a></p>&mdash; ��️��️ (@KXNGAO) <a href="https://twitter.com/KXNGAO/status/1704665342054740400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 10:20 PM

Ok Toni Storm is completely off her rocker!

slik 09-20-2023 10:25 PM

why not just have fenix beat oc for the title in the first place

slik 09-20-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5630625)
Ok Toni Storm is completely off her rocker!

She's so good in this gimmick

rez 09-20-2023 10:29 PM

Hellz yeah. Go, Toni

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 10:30 PM

Dude cant we not have Saraya take piledrivers?

rez 09-20-2023 10:30 PM

Damnit! Went to grab some Dew and got back as the 3 count happened. Booooo

slik 09-20-2023 10:39 PM

He needs to checked out in a hospital ASAP

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Photo sent to me just now: Renee, Claudio, Wheeler Yuta &amp; Tony Khan outside of Jon Moxley’s trailer <a href="https://t.co/KVG3GXhphY">pic.twitter.com/KVG3GXhphY</a></p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1704669594613395515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 09-20-2023 10:39 PM

OMG HECKIN ANOTHER CALLBACK!!!!!!!

How does Tiny come up with such good ideas???


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