ESPN Football 2K5 > Madden '05
 

I'm sorry, and I don't care if I become the subject of a witch hunt, ESPN '05 is better than this year's Madden. It's not even the balls on the wall price tag either; it's just more fun to play. Many complain about the running game being to damn easy, but screw it; it's just more fun to play. Madden has become hyper realistic and shares the mantel of a certain racing game that's become so hardcore, only those seriously infused with the genre can enjoy the product.

The Hot Route system is better, the play calling isn't scientific, the audible system kicks ass; and expect the VIP system to be a damn standard by next generation sports games. It's as much a leap forward in stat collecting as Soul Calibur's 8-Way Run is to Side Stepping. And the Stadium Music utilizing your Custom Soundtracks is something that still empresses me to know end. Imagine a fighting where you can set up your own music tracks to certain characters, stages, even menus. Sega kicked ass in presentation this year. The commentary is the best in football games and the half time show is freaking unbelievable; the lesser minded will believe it's a real broadcast watching from afar.

Sorry Madden, ESPN gets my play time this year; and maybe from now on. Madden plays better, mind you; but it's all about where you have fun. And in the end, I just wanna play a fun video game.

ESPN's in-game non-playing football aspects (i.e. the whole ESPN thing it has) are better than Madden's, but Madden is far superior in the end.

Are you refering to the "Pick a play and put down your controller" aspects of Madden's beefed up Defense game?

Maybe you should just stop playing on the easy levels.

Who the heck is that refering to? Normal difficulty doesn't cut it where I come from, hardest or second to hardest as far as our sports games go; though we don't play many (we're the fighting game, shooter crowd). I can only hope you weren't refering to me.

Im child of Madden. And nothing seems close to it for me.

I was refering to you.

Oh. Well in that case.

Nah Madden is way better. The gameplay is just way, way better. ESPN is like too slow or something. The graphics in ESPN are better, I'll give it that, but I enjoy a more realistic game and Madden rules for that.

Madden has gameplay, I'll never contest that. But presentation is just as important to me; and ESPN rocks with that. Having Prince's Dove's Cry play when I'm successful in a 2pt. Conversion adds alot to my experience; and humiliation to the opposing team. And this is the first football game that I let play all the cut scenes and little stat by stat clickers on screen between plays.

Think about Smackdown vs Raw, it's biggest additions have very little to do with actual gameplay and more to do with presentation. It's a key in any licensed game.

Yeah Madden is pretty shitty when it comes to that. The halftime show and stuff is awful. It's from like 1996 or something. ESPN is pretty cool with all that. Better shots of the fans, getting peanuts and stuff like that. Pretty hot, I gotta admit. :mad: But Madden is still a better football game.

I personally like ESPN better. It became the popular opinion to like Madden and now everybody here (at my school) loves it and says ESPN sucks without ever playing it. When I play sports games I like them to be realistic, like I don't throw bombs every play and don't go for it on fourth down etc, and I think that ESPN is better for that. Thats just me though.

What are you talking about? If you throw a bomb every play in Madden, the computer AI will start to play the pass every play and you won't complete shit. It's almost impossible to complete a bomb unless you have a fast receiver who is single covered, just like in real life. :eek:

What does going for it on fourth down have to do with the games? :wtf:

Shut up :shifty:

Yeah, bomb plays are impossible in Madden. My two main recievers both have above 90 speed and I never can complete a deep pass to them.

In the past its always been when you play a videogame all you do is pass really, but in ESPN the pass has to be pretty much perfect for it to be caught, so it forces you to run a lot and only make good passes, I like that. I guess I was going by watching people around here and remembering from old games and it always seems like people are going for the big plays everytime. Meh, all I can say is that I love running with Michael Bennett in ESPN, his breakout speed is phenominal.

The Slant Hot Route direction eats Zone defenses alive. This I promise you. At least with my good buddy Galloway of the TB Buccs. And manipulate your player packages if you want a bomb play to work in Madden, miss matches are key at some pass plays. But really, gung ho bomb plays are... well... immature. Trying to make a star out of a QB who's stats may not be up for it only makes the defense looks good.

And after you complete two or three of those slant routes, the defense doesn't play zone for a while after that.

Maybe it's just the teams I'm playing or something. :mad:

Been able to do that in EA's NHL games for YEARS (pc).

I dunno what cheesing is, but that is exactly what I am saying.

I see, maybe if I played online I would have known that.

Road Dog, you're the exact reason people don't voice the fact that they approve ESPN, or any other football game, over your precious Madden. Look at your post regarding our oppinions... We're retarded?

Presentation is just as important as gameplay; because it's what makes me... PLAY THE GAME. So yeah, I like it when a song I like plays during certain situations in the game. I like Berman's halftime show. Hell it's kick-ass presentation that made a so-so game like Enter the Matrix sell like hotcakes.

And I'm here STILL giving props to Maddens gameplay and here you are calling some of us retarded? BCWWF is right, when a game, or anything popular, establishes itself for years; people are afraid to except change, and the possibility that their favorate 'thing' has been bested.

Again: ESPN '05 > Madden '05

I wonder, are you the type who sends letters to EA Sports when a WR's speed is 4 points too low? The most accurate way to simulate sports is actually going outside and playing it. You can snap back with, "Well if you want great presentation you should actually watch ESPN instead of playing it."

So here we are at a stalemate.

You play Madden, I play ESPN. We both have good points for our decision. Although I don't think I'm retarded for mine.

And there's nothing shitty about Dove's Cry.

Oh, I guess you were being an asshole, then. Nice representative for Madden, you are. Hey Doggy Dog; "Fear the D." Ha! See ya next year Madden.

:wtf:

Since when am I "representing" Madden? lol... you're taking this all a bit too seriously. :| See ya next year? Yeah 'cause it's not like Madden sold 1.3 MILLION copies on opening week alone or anything...

Madden's always gonna sell like, fact is; it's no longer because it's great gameplay. More than half that number are buying Madden on the count that it's cool to buy. Like the millions that saw the Matrix movies without knowing what the hell was going on; "It's the Matrix, everybody's going to see it." So don't throw numbers at me, there is a such thing as half a million non-gaming idiots. I bet you if all those numbers tried out ESPN for a week, sales would drop like a QB against a Hit Stick.

And yes, you are speaking out in defense of Madden so that makes you a representative. BTW, who plays online on either game?

"When Doves Cry" is not a shitty song, RDD. :mad:

Uncalled for. :'(