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Mister Sinister 09-15-2004 12:39 AM

Rate The Wrestler - Day 24 - Brock Lesnar
 
Okay, New Rule in effect....From now on I suggest everyone who votes to use Funky's, My Own or your own unique Rating Chart when voting, this is to eliminate ridicious voting and to ensure Fairness to the most.

Anyways, Jushin Lyger day is overwith, and well, while this may, make some of you upset, Lyger scored a 88...however if that is the case, they you're upset about it, please try to keep it to yourself, you can always Privite message me and talk about it, but what done is done, there's really no way to go back and change 23 Wrestlers Scores, since it was us who voted thoses scores...

Anyways, Today Wrestler is Brock Lesnar.

Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
Day 14: John Bradshaw Leyfield (46)
Day 15: Taz (82)
Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
Day 17: Christian (83)
Day 18: Ric Flair (87)
Day 19: Jeff Jarrett (65)
Day 20: Shawn Michaels (92)
Day 21: Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat (90)
Day 22: Kevin Nash (61)
Day 23: Jushin Lyger (88)

Current Top 10 Leaderboard
1.Bret Hart (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman, Shawn Michaels (92)
4. Chris Jericho (91)
5. Ricky Steamboat (90)
6. AJ Styles (89)
7. Jushin Lyger (88)
8. Ric Flair, Raven (87)
9. Ultimo Dragon, British Bulldog (84)
10. Christian (83)

Funky Fly 09-15-2004 12:44 AM

Ring ability: 9.5 (he's goood, but something's missing)
Overness: 9
Work rate: 9.5
Politics: 8 (complains, but doesn't really hold anyone down)
Mic skill: 5
Overall rank: 8.2

Splaya 09-15-2004 12:46 AM

Ring ability : 9.3
Overness: 9
Work rate: 8.5
Politics: 7
Mic skill 6

Overall rank 7.98 rounded up to 8

Evil Vito 09-15-2004 12:48 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Ring ability: 9.5
Overness: 10
Work rate: 10
Mic Skills: 7

Overall: 9.125, rounded down to a 9.1

(I decided to not use politics in my rating because they really don't mean that much to me)</font>

The Icon of Elisim 09-15-2004 12:48 AM

Ring ability: 10
Overness: 9
Work rate: 9.8
Politics: 5
Mic Skills: 7

8.2

Hardkore Kidd J 09-15-2004 12:49 AM

Ring Ability:9

Overness: 8.5

Work rate: 8.5

Politics:6

Mic Work: 9.0

I give him a 9.5

HeartBreakMan2k 09-15-2004 12:49 AM

Edit- Thank you Funky, I didn't really read the rules. That was my mistake.

Ability - 9.87
Personal bias - 10
Work Rate - 9.8 (look at Mania with Angle)
Politics - 8.4
Overness - 9.2
Mic skills - 6.5

Overall rating - 8.96, which I'm going to round up to an even 9.

FakeLaser 09-15-2004 12:49 AM

Ring Ability: 7
Charisma: 8
Politics: 6
Mic Skill: 4
Overall: 6.25

Funky Fly 09-15-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22
<font color=goldenrod>9.3 (I love Brock)</font>

Read the announcements, bub. You have to use a rating scale now to explain your rating. Granted, you are not part of the problem bunch that the new rule was set up for, but the rules apply to everybody.

Kapoutman 09-15-2004 12:50 AM

All right. Here's my chart. The favoritism part does not count in my final score.

Favoritism: 7
Wrestling(In ring skills): 9
Charisma/Mic skills(Promos, ease with crowds): 6
Entertainment(Does he provide it?): 8
Dedication: 5

Final Score(Average): 7

Dedication includes Politic and other factors. For example, Mick Foley and Sabu would get major scores in dedication because they were almost willing to die on the job(figuratively). I guess it would count as the heart/courage attribute in some RPGs.

RemyRed 09-15-2004 12:51 AM

Ability- 9
Overness- 10 (heel or face, he was over)
Work Rate- 10 (I don't remember him missing a day)
Politics- 8
Mic Skill- 6 (Pretty close to having the voice of a child)
Overall- 9

FakeLaser 09-15-2004 12:51 AM

Favortism, I like that. My favoritism for Lesnar is probably somewhere around a 5.

Evil Vito 09-15-2004 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
Read the announcements, bub. You have to use a rating scale now to explain your rating. Granted, you are not part of the problem bunch that the new rule was set up for, but the rules apply to everybody.

<font color=goldenrod>Oh shit, sorry about that. :o

Editing post now</font>

Gone Mad 09-15-2004 12:55 AM

Total:8.6

Ring Ability: 9

Overness: 9

Workrate: 8.5

Politics: 8

Mic Skills: 7

Kapoutman 09-15-2004 12:56 AM

Also, can I suggest Jim Neidhart for a future RTW? :o

Head 09-15-2004 12:57 AM

Ring ability: 9
Overness: 9.5
Work rate: 8.3
Mic Skills: 7
Overall: 8.45

I'm not gonna include a backstage politics rating, because I don't think any of us really know enough about that to make an accurate rating, and because I watch wrestling for the show, and I don't really care if the guy is an asshole backstage.

Evil Vito 09-15-2004 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapoutman
Also, can I suggest Jim Neidhart for a future RTW? :o

<font color=goldenrod>:y:

Also, Big Vito.</font> :o

Mister Sinister 09-15-2004 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22
<font color=goldenrod>:y:

Also, Big Vito.</font> :o

Consider Them Done!

BigDaddyCool 09-15-2004 01:02 AM

Brock is a pretty good wrestler, and was fairly over. So we start him with an 8.5.

I'm going to add half a point because he was the youngest credible champion ever (I don't think Orton was very credible, and he only held the belt for a month, and has/had no where the heat/pop/whatever, Brock had). So Brock is at a 9.

I'm going to add another half point because he was an absolute monster in the ring, and could carry a great match. Putting him up at 9.5.

Now the decutions. I'm taking a whole point away from him because of Paul Heyman and the way Brock was pushed. Brock was given the Goldberg treatment basically, and I believe the Goldberg treatment would work on anyone that size, and with Heyman the mouth piece of the operation, it can't fail. Heyman can hype anything, and make it look good. Because of these reasons, I don't think Brock would have had half the heat he did, and it would have taken much longer for him to get where he got, if at all. So that is why he loses a full point, bring him back down to 8.5.

I'm taking another half point because of how he acted around fans. At autograph signings and other such events, Brock was a complete ass. He barely made an effort to look at people, came in and out without saying a word. And basically spit on the people paying his salary when all they wanted was to say hi and get a hand shake. It is one thing for a celebrity to get ticked off at someone asking for an autograph and bothering them while they are trying to have a private moment, it is another to ignore people during a p.r. event, so he is now down to 8.

And Brockly loses another half point for the Goldberg fued. Anyone that makes me pick Goldberg (btw, I hate Goldberg) over them in a fued is trash. So now he is down to 7.5.

And finally, the way Brock left the business that made him famous loses him another half point. Now if his contract was going to be up, and he acknowledged the fact that WWE put him in a position where he could be drafted/given a try out at almost any football camp at his age, it would be different. But no, Brock all but took a shit on wrestling with the way he left, and further more, with the way he ignores it now. Bring him to an even 7.

Also, I'm taking a another tenth of a point because he had to injure one of the Cheifs' backup quarterbacks in a practice game. I'm all for hating the KC Cheifs, cause they win me money (I'm the one guy in KC that will bet against the Cheifs), but it is another thing to injure players and start fights at a practice game. So Brock goes to 6.9

Final Score: 6.8

(I dropped him another point because I hate his crappy tattoes)

BigDaddyCool 09-15-2004 01:04 AM

I like my own rating system, you guys don't mind do you?

Funky Fly 09-15-2004 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
I like my own rating system, you guys don't mind do you?

I :heart: u, BDC.

BigDaddyCool 09-15-2004 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
I :heart: u, BDC.

I love you too.

Innovator 09-15-2004 01:09 AM

Total: 7.3

Ring Ability: 9.5 (despite his size, awesome agility, something like a 38 inch vertical jump)

Overness: 8.5

Workrate: 7.5

Politics: 4 (he walked out because he was gonna lose to the Deadman, Taker put him over twice)

Mic Skills: 7

Kapoutman 09-15-2004 01:11 AM

That is a pretty sweet rating system.

Mister Sinister 09-15-2004 01:19 AM

Wrestling Ability/Workrate: 7.5 (He had his moments where he showed he had great talent, but in his later run, it's almost as if he didn't care if his matches were good or not)

Overness: 9.0 (He was Over, the fans started to resent him after a few, heel-face-heel turns, and besides his overpush in my eyes, he made the best of it and prove it was a smart move boosting him to the top)

Potential: N/A ( I don't know how to grade this, since I don't know if he is continue to go after football or one day return to Wrestling)

Charisma: 5 (I said before I don't give below fives, This guy needed Haymen as his mouth piece)

Finisher/Movelist: 9.5 (I loved the F-5, until they started getting Shittier and shiiter, his SSP was decent, plus he worked what moves he did well)

Influence: 8.5 (Sadly, Brock started a new wave for Vince and his booking Squad, if it wasn't for Brock getting so over with his mega push from the start, We may not of seen Orton, Cena and Eugene getting the chance to be so over, So I guess I owe the bastard some thanks)

My Opinion: 7.5 (I'm not really that big of a Lesnar fan, Hell the only time I cared was when he was going after the Title the first time)

Overall: 7.8

BigDaddyCool 09-15-2004 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapoutman
That is a pretty sweet rating system.

Are you talking about mine?

V 09-15-2004 01:41 AM

Ring ability: 9
Overness: 9.5
Work rate: 6 (cuz of the way he left)
Mic skill: 4 (wtf, he thought he was in mexico)

Overall: 7

FourFifty 09-15-2004 01:50 AM

<font color=cyan>Ring ability: 7
He was just a big man. The only reason he got a 7, and not a 5 is he can botch a shooting star press... 1 point because he can do it, .5 because of his size, and .5 because it makes me enjoy watching everyone else do it.
Overness: 10
I hate to say this, but I can't deny that.
Work rate: 2
"But Always450, why a two?" Well, the whole "quitting after being given everything all at once saying he only did it for the money and went to follow his dreams even though he wouldn't get paid as much as he'd like just to be cut from a team I don't give a damn about after WMXX" deal... Need I say more?
Politics: 0
Killing Internet Fans... Not good for pr.
Mic Skills: 4
And yes, the four points are not for him, they're for Heyman.

He gets 4.2, and some pennies if he comes to my house for halloween.

And no, the 4.2 is not being unfair. It's the avarage of all his other point. He should take what he has, be thankful, and then move to West Hollywood, and get a make over.

BigDaddyCool 09-15-2004 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always450
<font color=cyan>Ring ability: 7
He was just a big man. The only reason he got a 7, and not a 5 is he can botch a shooting star press... 1 point because he can do it, .5 because of his size, and .5 because it makes me enjoy watching everyone else do it.
Overness: 10
I hate to say this, but I can't deny that.
Work rate: 2
"But Always450, why a two?" Well, the whole "quitting after being given everything all at once saying he only did it for the money and went to follow his dreams even though he wouldn't get paid as much as he'd like just to be cut from a team I don't give a damn about after WMXX" deal... Need I say more?
Politics: 0
Killing Internet Fans... Not good for pr.
Mic Skills: 4
And yes, the four points are not for him, they're for Heyman.

He gets 4.2, and some pennies if he comes to my house for halloween.

And no, the 4.2 is not being unfair. It's the avarage of all his other point. He should take what he has, be thankful, and then move to West Hollywood, and get a make over.

</font>Naw, that is totally fair.

Loose Cannon 09-15-2004 02:12 AM

OK, Here on my 5 that I have been rating on

Wrestling ability: 9.5
Charisma: 8.5
Mic Work: 7.3
Crowd Reaction: 8.5
Work Rate: 9.2

Final: 8.5

DaveWadding 09-15-2004 02:17 AM

Fuck the damn ratings system.

7.5

also, it says SUGGEST not that you have to.

Mayo 09-15-2004 03:32 AM

Ring ability: 9.5
Overness: 9.5
Work rate: 9.5
Politics: 8
Mic skill: 6
Overall rank: 8.5

Kapoutman 09-15-2004 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Are you talking about mine?

Yes I am, BDC.

CosaNostra 09-15-2004 03:53 AM

Ring ability: 9.8 IMO, probably the closest to Angle
Overness: 7
Work rate: 8.5 Fairly Solid
Politics: 4 Internet? Rahhhhrrrrrrrr!
Mic skill: 4, which is why he works best with a manager talking
Overall rank: 6.6

Sephiroth 09-15-2004 04:32 AM

Ring Ability: 9

Overness: 9

Workrate: 8.5

Politics: 8

Mic Skills: 7
________________

Total: 8.6

LK 09-15-2004 05:09 AM

Ring ability: 9
Overness: 8.5
Work rate: 8.5
Politics: 8
Mic skill: 6
Overall rating of 8

Aussie Skier 09-15-2004 05:22 AM

Ring ability: 9 - I always liked his style, a bit reptitive i suppose (alwasys started with the shoulder to the gut.)

Overness: 10 - He was mega over! ever since his match with The Rock, people have recognised him

Work rate: 10 - worked his butt off

Politics: 7 - I heard he was shitty giving the title to eddie, so...yeah, oh well

Mic Skills: 5.5 - his voice is too high

Overall: 8.3

Funky Fly 09-15-2004 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
Fuck the damn ratings system.

7.5

also, it says SUGGEST not that you have to.

Use a rating system, you bastard.

DaveWadding 09-15-2004 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
Use a rating system, you bastard.

Too lazy. Plus, I know my shit :mad:

Xero 09-15-2004 08:18 AM

Ring ability: 9
Overness: 8
Work rate: 9
Politics: 7
Mic skill: 3
Overall rank: 7.2


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