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YOUR Hero 09-21-2004 11:45 PM

Odds to win the world series, baseball.
 
Have a look at these figures and tell me what you think.



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e9edf8><TD noWrap width=252>New York Yankees</TD><TD noWrap width=80>6/5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap width=252>Oakland Athletics </TD><TD noWrap width=80>8/1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap width=252>Atlanta Braves </TD><TD noWrap width=80>8/1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e9edf8><TD noWrap width=252>San Francisco Giants</TD><TD noWrap width=80>15/1</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap width=252>St. Louis Cardinals</TD><TD noWrap width=80>3/1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e9edf8><TD noWrap width=252>Anaheim Angels </TD><TD noWrap width=80>5/1</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap width=252>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD noWrap width=80>2/1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e9edf8><TD noWrap width=252 height=25>Houston Astros </TD><TD noWrap width=80 height=25>25/1</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap width=252>Los Angeles Dodgers</TD><TD noWrap width=80>9/2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap width=252>Minnesota Twins </TD><TD noWrap width=80>10/1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap width=252>Chicago Cubs </TD><TD noWrap width=80>6/1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=350 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e9edf8><TD noWrap width=252>Florida Marlins </TD><TD noWrap width=80>20/1</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap width=252>San Diego Padres</TD><TD noWrap width=80>6/1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Gonzo 09-21-2004 11:47 PM

Mets.. :(

The BoSox are looking quite good at the moment.

YOUR Hero 09-21-2004 11:54 PM

Well I just included teams still with a chance of making the playoffs.

Gonzo 09-21-2004 11:55 PM

Yeah, I'm expressing my sorrow.

But out of those teams, I say the BoSox and Cards are looking pretty nice right about now. Given they do have the best odds, that is probably the reason. :D

BCWWF 09-22-2004 12:08 AM

I'd say that those are pretty fucked up. The Yankee's 6/5? I'd say the Red Sox are the best bet in the AL right now, and I think 1/2 is even high for them. The Cardinals should be the clear cut favorite right now, they are underrated. The Angels probably won't make the playoffs and they are 1/5? Even more rediculous is the San Diego Padre's being 1/6.

As of right now, this is who I think has the best chance to win out of those teams:
St. Louis Cardinals
Boston Red Sox
LA Dodgers
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
Minnesota Twins
Oakland A's
Atlanta Braves
San Francisco Giants
Houston Astros
Anaheim Angels
Florida Marlins
San Diego Padres

The Twins have less of a chance to win than a team not even making the playoffs...

YOUR Hero 09-22-2004 12:13 AM

Once more teams are eliminated the odds would change, however a team like Anaheim is given good odds because of the offensive players they ahe, the great middle relief and closer they have... Thing is, they might not make the playoffs.

Look at the Marlins, once again not being given any consideration. Of course they probably won't make the playoffs, but look what happens when they do.

YOUR Hero 09-22-2004 12:15 AM

Yankees have the best odds to win BTW. Not the Red Sox.

BCWWF 09-22-2004 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Yankees have the best odds to win BTW. Not the Red Sox.

You're not referring to me are you? :?:

YOUR Hero 09-22-2004 12:21 AM

Nah Gonzo.

He said Red Sox then Cards were the best odds according to this stats I displayed.

BCWWF 09-22-2004 12:23 AM

OK, I thought I saw somebody say the wrong thing, but when I looked again I couldn't find it.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 09-22-2004 12:40 AM

Can the Red Sox just win it once in my lifetime please?

The Outlaw 09-22-2004 12:48 AM

The Sox got blasted by the Yanks. Don't see how you say they are the best in the AL right now.

YOUR Hero 09-22-2004 12:49 AM

I'd say they have a real good chance (again) this year.

BCWWF 09-22-2004 12:55 PM

They won 1-3, and on the overall scale are playing better than the Yankees in the past month and have much better pitching

Loose Cannon 09-22-2004 03:02 PM

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Everybody has just as good a chance to win as everyone else. Talking about Playoff teams. I hate odds.

BCWWF 09-22-2004 08:24 PM

The Dodgers are still the team that I could see surprising everybody. Not like it would be a huge surprise really, because they are obviously good, but I don't think they are widely accepted as a real threat for the World Series.

DaveWadding 09-22-2004 08:26 PM

LOL the Dodgers are awful. They might not even make the playoffs.

BCWWF 09-22-2004 08:59 PM

Just you wait Wadding :rant:

DaveWadding 09-22-2004 09:02 PM

fuck if the baseball Gods were smart these are the teams that will make the playoffs:

NLW: Giants
NLC: Cards
NLE: Braves
WC: Cubs

ALW: A's
ALC: Twins
ALE: Bankees
WC: Red Sox

RoXer 09-22-2004 09:26 PM

A's :cool:

The Miz 09-22-2004 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
LOL the Dodgers are awful. They might not even make the playoffs.

You're an idiot, not to mention a fat man.

DegenerationY 09-22-2004 11:39 PM

Dodgers aren't awful, but they are struggling hard right now. They're only 1 1/2 games ahead of the Giants in the west, with a lot of games left against them. Could spell trouble for them.

YOUR Hero 09-23-2004 12:43 AM

Giants? Come on. Why anyone thinks the baseball gods would put them in the playoffs is beyond me.

BCWWF 09-23-2004 02:37 AM

Whoa, whats happening to the Dodgers now? Only one game up in the West!

Apprentice 09-23-2004 02:59 AM

Its depressing. The starting pitching has been awful the last 2 weeks. Seriously, I thought they would run away after taking 2 from the Cards. They need to get production out of people other than Beltre and get some quality starts again. If not, this last week is going to be all too familiar to Dodger fans... :-\

DegenerationY 09-23-2004 03:18 AM

Brad Penny is injured again. Left with an arm injury early in the game tonight.

Giants are just a half game out now :cool:

Giants seem to be running on all cylanders. Our rookie pitcher Lowry only gave up one run against the Astros, who they are looking to sweep tomorrow. Lowry is 6-0 in his rookie season :love:

The Dodgers have lost I want to say 7 of their last 10 games. They peaked far too early. They have a decently tough schedule the rest of the way as well, and they can't really afford to lose too many more games.

They may be running themselves out of playoff contention :D :D

RoXer 09-23-2004 07:58 PM

A's :cool:

YOUR Hero 09-23-2004 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DegenerationY
Brad Penny is injured again. Left with an arm injury early in the game tonight.

Giants are just a half game out now :cool:

Giants seem to be running on all cylanders. Our rookie pitcher Lowry only gave up one run against the Astros, who they are looking to sweep tomorrow. Lowry is 6-0 in his rookie season :love:

The Dodgers have lost I want to say 7 of their last 10 games. They peaked far too early. They have a decently tough schedule the rest of the way as well, and they can't really afford to lose too many more games.

They may be running themselves out of playoff contention :D :D

I can't stand the Giants :(

I like-...ish... the Dodgers. Did you hear Shawn Greene is going to sit out "at least" one game VS the Giants, due to ....um... some Jewish religious holiday. I want to say Yom Kippur, but I don't know.

BCWWF 09-23-2004 10:21 PM

Yeah I think it is Yom Kippur (or however its spelled). I didn't even know he was Jewish, has he always done this?

Apprentice 09-23-2004 11:11 PM

Yea. I think so. He missed it a few years back to snap his 400+ game played streak. I think for the most part Yom Kippur's not during the season but it seems the season is steadily being pushed back a few weeks so now it does fall on it near the end of the season.

Apprentice 09-24-2004 02:52 AM

Lance Berkman is my new favorite player.

The Outlaw 09-24-2004 04:37 AM

Yeah he's missed like 5 games in the past 10 seasons so ya know, came as a shock.

He will sit out Saturday.

Molly fan 25 09-25-2004 03:48 AM

I think it will be the Yankee's. The Sox will probably fall apart in the playoffs, letting the Yankee's in the series. It won't be the Cardinals in the series either because they're an offensive powerhouse, and are a little lackluster on pitching which will hurt them in the playoffs allowing them to be beat in Game 7 of the second round.

The Outlaw 09-25-2004 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molly fan 25
I think it will be the Yankee's. The Sox will probably fall apart in the playoffs, letting the Yankee's in the series. It won't be the Cardinals in the series either because they're an offensive powerhouse, and are a little lackluster on pitching which will hurt them in the playoffs allowing them to be beat in Game 7 of the second round.

15-9 4.55

11-7 3.86

15-5 3.46

16-8 4.03

14-6 3.70

That is their 5 man starting rotation's stats. I don't consider that to be lackluster. Not the best but definately not bad.

Molly fan 25 09-25-2004 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Outlaw
15-9 4.55

11-7 3.86

15-5 3.46

16-8 4.03

14-6 3.70

That is their 5 man starting rotation's stats. I don't consider that to be lackluster. Not the best but definately not bad.

It's not bad but compare it to the Yankee's and the Red Sox bullpens. Remember both the Yankee's and the Red Sox are pitching teams, how well do you think a hitting team will do against a team that's good at pitching. Most playoff teams are pitching teams, it's just how it goes.

BCWWF 09-25-2004 03:58 PM

HAHAHAHAHA. The Yankee's are a pitching team? Both of those teams are offensive teams. When your lineup consists of A-Rod, Sheffield, Jeter, Giambi, Posada, Matsui, Williams, Olerud, Sierra etc, you are an offensive team. The Yankee's best pitcher will be the worst of the other three American League teams (Santana, Schilling, and Hudson). The Red Sox are all offense too. Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Johnny Damon, come on, thats rediculous.

The Cardinals have the most underrated pitching because dumbshits like people named "Molly Fan" are retarded. The only team with considerably better pitching than the Cardinals is the Dodgers, Jason Schmidt is all the Giants have and the Braves have a pretty similar lineup.

When your lineup has Renteria-Rolen-Pujols-Edmonds-Walker, you aren't the average offensive team. They won't get shut down in the playoffs by anybody. To beat them you are going to have to hope your pitcher pitches a gem and you can score a lot of runs.

Your name is Molly Fan. Kill yourself. Don't be afriad to rep me either, it will probably go up.

Molly fan 25 09-26-2004 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
HAHAHAHAHA. The Yankee's are a pitching team? Both of those teams are offensive teams. When your lineup consists of A-Rod, Sheffield, Jeter, Giambi, Posada, Matsui, Williams, Olerud, Sierra etc, you are an offensive team. The Yankee's best pitcher will be the worst of the other three American League teams (Santana, Schilling, and Hudson). The Red Sox are all offense too. Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Johnny Damon, come on, thats rediculous.

The Cardinals have the most underrated pitching because dumbshits like people named "Molly Fan" are retarded. The only team with considerably better pitching than the Cardinals is the Dodgers, Jason Schmidt is all the Giants have and the Braves have a pretty similar lineup.

When your lineup has Renteria-Rolen-Pujols-Edmonds-Walker, you aren't the average offensive team. They won't get shut down in the playoffs by anybody. To beat them you are going to have to hope your pitcher pitches a gem and you can score a lot of runs.

Your name is Molly Fan. Kill yourself. Don't be afriad to rep me either, it will probably go up.

The Yankee's have Brown and Hernandaz who are both good solid pitchers, they also have solid relief and closers.

The Red Sox have Martinez and Schilling as there top two pitchers both of which will be in the hall of fame someday.

While the Cardinals have young no name pitchers. Young pitchers if we all remember right young pitchers tend to fold in high pressure situations, especially against veteran teams (the other teams in the playoffs).

BCWWF 09-26-2004 03:00 AM

Young? Williams, Morris, and Carpenter aren't rookies FYI.

Pedro is over the hill now. He is still a good pitcher, but he doesn't dominate like he used to. He is one of my favorite all-time pitchers, but he will be outmatched by Radke is he plays him in the first round.

As for the Yankees, Hernandez is pitching real well and does in the playoffs usually too, but beyond that they are totally up in the air. Brown will pitch tomorrow, we'll see how he does, but knowing him he will be injured before the playoffs even start.

Neither team has bad pitched, don't get me wrong, but they are both offensive oriented teams now.

Quote:

Young pitchers if we all remember right young pitchers tend to fold in high pressure situations, especially against veteran teams (the other teams in the playoffs).
Yeah, that sucked when Josh Beckett and the Marlins lost to the veteran Yankees in the World Series last year. Or Jarrod Washburn and the Angels two years ago.

Molly fan 25 09-26-2004 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
Young? Williams, Morris, and Carpenter aren't rookies FYI.

Pedro is over the hill now. He is still a good pitcher, but he doesn't dominate like he used to. He is one of my favorite all-time pitchers, but he will be outmatched by Radke is he plays him in the first round.

As for the Yankees, Hernandez is pitching real well and does in the playoffs usually too, but beyond that they are totally up in the air. Brown will pitch tomorrow, we'll see how he does, but knowing him he will be injured before the playoffs even start.

Neither team has bad pitched, don't get me wrong, but they are both offensive oriented teams now.



Yeah, that sucked when Josh Beckett and the Marlins lost to the veteran Yankees in the World Series last year. Or Jarrod Washburn and the Angels two years ago.

Yeah and you're probably one of those idiots who think Babe Ruth was the greatest player in baseball history.

VonErich Lives 09-26-2004 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
I can't stand the Giants :(

I like-...ish... the Dodgers. Did you hear Shawn Greene is going to sit out "at least" one game VS the Giants, due to ....um... some Jewish religious holiday. I want to say Yom Kippur, but I don't know.

FYI - Sandy Koufax had it in his contract and I think may have even refused to pitch Friday nights during the sabbath.

I thought he did decide to play... I give people respect who feel their religion has importance over their job.

I mean, most the world has Xmas off... that's a religious holiday...


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