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The One 12-17-2004 11:35 AM

Elimination Chamber
 
...This is pointless...but I realised that Jericho and Hunter are now the only two men to be in all 3 of the E.C. Matches...

And since we already saw Hunter leave one of them as Champ...maybe...eh...no your right... :(

crash99 12-17-2004 11:37 AM

Poor Jericho.

Xero 12-17-2004 11:43 AM

I see one of two people walking out of the Chamber with the title. Triple H or Batista. Batista's being built up nicely, and although a bit early, I could see him beating Triple H and winning the title. Either way, I have a feeling that it will come down to Batista and Triple H in the final two, or one of them eliminating the other.

Azriel 12-17-2004 11:48 AM

Way, WAY too soon for Batista. he should win the IC title first.

V 12-17-2004 11:51 AM

well batista's had tag title runs with flair.

if jericho comes out of that thing as champ, everyone on this forum gets a positive rep

Azriel 12-17-2004 11:54 AM

He needs a nice long title run.

John la Rock 12-17-2004 12:10 PM

Triple H NEEDS to be champ going into Wrestlemania 21

The Naitch 12-17-2004 12:25 PM

poor Jericho

Azriel 12-17-2004 12:26 PM

I'm sure he doesn't mind though, at least he doesn't complain about it anyway.

The Naitch 12-17-2004 12:28 PM

you know all the anger and frustration is just bottled up inside :y:

The One 12-17-2004 12:34 PM

I can't wait until the day Jericho snaps, realises that he is rich now and dosn't really NEED to keep wrestling, shoots on Hunter in the middle of a World Title Match, makes Hunter tap, throws down the title belt, pisses on it on LIVE RAW TV, pays the $50,000 fine or whatever, and opens up Fozzy Wrestling Federation............ :shifty:

V 12-17-2004 01:13 PM

lol i always wondered that.

Has a wrestler close to being fired/quitting/contract ending ever done stupid things in a match? Like kick out of a finisher, or actually try making the guy tap out.. haha that would be hilarious

Shaggy 12-17-2004 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gohan3k
lol i always wondered that.

Has a wrestler close to being fired/quitting/contract ending ever done stupid things in a match? Like kick out of a finisher, or actually try making the guy tap out.. haha that would be hilarious


The only thing that I know about is that right before Jarrett had to fight Chyna in that house cleaning match or what ever it was that Jarrett had his last match in. His contract ended the day before so he refused to wrestle that night unless the WWE gave him alot of money.

Thats all I know about.

The Naitch 12-17-2004 01:20 PM

they'd probably be sued or something if they tried to pull a stunt right before their contract end. Like if Jericho did a shoot on Triple H, Jericho would be fucked. It's probably in writing somewhere

Shaggy 12-17-2004 01:31 PM

yea I bet its in there contracts or something like that. something along the lines of if they do this when they attempt to screw something up or injure someone when they know there contract is almost up that they can be sued or fines or something along those lines.

Ive never seen something like that on TV but at an Indy thing over here there was a hardcore match and one of the wrestlers accidently punched the other one full speed in the stomach and they just started beating the crap out of each other right there. Security broke it apart and ended the match right away. We all thought it was fake but later on we had dinner with one of the wrestlers and he said that it was all real and that because of what that other guy did he was never allowed to work with them again.

The One 12-17-2004 02:16 PM

Well...if our experience with Hardcore Holly has proven anything, it's that if you start to shoot on a wrestler it will cost $10,000...I am pretty sure Jericho could swing that.

Gouda 12-17-2004 02:20 PM

Bwahaha. Poll on WWE.com

Who do you LEAST want to see win the Elimination Chamber Match at New Year's Revolution?

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Batista 9.58 %
Chris Benoit 10.33 %
Chris Jericho 7.72 %
Edge 12.20 %
Randy Orton 29.47 %
Triple H 30.67 %

Total Votes: 55263

And Orton is supposed to be the number one babyface or something?

The Fugitive 12-17-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gohan3k
lol i always wondered that.

Has a wrestler close to being fired/quitting/contract ending ever done stupid things in a match? Like kick out of a finisher, or actually try making the guy tap out.. haha that would be hilarious

The only one that really comes to mind at this hour is William Regal (Lord Steven Regal, at the time) refusing to have an squash match with Goldberg (I don't blame him). Regal has an 'old-school' mentality to the business, and believed that Goldberg hadn't deserve this. Instead, he worked extremely stiff, and gave Goldberg extremely little offense in the match, but he did eventually job, but it tainted Goldberg's dominant monster run. Apparently, as soon as he walked through the curtains, he was fired.

I can't think of any other examples, but probably after a rest, I will remember some other incidents. Certain people are ringing bells in my head for their in-ring stupidity (Teddy Hart and Paul Roma). but I can't remember what exactly they did.

The Naitch 12-17-2004 03:24 PM

lol @ Regal

Mr. Nerfect 12-17-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouda
Bwahaha. Poll on WWE.com

Who do you LEAST want to see win the Elimination Chamber Match at New Year's Revolution?

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Batista 9.58 %
Chris Benoit 10.33 %
Chris Jericho 7.72 %
Edge 12.20 %
Randy Orton 29.47 %
Triple H 30.67 %

Total Votes: 55263

And Orton is supposed to be the number one babyface or something?

LOL! Hopefully this screams Jericho for now, and Batista for WrestleMania to the WWE.

Mr. JL 12-17-2004 06:32 PM

A part of me would like to see Batista walk away the World Heavuyweight Champion.

But the OTHER 99% of me wants the King of Bling BLING BABY to walk away the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. JL 12-17-2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouda
Bwahaha. Poll on WWE.com

Who do you LEAST want to see win the Elimination Chamber Match at New Year's Revolution?

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Batista 9.58 %
Chris Benoit 10.33 %
Chris Jericho 7.72 %
Edge 12.20 %
Randy Orton 29.47 %
Triple H 30.67 %

Total Votes: 55263

And Orton is supposed to be the number one babyface or something?

Yeah, Randy Orton does suck... as a face. When he was HEEL he was the MVP of the WWE. AND I wish someone would knock the Honky Tonk Man's IC reign out of the record books.

Mr. Nerfect 12-17-2004 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. JL
Yeah, Randy Orton does suck... as a face. When he was HEEL he was the MVP of the WWE. AND I wish someone would knock the Honky Tonk Man's IC reign out of the record books.

Orton would be great as a heel again. Just have him lay down for The Game at New Year's Revolution. Then have Randy Orton vs. Batista at the Royal Rumble, and Randy Orton vs. The Rock at WrestleMania.

Eunos 12-17-2004 09:21 PM

I noticed that to.

Let's see

3 Elimination Chamber match's

Competed in all 3
Triple H
Chris Jericho

Competed in 2 of 3
Shawn Michaels
Randy Orton

Competed in just the 1 of 3
Chris Benoit
Edge
Batista
Goldberg
Kevin Nash
Kane
Booker T
RVD.

Personally id rather not see Triple H win we will just be forever reminded how he has dominated these matches. Ah well.

Sepholio 12-17-2004 11:50 PM

I see Jericho winning the chamber match by eliminating Batista. Batista then wins the rumble to face Jericho at WMXXI. Batista beats Jericho clean for the title (HHH won't run in and help because he doesn't want Batista to win, but he doesn't interfere against him because Batista is in Evolution with him.) Then HHH comes out and shakes Batista's hand and all that and thanks him for bringing the title back to Evolution.

The next night on Raw, we see HHH demand that Batista lay down for him and give him his title back, and flair agrees, saying that HHH deserves to be champion because he is the game. After several unsuspected stars (Benoit, Orton, Jericho even) come by to try and convince Batista not to lay down to HHH, that he is the man now, we see Batista make his way to the ring in a depressed mood.

The match starts and HHH tells Batista to lay down, which he does, but as soon as the ref counts two, Batista rolls up HHH and gets the three count for the win. HHH then gets up shocked, and tries to punch Batista, who blocks it, and proceeds to whoop HHH's candy ass as Raw goes off the air...

Meh, I can dream.

Hired Hitman 12-18-2004 12:20 AM

I remember hearing something about Sid kicking out of Hogans leg drop, but I don't know if it has anything to do with contract ending or whatever.

Shadow 12-18-2004 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph
I see Jericho winning the chamber match by eliminating Batista. Batista then wins the rumble to face Jericho at WMXXI. Batista beats Jericho clean for the title (HHH won't run in and help because he doesn't want Batista to win, but he doesn't interfere against him because Batista is in Evolution with him.) Then HHH comes out and shakes Batista's hand and all that and thanks him for bringing the title back to Evolution.

The next night on Raw, we see HHH demand that Batista lay down for him and give him his title back, and flair agrees, saying that HHH deserves to be champion because he is the game. After several unsuspected stars (Benoit, Orton, Jericho even) come by to try and convince Batista not to lay down to HHH, that he is the man now, we see Batista make his way to the ring in a depressed mood.

The match starts and HHH tells Batista to lay down, which he does, but as soon as the ref counts two, Batista rolls up HHH and gets the three count for the win. HHH then gets up shocked, and tries to punch Batista, who blocks it, and proceeds to whoop HHH's candy ass as Raw goes off the air...

Meh, I can dream.


You and me both.

Kane Knight 12-18-2004 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
I can't wait until the day Jericho snaps, realises that he is rich now and dosn't really NEED to keep wrestling, shoots on Hunter in the middle of a World Title Match, makes Hunter tap, throws down the title belt, pisses on it on LIVE RAW TV, pays the $50,000 fine or whatever, and opens up Fozzy Wrestling Federation............ :shifty:

I'd pay to see that.

Kane Knight 12-18-2004 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy
yea I bet its in there contracts or something like that. something along the lines of if they do this when they attempt to screw something up or injure someone when they know there contract is almost up that they can be sued or fines or something along those lines.

Most wrestlers could be sued for breach of contract for such a thing.

Kane Knight 12-18-2004 01:13 AM

As far as Batista goes, if they did such a slow build and shot their wad here, I'd be pissed.

Gerard 12-18-2004 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hired Hitman
I remember hearing something about Sid kicking out of Hogans leg drop, but I don't know if it has anything to do with contract ending or whatever.


Papa shango was doing a run in but he was slow in getting to the ring so sid had to kick out of the legdrop to avoid the 3 count.

natureboycv 12-18-2004 12:25 PM

<font color=8307ff><b>It will probably end up with Jericho getting eliminated first. :(</font></b>

Boondock Saint 12-18-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
As far as Batista goes, if they did such a slow build and shot their wad here, I'd be pissed.


Mr. Nerfect 12-18-2004 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natureboycv
<font color=8307ff><b>It will probably end up with Jericho getting eliminated first. :(</font></b>

I hate to say it, but I think you're right. It's a shame, because IMO Jericho was the MVP of the original Chamber.

tucsonspeed6 12-18-2004 09:39 PM

Storyline wise, jericho doesn't even have a reason to be there. Batista's got gold glittering in his eyes, and he's struggling between taking it for himself or being loyal to HHH. HHH is nothing without his title and being the former champ wants it back. Orton got screwed by HHH and now that the title's up for grabs he's finally got the shot that he's been denied the past three months. Benoit is being labeled the best wrestler of the bunch, and the only reason he doesn't get the belt is because he keeps getting screwed. And Edge keeps going on about how he never even got a proper shot at the title.

But when did Jericho vocalize his desire for the belt? There are plenty of guys who have said more about the belt than Jericho did when the oppertunity came up. Maven gave up his chance to join Evolution so he could fight for the belt. Christian has said that there's only one belt left in his crosshairs. Hell, Stevie Richards took on five guys at once to get it. But when Jericho was the GM, he did nothing. He didn't even say, "We'll figure this out in a fatal four-way tonight." which was perfectly valid. Instead, he had his party and forgot about it.

Face it. The only reason Jericho's even in the match is because Management knows that he's a draw. If they mention him under their breath, we'll think that Jericho will get the title.

Of course, now that I've mentioned it, the writing team will probably give up on all of their current storylines and will give Jericho the belt, have HHH feud with Rick Flair, have Batista team up with edge to take the tag belts from Eugene and Mr. Socko, (his new partner, since the writers/bookers couldn't remember who his real partner was...) Evolution will be spelled "Evvolooshun" Shawn Michaels will show up to Smackdown for no reason and Raw's announcing team will be replaced with a talking RVD action figure....

In other words, don't count out all hope... Jericho might have been placed there for a reason. (But with RR coming up, don't count on it.)

Gouda 12-18-2004 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
Christian has said that there's only one belt left in his crosshairs.

When did he say that? WWE are making it out like the only title Christian cares about is the IC title for some reason.

I remember he said something before he was injured. Jericho said that after he was done with Christian he was going to set his eyes on the world title (and where did that go) and then Christian said that he was going to be the one moving on to the world title. Missed out on a chance to make these two real main event players there....

tucsonspeed6 12-19-2004 12:21 AM

It was a while back, but I remember his speech. It was the "Baby goes to sleep" speech. He was talking about how he has everything he wants except the world title. it's kinda reinforced by his Bio on WWE.com. (I like to read what the WWE releases from time to time because I think they leave hints to future storylines.)

Mr. Nerfect 12-20-2004 05:43 PM

Chris Jericho has a short history of being in matches for little obvious reason, and still doing well. The Undisputed Championship is the ebst example of this I can think of. Jericho won the tournament despite being the guy last on the list to win it. Basically Jericho's held the World Championship before, and now he wants that taste in his mouth again. The WWE probably won't give us more reason to cheer for Jericho than that, but I would put him above Benoit and Orton on my list as to who will win the Championship at NYR. Orton also has a good possibility, but they'd probably take the title of him quickly, which is something I'm not sure they'd want to do.

Mr. Nerfect 12-20-2004 05:49 PM

Chris Jericho has a short history of being in matches for little obvious reason, and still doing well. The Undisputed Championship is the ebst example of this I can think of. Jericho won the tournament despite being the guy last on the list to win it. Basically Jericho's held the World Championship before, and now he wants that taste in his mouth again. The WWE probably won't give us more reason to cheer for Jericho than that, but I would put him above Benoit and Orton on my list as to who will win the Championship at NYR. Orton also has a good possibility, but they'd probably take the title of him quickly, which is something I'm not sure they'd want to do.

Mike the Metal Ed 12-20-2004 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gohan3k
lol i always wondered that.

Has a wrestler close to being fired/quitting/contract ending ever done stupid things in a match? Like kick out of a finisher, or actually try making the guy tap out.. haha that would be hilarious

Were Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Chris Jericho's "I've had enough of this bullshit" rants in WCW shoots or scripted?


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