NFL offseason thread.
 

Didn't see one yet.

Anyway, the Pats have lost their O/C and D/C, Eric Mangini, is staying as DC. He's been with the team 5yrs, he was offered the same job with Miami suposivly for 800K and Cleveland for 700K and stayed with NE for around 500K.

I'm curious who will be the O/C, there's a rumor of Dante Scarnecchia, who is currently "assistand head coach" and OL Coach, Dante has been with the Pats over 20 years (just looked 21), which is interesting because as head coaches have come in gone, and owners, and gm's etc... he's stuck around. He's coached TE's, ST, OL, LB, and I might have missed a position or two, he was also "team spokesman" when Dick Macphearson was ill, and did all the press confrences for like 1/2 a season.

The Pats also have a few contracts to deal with.

They have some free agents on the OL, they need to restructure if they want to keep Law and if he wants to stay, there's also talk about redoing Bradys contract, Vinateri and possible Dillon.

Hey Trips (or other Jets fans),

I'm reading Lamont Jordon is an unrestricted free agent, I thought the Jets had him signed? If not, that's gonna be a tough call, do you give starter money to a guy who gets 1/4 of the plays... otherwise he'll get the starter money elsewhere.

Also, I read MSG wants to buy that site where they're going to build the Jets stadium, and put condos, that way they don't get any competition from the new stadium for events. The Gov is againast it cause he thinks with that stadium you'll get the Olympics.

<font color=goldenrod>I'm still having a hard time trying to decide what the Giants' priority should be. They have some serious O-Line problems, but then again, most of their O-Line men are young and will likely improve over time.

I'm prolly gonna have to go with WR. The fact that Hilliard and Toomer, their 2 main WRs, combined for a grand total of 0 TD passes is quite pathetic. Curious to see if the Giants try and trade up for a 1st round pick (since their probably won't be any notable WRs left by 2nd round).</font>

What are the Chargers going to do?

My guess, franchise tag breese and then trade him.

He'll get them more then Rivers will and they drafted Rivers with the confidence of the future.

can't see them keeping both, or Breese wanting that.

Side note, being reported Bledsoe has been demoted to backup and has asked the bills permission to seek a trade. I said last year he'll end up in Dallas with Parcells and Glenn.

Gus Ferrotte is looking for a team to start for

lol. How old is Gus Frerrotte?

I remember a couple seasons ago he came in and had a couple great games but come on. A starter?

Is Jeff George still on the Bears?

Sean Alexander to the Eagles

Eagles have a ton of cap room, would make sense they go after him or edge.

Both have Miami high on their list, but only one will endup there.

Eagles are in great shape to be back in the SB next year.

Wouldn't it be funny if Buffalo traded Bledsoe to Dallas for a 1st rd pick? You know the same one they traded to Dallas last year so they could draft Losman. It would be kinda weird if that happened, but i doubt Buffalo could get a first round pick for him.

I'm not so sure the Eagles need a superstar RB like Edge or Alexander. What would they do with Westbrook? I think they would be better off getting a better receiver to compliment T.O. Pinkston suck's ( probably alway's will be nothing more than a 3rd receiver), and it's obvious Freddie Mitchell can't back up his mouth. So i think they should get a better receiver to line up opposite T.O. Can you imagine how hard it would be to defend Philly's offence then?

yeah, I think they'll be lucky to get a 3rd rounder at this point.

I think they could do both between free agency and the draft.

The Eagles need a more runner than Westbrook.. Hell they get Alexander they can line Westbrook up as a reciever or have to running backs in the backfield.

I was shocked when I heard that the Eagles have a good chance at getting Shaun Alexander. That would almost be unfair. A top QB, a top WR, and arguable the best RB with Westbrook just messing things up aswell. The only problem I see with it is that I could see them losing some of their defensive perspective. Isn't their good LB a free agent? I forget his name, but the best one.

Name Pos Ht Wt Exp College Birth City
79 #Allen, Ian OT 6-4 310 3 Purdue Atlanta, GA
36 #Westbrook, Brian RB/KR 5-10 205 3 Villanova Ft. Washington, MD
90 **Simon, Corey DT 6-2 293 5 Florida State Pompano Beach, FL
57 *Adams, Keith LB 5-11 223 4 Clemson Atlanta, GA
11 *Blake, Jeff QB 6-1 223 13 East Carolina Daytona Beach, Fla.
28 *Buckhalter, Correll RB 6-0 222 4 Nebraska Collins, MS
56 *Burgess, Derrick DE 6-2 266 4 Mississippi Greenbelt, MD
53 *Douglas, Hugh DE 6-2 281 10 Central State (Ohio) Mansfield, OH
25 *Levens, Dorsey RB 6-1 230 11 Georgia Tech Syracuse, NY
89 *Lewis, Chad TE 6-6 252 7 Brigham Young Orem, UT
71 *Mayberry, Jermane G/T 6-4 325 9 Texas A&M-Kingsville Floresville, TX
58 *Reese, Ike LB 6-2 222 7 Michigan State Cincinnati, OH
48 *Ritchie, Jon FB 6-2 250 7 Stanford Mechanicsburg, PA
54 *Trotter, Jeremiah LB 6-1 262 7 Stephen F. Austin Hooks, TX

*Denotes Unrestricted Free Agent
**Designates Franchise Tag
#Denotes Restricted Free Agent

The players they will resign are Westbrook, Trotter, Ritchie, and Burgess. Those to me are the players they HAVE to resign. Then you have players like Mayberry, Buckhalter, and Chad Lewis. We have a good offenseive line already loosing Mayberry would hurt but nothing drastic, Buckhalter was out for the whole season and is hard to tell if they will resign, and LJ Smith is going to be huge in the future so Chad Lewis may not be an Eagle.

I think they will have enough cap room from between resigning the players and acquiring maybe a Sean Alexander.

By the way BCWWF the linebacker you were talking about was Trotter

Yeah it was

I bet Trotter will resign long-term for a low price, because he realizes he can't succeed without the Iggles. But then, if the Vikings could get him THAT WOULD BE HOT. But like I said... Eagles pretty much told him they don't need him, so he left, sucked, came back like a bitch, they took him back and put him in the pro bowl. Pretty great.

Two things: 1) I'm sick of the Moss trade talk. ESPN has no sources but they keep claiming Moss wants out and the Vikings want out. A childhood Moss friend claimed Moss demanded a trade, but on the radio Moss said he would be hurt if he was traded. COME ON. On the other hand, it looks like Culpepper's competitive nature is leaning towards wishing Moss was traded. Either way, ESPN is a piece of trash, and instead of retracting what they said, they appended it. If Red McCombs has been in meetings for the last month, how could he possibly have made arrangements to have Moss traded? It's pathetic.

Mort wants him in Atlanta, and the NFL wants him in Baltimore, which is why they were almost upset over the TO incident, but happy that he landed in Philly.

But either way, wtf, Moss better stay :mad:

WTF have you been Alphabean? I have been saying the same thing and people just stick to their ESPN like its the gospel still

Vikings will never win a Superbowl with Randy Moss

Or without him.

Mike Tice had Moss under control, but he lost it. Moss needs a better coach to keep his head in the game. The less control Tice had over his team, the less control he had over Randy Moss, which led to Moss finally just giving up on the team.

Oh and hey Stima, I know you're an NFL hopeful and all, but you're kind of an idiot to think that Randy Moss was responsible for no running game, poor clock management and absolutely no defense.

What? What? Randy Moss should play cornerback?

Also, Randy Moss is a big cancer for the Vikings. How dare he get injured, what the fuck. A true star would never get injured. :|

Welcome back Alphabean, I notice you have stayed away from the NBA threads this year tho???


Also, just kind of interesting...Randy Moss is ranked as the third best NFL player by scouts, behind Payton Manning and Ray Lewis. Here is what the summary on him is.

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I can't bear to watch the Wolves anymore. Fairweather fan? Come on. It's not like we're rebuilding. This is just disgusting.

But yeah, Moss is the greatest player of all time.

At Rajah's, Wedge argued that the only trade the Ravens should make would be Moss for Adalius Thomas straight up due to Moss's baggage. That was hilarious.

Ray Lewis has lost a step and his best years are behind him, and Wedge argued that Moss's baggage make him far less valuable than Ray.

Ray is rated 98 by scouts and Moss 97 by scouts, but I think that as one player Moss affects more then Ray.

What? Way too totally over analyze what I said you spaz

I just don't think the current Vikings team has a shot at winning the Superbowl, I think the Vikings keep the same team they have now and don't do a complete over haul then they will never win it all. They aren't going to trade Culpepper, and what other marquee guy can they get rid of to try to shake things up other then Moss? Big play wideouts don't win games, consistant offenses and defenses do. I think Moss would be even better under a different style, Tice is a terrible head coach. I really think it would be a win/win situation for all those involded. Vikings would get a lot for Moss.

Hey Cmon! leave Gus out of this haha. I live in same town as him. Oh well biggest thing from our town is known for running his head into a wall... :|

LOL that's the only reason anybody considers him a cancer too right?

Here's a nice rap lyric for you

"I'm like Randy Moss/I play when I wanna"

Vikings had one of the lowest team salaries last season, and were forced by the NFL to spend a lot of it, so what did they do? They signed Winfield for like 13 mil the first year, and 2 mil for the next 5 years or something like this, just to fit OVER THE MINIMUM! Red McCombs is doing to the Vikings what Carl Pohlad is doing to the Twins. Forcing them to win with minimal expenditure.

On one hand, we could spend money on a few marquee defenders in free agency, and on the other hand, I think another year under Cottrell will make the current defenders a lot better. Because, basically, they're all young and stupid, and Ted Cottrell was trying to get them to do complex defenses, which is impossible unless you've got the Patriots linebackers. Our linebackers were out of position on nearly every play.

But we can get better without trading Moss. ESPECIALLY if Glen Taylor buys the team. He way overspent to get the Wolves competitive. Though that backfired this year, I guess. :'(. But at least he'll allow Tice and Bryzinski to spend a little bit of that cap room to get someone good.

Draft a 1: NT 2: CB 3: GUARD 4: LB 5: CB 6: OT 7:... who cares. 7th rounders always suck.

But we should throw a Kicker in the mix up there somewhere.

Pick up a safety in free agency, maybe a nice run-defending MLB or something. DUNNO. Mike Tice is the biggest piece of shit ever.

But I do not want Moss to leave, and I know that we could win with him here. But... not with Tice here. :mad:

Where does Gus live?


And I disagree with Stima. We had one of the most potent offenses in the league when Moss was healthy, and we still had two starting O-linemen out. The reason we lost so many games is because the defense could not stop anything. There were like five games that we lost on the final drive :mad: Cris Hovan lost his energy, but if Kenechi Udeze stays healthy, him and Kevin Williams will be the foundation to a great D-line in the future. Chris Claiborne would be a good OLB, but he isn't good when he is the main guy. That is why the Vikings will likely address that issue this offseason with all of their salary cap. Corey Chavous and Brian Russell aren't great, but Chavous is pretty good and will be good enough to stay. Antoine Winfield was spectacular while he wasn't injured, and Sid Hartman reports that the Vikings plan to sign another defensive player of his caliber. It looks likely that they will draft DT Shaun Cody out of USC, sign a MLB and a DB, and the defense will be improved A LOT next season, and the whole offense will be intact assuming Moss or Bennett isn't traded. On the issue of Bennett or Onterrio, one of them will likely be traded, and that could bring in a defensive starter, maybe Woodson from Oakland or something. Keep your eyes out. If they make the right moves on defense they will be right up there with the Eagles next season...hopefully.

*Double chokeslam by Alphabean and BCWWF*

Even though Alphabean had a much better explanation and more realistic analysis, we rule!

He gets triple teamed on every play. At 100 pounds soaking wet he has to fight through Al Harris pass interference constantly. And any time a run is called to his side, he always blocks his man as best as he can.

He said that statement a few years ago, and realized that while he does "play when he wants to," he needs to "want to" a lot more than he used to. So I only saw him let up this season when he had been going at 100% for an extended period of time, or was injured.

And don't even mention the Redskins game. 2 seconds left, an onside kick attempt. Was it wrong? Sure, for "morale" reasons, but he was justified in doing it. The Vikings should have won that game. They should have won a lot more games than they did.

Also, the mooning thing was awesome.

On paper, unfortunately.

We're still left with Mike Tice. :(

HOWEVER, Pep has a chip on his shoulder, and is going to beat the shit out of our team, hopefully that will give them some heart. He was pissed this year. He's gonna start beating some ass next season. Like destroying his own players and shit. Him and Birk, gonna keep the locker room in check. :love:

My friend saw Birk driving by our houses the other day.

I had to drive my parents to the airport this morning, so I was listening to talk radio the night right after Moss did a call in interview to KFAN and discussed the walk off. What it all comes down to, is that Moss saw 2 seconds left, onsides kick, ok, so he starts walking off expecting it to happen, but it took longer then expected so he was caught in a really dirty situation. I am not condoning it, but I don't think it affected the team as much as it was made out to be.

Moss seems like a good kid. He just needs some lovin'.

If you want to see Birk, go to the Chipotle by his gym. He eats there practically every day. Seen him in there twice so far. I should start going to his gym and eating at that Chipotle all the time, then I will be a big offensive lineman AND FRIENDS WITH MATT BIRK.

Well, McCombs is no longer a problem. Team is being sold, new owner has money and is the first black owner in the NFL. I'd expect him to spend a lot of money, top coach, gm, star players etc...

Imagine Pepper throwing to Moss and Burress w/ Edge in the backfield...