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darkpower 02-15-2005 04:11 AM

Earl Hebner needs to retire
 
I know, we don't talk much about the referees in these boards, but last night I noticed that Earl Hebner has been there FOREVER, and any match that he's refereeing have gotten so predictable it's not funny.

This is because he can hardly come snapping up after a two count like some of the other referees do, and he's rather lazy at counting the near falls, and looks more and more tired the more I see him.

The role of the referee is to make the matches believable and realistic, and anything that has Earl Hebner as ref anymore isn't believable because he too much of a snail doing anything anymore. I'm thinking he should retire. Disagree with me if you must, but I think this time, the ref should be the one to be discussed.

Pegasus Crawford 02-15-2005 05:46 AM

Not to mention every match I see him in has him getting "knocked out" at some point during the match. :|

Lord-Of-Darkness 02-15-2005 06:41 AM

he is retiring after Wrestlemania 21

Aussie Skier 02-15-2005 06:59 AM

Earl Hebner is the man!

In all honesty, him and the fink, both deserve to be in the hall of fame one day!

M. Banana 02-15-2005 07:38 AM

He is "the man" But look how long he's been around! Isn't like.. his whole family referring now? Brian Hebner.. for instance.

Dave Youell 02-15-2005 07:44 AM

Earl has done a great job, leave him alone. he'll do the mania main event and leave in style

Funky Fly 02-15-2005 07:54 AM

I respect his work, but I will always hate him for... Montreal. :'(

Funky Fly 02-15-2005 07:54 AM

You broke my heart, Earl. :'(

Hired Hitman 02-15-2005 08:53 AM

He was only doing his Job :rant:

Hired Hitman 02-15-2005 08:54 AM

Just like Bret Hart.




*Heel Heat*

Jacko 02-15-2005 09:14 AM

EARL, EARL, EARl, EARL

Pepsi Man 02-15-2005 10:02 AM

I wouldn't call him lazy or say that him not "snapping up" like other referees hurts him. Granted, if I had to pick my favorite referee, it would be Timmy White, who seemingly just doesn't referee anymore, but Hebner's pretty cool too.

Hired Hitman 02-15-2005 11:26 AM

I like mike cheoda (sp? :$)

Pepsi Man 02-15-2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hired Hitman
I like mike cheoda (sp? :$)

I am personally not a fan of Chioda. Jack Doan's pretty cool though.

Kane Knight 02-15-2005 11:43 AM

Retire? Naw. Just frozen for later generations to revive and laugh at.

BigDaddyCool 02-15-2005 12:03 PM

Whatever, Nick Patrick is better.

BCWWF 02-15-2005 12:44 PM

I remember when Hebner was involved in storylines for a while. Wasn't his job in jeopardy if he didn't count somebody out or something?

Pepsi Man 02-15-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Whatever, Nick Patrick is better.

Nick Patrick and WCW referees in general blew, but as far as getting heel heat, Patrick can get the job done.

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2005 01:23 PM

I don't mind Charles Robinson. He's got an interesting look.

I do like Mike Chiota as well, and pretty much every other referee in the WWE. I sort of like the way Earl Hebner is relaxed in there. It makes him seem so seasoned.

Azriel 02-15-2005 01:48 PM

Gotta love "Little Naitch" :lol:

darkpower 02-15-2005 06:17 PM

Hmm..

Who was the referee who "humped the canvas" everytime he counted a guy's shoulders down? Not sure who the guy was, or what happened to him.

Loose Cannon 02-15-2005 06:21 PM

How many times did Earl screw someone in a match?

TWICE.

Name the other guy that's not Bret Hart?

James Steele 02-15-2005 06:36 PM

Nick Patrick at InVasion? :lol:

Disturbed316 02-15-2005 06:36 PM

Jericho
Rock

McLegend 02-15-2005 06:37 PM

Brian Pillman

The Fugitive 02-15-2005 06:50 PM

Pretty sure it was Mankind, not The Rock or Jericho.

Loose Cannon 02-15-2005 07:10 PM

HINT: Babyface refs don't screw guys, except for out of story. But this is within a storyline.

ANOTHER HINT: He got booed when he "screwed" this person.

Aussie Skier 02-15-2005 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
I wouldn't call him lazy or say that him not "snapping up" like other referees hurts him. Granted, if I had to pick my favorite referee, it would be Timmy White, who seemingly just doesn't referee anymore, but Hebner's pretty cool too.

Tim White is STILL injured I believe...from the Jericho-HHH match (I think), when Jericho threw him into the cage.

Tim White is good tho, i remember when hewas dancing with the godfather's hoes once and got really into it :D

Aussie Skier 02-15-2005 07:31 PM

I like Chioda, he takes bumps the best, and he counts when ppl are down really loud, to help get the crowd involved. Little Hebner is good too, i like how he flees the ring wheneva taker turns around and looks at him :D

I also like Jim (i think its Jim) Khordaris. He's cool and he (and Tony Chimel) waved when i called out to them at the melbourne house show

Pepsi Man 02-16-2005 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
How many times did Earl screw someone in a match?

TWICE.

Name the other guy that's not Bret Hart?

Triple H.

Actually, reading your other hint, it's at least three. I know he wasn't booed when he screwed Triple H, since Triple H was a heel at the time...

Unless you're talking about Hulk Hogan. Yeah, you're talking about the infamous twin Hebners debacle.

Pepsi Man 02-16-2005 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie_Skier
Tim White is STILL injured I believe...from the Jericho-HHH match (I think), when Jericho threw him into the cage.

Tim White is good tho, i remember when hewas dancing with the godfather's hoes once and got really into it :D

Well Timmy came back at Mania XX and refereed Jericho vs. Christian. He shouldn't "still" be injured, based on a conversation I had with him in 2003 though. If anything, he could've reaggrivated it.

Corkscrewed 02-16-2005 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Triple H.

Actually, reading your other hint, it's at least three. I know he wasn't booed when he screwed Triple H, since Triple H was a heel at the time...

Unless you're talking about Hulk Hogan. Yeah, you're talking about the infamous twin Hebners debacle.

Ha! I was gonna say HHH, even though I know LC wasn't referring to that one. Too bad his decision got overturned, and Jericho was denied the title. :'(

Loose Cannon 02-16-2005 09:55 AM

YES, Pepsi Man is right. Hulk Hogan got screwed by Hebner, leading to Andre winning the World Title before Mania 4.

Personally, I classify the HHH thing as payback rather then a screwjob.

Loose Cannon 02-16-2005 09:59 AM

BTW: Here's another one and Pepsi Man can't answer. What kind of a "finish" is the Jericho/HHH fiasco refered to as in wrestling?

In other words, that finish has been done before and it has a certain name in the world of pro wrestling.

Mike the Metal Ed 02-16-2005 11:06 AM

Isn't it a "dusty" finsish, after Dusty Rhodes?

John la Rock 02-16-2005 02:00 PM

a fast count?

Loose Cannon 02-16-2005 02:21 PM

oh, HardKore got it. Forgot to reply before.

Savio 02-16-2005 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
YES, Pepsi Man is right. Hulk Hogan got screwed by Hebner, leading to Andre winning the World Title before Mania 4.

Personally, I classify the HHH thing as payback rather then a screwjob.

No Ted Diabasie payed some one to get plastic surgery to look like Hebner.

Loose Cannon 02-16-2005 03:04 PM

lol, you look that up? :lol:

TWINS.

Azriel 02-16-2005 03:26 PM

So Hebner was a heel? Thats cool.


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