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I-Hate-You 02-19-2005 06:24 PM

JBL Reaches Milestone - 2nd Longest Reign As WWE Champion
 
John Bradshaw Layfield has now become the second-longest longest reigning WWE Champion since the 358 day WWE Championship reign of Diesel from November 26th, 1994 to November 19th, 1995. As of February 14th, JBL has now surpassed Shawn Michaels' original title reign of 231 days from March 31st, 1996 to November 17th, 1996.

JBL will begin his 8th month as WWE Champion on February 27th, considering he retains the championship at No Way Out in the Barbed Wire Steel Cage match against The Big Show, which he will more than likely do barring a complete booking 180.

Assuming JBL holds on to the title until WrestleMania 21 on April 3rd where he is likely to drop the title to John Cena, here is where JBL's reign would rank among WWE Title reigns since Diesel's.

Diesel
-- November 26th, 1994 to November 19th, 1995 = 358 days

John Bradshaw Layfield
-- June 28th, 2004 to April 3rd, 2005 = 279 days

Shawn Michaels
-- March 31st, 1996 to November 17th, 1996 = 231 days

Stone Cold Steve Austin
-- April 1st, 2001 to September 23rd, 2001 = 175 Days

Brock Lesnar
-- September 16th, 2003 to February 15th, 2004 = 152 Days

Shawn Michaels
-- November 9th, 1997 to March 29th, 1998 = 141 Days

Bret Hart
-- November 19th, 1995 to March 31st, 1996 = 133 Days

The Undertaker
-- March 23rd, 1997 to August 3rd, 1997 = 133 Days

Eddie Guerrero
-- February 15th, 2004 to June 27th, 2004 = 133 Days

Kurt Angle
-- October 22nd, 2000 to February 25th, 2001 = 126 Days

The Rock
-- June 25th, 2000 to October 22nd, 2000 = 119 Days

Brock Lesnar
-- March 30th, 2003 to July 27th, 2003 = 119 Days

Triple H
-- January 3rd, 2000 to April 30th, 2000 = 118 Days

Kurt Angle
-- December 15th, 2002 to March 30th, 2003 = 105 Days

Chris Jericho
-- December 9th, 2001 to March 17th, 2002 = 99 Days

Bret Hart
-- August 3rd, 1997 to November 9th, 1997 = 98 Days

Stone Cold Steve Austin
-- March 29th, 1998 to June 28th, 1998 = 91 Days

Stone Cold Steve Austin
-- June 29th, 1998 to September 27th, 1998 = 90 Days

Brock Lesnar
-- August 25th, 2002 to November 17th, 2002 = 84 Days

Sid
-- November 17th, 1996 to January 19th, 1997 = 63 Days

The Undertaker
-- May 19th, 2002 to July 21st, 2002 = 63 Days

Stone Cold Steve Austin
-- October 8th, 2001 to December 9th, 2001 = 62 Days

Stone Cold Steve Austin
-- March 28th, 1999 to May 23rd, 1999 = 57 Days

Stone Cold Steve Austin
-- June 28th, 1999 to August 22nd 1999 = 55 Days

Kurt Angle
-- July 27th, 2003 to September 16th, 2003 = 51 Days

The Big Show
-- November 14th, 1999 to January 3rd, 2000 = 50 Days

Triple H
-- September 26th, 1999 to November 14th, 1999 = 49 Days

The Rock
-- November 15th, 1998 to December 29th, 1998 = 44 Days

The Rock
-- February 15th, 1999 to March 28th, 1999 = 41 Days

The Undertaker
-- May 23rd, 1999 to June 28th, 1999 = 36 Days

Triple H
-- May 21st, 2000 to June 25th, 2000 = 35 Days

The Rock
-- February 25th, 2001 to April 1st, 2001 = 35 Days

Triple H
-- March 17th, 2002 to April 21st, 2002 = 35 Days

The Rock
-- July 21st, 2002 to August 25th, 2002 = 35 Days

Sid
-- February 17th, 1997 to March 23rd, 1997 = 34 Days

The Big Show
-- November 17th, 2002 to December 15th, 2002 = 29 Days

Hulk Hogan
-- April 21st, 2002 to May 19th, 2002 = 28 Days

Mankind
-- December 29th, 1998 to January 24th, 1999 = 26 Days

Shawn Michaels
-- January 19th, 1997 to February 13th, 1997 = 25 Days

The Rock
-- April 30th, 2000 to May 21st, 2000 = 22 Days

Triple H
-- August 23rd, 1999 to September 14th, 1999 = 22 Days

Mankind
-- January 26th, 1999 to February 15th, 1999 = 20 Days

Kurt Angle
-- September 23rd, 2001 to October 8th, 2001 = 15 Days

Vince McMahon
-- September 14th, 1999 to September 20th, 1999 = 6 Days

The Rock
-- January 24th, 1999 to January 26th, 1999 = 2 Days

Bret Hart
-- February 16th, 1997 to February 17th, 1997 = 1 Day

Kane
-- June 27th, 1998 to June 28th, 1998 = 1 Day

Mankind
-- August 22nd, 1999 to August 23rd, 1999 = 1 Day

Gonzo 02-19-2005 06:30 PM

Kane :cool:

Loose Cannon 02-19-2005 06:32 PM

And who is the worst drawing champion of all-time since Diesal.

Yep, you guessed it. :y:

Loose Cannon 02-19-2005 06:33 PM

lol, the 3 worst drawing champion runs of all-time are a top the list.

Gouda 02-19-2005 06:33 PM

Sssssh. Triple H might get wind of this and attempt to beat this record too.

I-Hate-You 02-19-2005 06:48 PM

Well, he sort of has with the World Title (Demcember to September), so...

Evolution 02-19-2005 07:02 PM

Where's Jericho's 3 minute reign when he beat HHH on RAW? I need a date on that one cos I cant find my RAW X mag.

Anyways, erm, nice post, lot of time and effort. :y:

Rep for you.

Eunos 02-19-2005 07:16 PM

Bradshaws overrated ¬¬..

It's his Promos and Gimmick that have been saving him.

Kane Knight 02-19-2005 07:22 PM

And such a quality title reign, too.

#1-norm-fan 02-19-2005 07:40 PM

He's done a good job as champion.

Booking-wise though, just terrible.

I like JBL but fuck him for surpassing HBK in ANYTHING. :mad:

Kane Knight 02-19-2005 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
He's done a good job as champion.

Booking-wise though, just terrible.

I like JBL but fuck him for surpassing HBK in ANYTHING. :mad:

He surpassed HBK for shittiest title reign.

He's not done a good job as champion. He's done a decent job at promos with no in ring ability.

#1-norm-fan 02-19-2005 07:48 PM

HBK's title reign was GREAT.

PorkSoda 02-19-2005 08:12 PM

Should he hold onto the title for one full year?

I-Hate-You 02-19-2005 08:16 PM

Well, the way it's went at WM is one champion loses, the other doesn't.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Eunos 02-19-2005 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorkSoda
Should he hold onto the title for one full year?

No

Next Dumb Question.

PorkSoda 02-19-2005 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eunos
No

Next Dumb Question.

Why is the sky blue?

Corkscrewed 02-19-2005 09:20 PM

Yet another shred of proof that the writers have resorted to forcing "greatness" down our throats. They're only keeping the belt on him for this long to make us believe he's great. Well, to make those dumb enough to be fooled by such trivialties anyway. But when you really look at "how," JBL's solid reign only dates back to December, when he actually got a "credible" win.

So never mind that 2/3 of JBL's reign has been worse than that of a Cruiserweight Champ... JBL's the Greatest of All Time because he's been around so long, eh writers?

Kane Knight 02-19-2005 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
HBK's title reign was GREAT.

And JBL's was shittier. Are you going to complain that HBK's wasn't shitty enough?

PullMyFinger 02-19-2005 09:32 PM

HBKs reign resulted in shite ratings, shite storyline, shite everything. WCW was kicking WWF's ass when the company was centered around Michaels.

The Answer 02-19-2005 09:43 PM

:n: One of the reasons why Smackdown is pretty terrible compared to Raw

Kane Knight 02-19-2005 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed
Yet another shred of proof that the writers have resorted to forcing "greatness" down our throats. They're only keeping the belt on him for this long to make us believe he's great. Well, to make those dumb enough to be fooled by such trivialties anyway. But when you really look at "how," JBL's solid reign only dates back to December, when he actually got a "credible" win.

So never mind that 2/3 of JBL's reign has been worse than that of a Cruiserweight Champ... JBL's the Greatest of All Time because he's been around so long, eh writers?

Never mind that he got along with the same weak finishes either. Or the Overused "Shannon Moore" card.

mike627 02-19-2005 10:37 PM

BJL's title reign just proves that kissin ass works wonders even if you have little or no talent. :foc: :nono:

MVP 02-19-2005 11:03 PM

The top of that list really proves how meaningless a prolonged title reign can be.

Esoteric 02-19-2005 11:06 PM

somehow i think that list is wrong
Bret Hart New York Wrestlemania X - March, 20, 1994
Bob Backlund San Antonio Survivor Series - Novemeber 23, 1994
so in theory Bret should in the 3rd postion another example of them trying to screw Bret

McLegend 02-19-2005 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esoteric
somehow i think that list is wrong
Bret Hart New York Wrestlemania X - March, 20, 1994
Bob Backlund San Antonio Survivor Series - Novemeber 23, 1994
so in theory Bret should in the 3rd postion another example of them trying to screw Bret

If you notice it says 2nd longest title range SINCE Nash's reign. So the list isn't all time longest title reign it's since Nash long title reign.

Esoteric 02-19-2005 11:18 PM

yeah i just realized that....top three sucks even as a kid i thought shawn michaels was a good champion

V 02-19-2005 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evolution
Where's Jericho's 3 minute reign when he beat HHH on RAW? I need a date on that one cos I cant find my RAW X mag.

Anyways, erm, nice post, lot of time and effort. :y:

Rep for you.

if that's counted as a reign, shouldn't RVD's 1 minute reign be counted when he beat undertaker before flair reversed the decision

V 02-19-2005 11:24 PM

also, how is it the second longest reign, why is diesal's reign a start point?

what about when the first few title holders held it for years?

Kane Knight 02-19-2005 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gohan3k
also, how is it the second longest reign, why is diesal's reign a start point?

what about when the first few title holders held it for years?

BEcause they're trying to illustrate recent history?

BlackDawn2024 02-20-2005 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
I like JBL but fuck him for surpassing HBK in ANYTHING. :mad:

:rofl:

That gave me good chuckle.

Disturbed316 02-20-2005 01:47 PM

What about Bob Backland, didn't he hold it for 8 years or something?

hithit 02-20-2005 02:55 PM

I am actually starting to enjoy JBL as champ, but i really don't think he should have this long of a title reign. I really hope he doesn't last a year as champ, i just don't think he is good enough to have that long of a run.

Deceit 02-20-2005 04:00 PM

Almost 300 days and still 0 credibility!

McLegend 02-20-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disturbed316
What about Bob Backland, didn't he hold it for 8 years or something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
If you notice it says 2nd longest title range SINCE Nash's reign. So the list isn't all time longest title reign it's since Nash long title reign.


#1-norm-fan 02-20-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greendaypez
HBKs reign resulted in shite ratings, shite storyline, shite everything. WCW was kicking WWF's ass when the company was centered around Michaels.

Just because HBK's title reign happened to conflict with the birth of the NWO and WCW's uprising doesn't mean HBK's title reing was not a great one. Too many new fans didn't care about WRESTLING in '96. Those days were pretty much gone. As far as WRESTLING goes, HBK's title reing was brilliant.

If you're going to bash JBL's reign because he doesn't put on good wrestling matches with clean finishes, then you can't ignore the same factors when judging Michael's reign.

During his 8 month reign, he had two great defenses against the British Bulldog, an entertaining match with Vader following a great 2 month feud and a match with Mick Foley that Mick calls one of the best matches he's ever had. Not to mention the fact that his title reign began at WM XXII in one of the greatest matches of all time.

Innovator 02-20-2005 04:36 PM

Bruno Sammartino, 8 year title reign anyone?

The CyNick 02-20-2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
Just because HBK's title reign happened to conflict with the birth of the NWO and WCW's uprising doesn't mean HBK's title reing was not a great one. Too many new fans didn't care about WRESTLING in '96. Those days were pretty much gone. As far as WRESTLING goes, HBK's title reing was brilliant.

If you're going to bash JBL's reign because he doesn't put on good wrestling matches with clean finishes, then you can't ignore the same factors when judging Michael's reign.

During his 8 month reign, he had two great defenses against the British Bulldog, an entertaining match with Vader following a great 2 month feud and a match with Mick Foley that Mick calls one of the best matches he's ever had. Not to mention the fact that his title reign began at WM XXII in one of the greatest matches of all time.

HBK was never a draw, it had nothing to do with the NWO and so on. HBK's big title win at Mania featured people walking out on his title win, a feat duplicated by his Kliq buddy 6 years later.

He did have some great matches during his run, so its just a matter of how you view success. In the ring; good run, out of the ring; terrible.

Nash's was worse than all of them though.

Marcyo 02-20-2005 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
Bruno Sammartino, 8 year title reign anyone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
If you notice it says 2nd longest title range SINCE Nash's reign. So the list isn't all time longest title reign it's since Nash long title reign.

#1-norm-fan 02-20-2005 09:52 PM

Well I would judge his title reign based soley on quality of title defenses and how much credibility was brought to the title during his reing.

Howvever, The ratings during Bret's run didn't change at all during Michael's 8 months. He was the fan favorite going into WM 12 based on crowd reaction alone.

So again, if you're going to be fair and use the same principles to judge all title reigns, then Bret's wasn't good either and, if anything, was worse than Michael's.

Kane Knight 02-20-2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
Bruno Sammartino, 8 year title reign anyone?

Literacy, anyone?


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