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VJW 03-22-2005 08:26 PM

Who has dissapointed you the most?
 
I've got to go with Randy Orton since I was hoping that he'd be or at least come close to being the next Rock or Brock. I think they took him out of Evolution much to quickly. They should have done something like they did with Batista. Show a few arguments and eventually have him lose his cool and beat up Evolution. Even his mic skills aren't that great IMO and he sucks as a face.

Mayo 03-22-2005 08:32 PM

His mic skills and in-ring work seem fine to me. I blame the writers for turning him way too fast, and yeah he's not that great as a face but they have to at least try it out because you can't stay heel forever (although again, they rushed the face turn).

Gouda 03-22-2005 08:37 PM

If they did what they did with Batista with Orton I think it would have been even better and Orton would be even more over.

BatistaBomb 03-22-2005 09:48 PM

heidenreich and carlito
carlito was hyped in ovw to be so good and look how shitty he is in the ring
heindenreich has the look but no damn talent

redoneja 03-22-2005 09:57 PM

I'm most disappointed by Jake Roberts. I love the man to death as a wrestler but he just let himself slip into addiction.

KayfabeMan 03-23-2005 01:25 AM

Vince McMahon.

He let not only his company, but the majority of the business, slip into total shit.

Thanks.

Fox 03-23-2005 01:38 AM

Undetaker's Deadman Return: I loved the character before he turned to biker-taker in 2000, and I was so stoked that he was returning to that character at WrestleMania XX. When he came out in that god damned cowboy hat and those god damn leather pants and that god damn tank top, I was more than disappointed. I was pissed off.

Ultimo Dragon: not really his fault, but after all the hype, he was transofrmed into just another cruiserweight.

The Icon of Elisim 03-23-2005 01:46 AM

As far as stuff done in the last couple months. Simon Dean has been a huge disapointment

His promos were great but the fueds went no where past matches with Rosey and Viscera. Nova is an incredible wrestler but has been forced to wrestle more watered down than anyone on the roster. There is so much he has to offer them and they aren't using him at all.

The only way to save him IMO is to draft him to Smackdown and put him in the Cabinet since he is supposed to be a business savy entrepeneur. Then he becomes the cabinets CW contender and they make up some reason why his wrestling skills have expanded past amateur wrestling.

Aussie Skier 03-23-2005 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim

The only way to save him IMO is to draft him to Smackdown and put him in the Cabinet since he is supposed to be a business savy entrepeneur. Then he becomes the cabinets CW contender and they make up some reason why his wrestling skills have expanded past amateur wrestling.

OMG, that is like an awesome idea!!! he could be like JBL's personal trainer!

Savio 03-23-2005 06:54 AM

Kane I thought his new look would make him a main eventer.

SuperSlim 03-23-2005 07:56 AM

you can't dog Carlito yet, he hasn't had that many matches yet.

BUt Taker's return was a real let down.

Kane, well it's not his fault.

Orton, not as good on the mic for the position that he is in. They basically shot him to the moon far far to quickly.

Hidenrich - what was the point of signing this guy? he looks terrible, his promos are terrible, he looks terrible in the ring, THe only time he was cool was in the commercial.

Dave Youell 03-23-2005 08:11 AM

Mania 20

-Edit-

Oh sorry you said who

The bookers of Mania 20

Sickboy 03-23-2005 08:29 AM

Nathan Jones. I was hoping he would do big things, but nah...

Of course Ultimo, Undertaker and Kane too

Saimou 03-23-2005 11:14 AM

Well...Simon Dean, Heidenreich and Gene Snitsky (explanations have been said already). I didn´t see John Cenas name mentioned...´cause he has disappointed me since his face turn. Even though I´ve never been into rap, I liked the heel-Cena, with fair promos, and much more diversified in ring work. When I look the Cena nowadays, the difference is huge. His promos sound like they´ve been written by a 10 year old, he has this awfully childish "'Chain Gang", and the spinning US-belt was just f´n awful. And his ring in work...all he does nowadays is "5-knuckle shuffle", suplex, and that friggin FU called fisherman carry slam, which is one of the most over finishers on Smackdown.

SuperSlim 03-23-2005 11:26 AM

yeah I bought Cena's DVD to see his heel stuff again and man compared to now is vastly huge.

Back then he was good. HIs promos were good and all that stuff. And his finisher looked a lot better and devestating then it does now.

I really do miss teh Cena of old when he wrote his own rhymes and really delivered the FU.

tucsonspeed6 03-23-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VJW
Even his mic skills aren't that great IMO and he sucks as a face.

I can't stand how when everybody doesn't like somebody they throw everything, including the kitchen sink at the guy. People say Orton's mic skills suck, his in ring work sucks, his finisher looks weak, etc. Everybody says the same things about guys like HHH too, but frankly I don't think anyone actually looks at the real problem. Orton puts himself out there night after night and does a great job on the mic, he throws everything he's got into his matches and sells better than most. Saying that he sucks as a face doesn't make any sense...he's just playing the part that was given to him. I think he's playing that part to a T, just like the Rock played the part of Rocky Miavia to a T. It's not whether he sucks at it, but whether or not that particular gimmick is right for that person. The bookers thought that having the guy who RKOed everybody's old favorite wrestler at one time or another turn into an old school babyface was a brilliant idea, and everybody turns on the actor for it. Just because Star Wars Ep 1 sucked doesn't make Ewan McGregor a bad actor, and likewise, just because Orton's character sucks doesn't mean that Orton sucks. And don't nobody say nothing about his backstage antics because you all hated him for everything long before you knew that it was going on.

Kane Knight 03-23-2005 02:23 PM

Recently, Chris Masters. Anything he can do, lots of others can do better. So what's so great that he's worth these huge promos, or even keeping on after his sloppy ringwork injured Richards?

Fignuts 03-23-2005 02:52 PM

KK you fucker! You stole my answer!

Fignuts 03-23-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BatistaBomb
heidenreich and carlito
carlito was hyped in ovw to be so good and look how shitty he is in the ring
heindenreich has the look but no damn talent

CARLITO?

Are you insane? He had 2 short matches, and even then his selling is better than half the roster. Not to mention he's fantastic on the mic.

But yeah, Heidenrich is shit.

Crashnburn 03-23-2005 03:13 PM

Kenzo Suzuki. I don't know why but I was expecting more out of this guy when he debuted.

Mister Sinister 03-23-2005 03:34 PM

The Entire WWE has disapointed me, well not so much the talent...but the booking and execution

RemyRed 03-23-2005 04:41 PM

James Steele :cool:

Savio 03-23-2005 04:52 PM

Nathan jones was on Con Air.

Kane Knight 03-23-2005 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts
KK you fucker! You stole my answer!

I'm sorry. Will making out make it better?

LK 03-23-2005 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashnburn
Kenzo Suzuki. I don't know why but I was expecting more out of this guy when he debuted.

Yeah me too. I mean come on, this guy was originally going to be put into a feud with Benoit for the World title. He must be good. Then they scrap that idea and I figure that was probably due to the controversy the character would create plus the rise of Orton. I was expecting the sort of stereotypical Japanese wrestler. Martial arts kicks and submission wrestling. And when the big debut comes, what is the outcome? A guy who's moveset appears to consist of a chop and a weak ass finishing move.

I could say Masters but then again I didn't expect anything to begin with.

BTW I don't understand how some of you can say CCC.

Sickboy 03-23-2005 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior
Nathan jones was on Con Air.

The movie? :wtf:

redoneja 03-23-2005 07:00 PM

Brock Lesnar
He had it all but threw it away

The people responsible for not pushing Christian also disappoint me

Crashnburn 03-23-2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja
Brock Lesnar
He had it all but threw it away


Good one. I actually had totally forgotten about him.

Savio 03-23-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSlim
Kane, well it's not his fault.

Yeah it was Snitksys.

Savio 03-23-2005 09:14 PM

Yeah brock made me sad too.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sickboy
The movie? :wtf:

Yup.....well actually Diamond Dogs "real" name was Nathan Jones.


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