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PullMyFinger 03-23-2005 10:38 PM

TNA in talks with Spike...
 
How do you think that'll go? I personally think Spike should pick it up because they'd probably grab more ratings with TNA than they ever would with the other shit they come out with.

YOUR Hero 03-23-2005 10:50 PM

Wish them luck. Healthy competition is the biggest missing component in todays pro wrestling scene.

RemyRed 03-23-2005 10:50 PM

I don't really care, Spike Dudley'll never be that big a draw. But I really hope they get WWE's old slot, doubtful, but hey a fan can dream.

Loose Cannon 03-23-2005 10:51 PM

LOL. DUHHHHHHHH

James Steele 03-23-2005 11:02 PM

Actually, if TNA did go head to head with RAW or SmackDown! right now they would get their asses handed to them.

I hope they get a primetime TV deal, but not on Mondays or Thursdays (or going head-to-head against WWE right now).

If they got a slot on Wednesdays, like their old PPV slot, they wouldn't have too much competition.

PullMyFinger 03-23-2005 11:35 PM

TNA could grab a shitload of great WWE talent if they played their cards right. Of course, it would also require a shitload of money that I'm sure Jarret doesn't have. TNA should wait till Jericho's contract and other people's expires (like Benoit)..then say, "hey, obviously WWE is the Triple H show...come to our show, we'll give you a world title monster push...and you'd be at the top instead of Triple H's poodle." It would certainly give wrestlers another option instead of revolving around Triple H.

mike627 03-23-2005 11:41 PM

I don't see Benoit going to TNA only to job to Jarret.

Kane Knight 03-23-2005 11:46 PM

1) Has this been verified anywhere?

2) Why the hell would Spike drop Raw and pick up TNA?

PullMyFinger 03-23-2005 11:47 PM

Well yeah, something has to be done about Jarrett. However, if someone tells Jarrett the amount of money he'd make if he took the belt off of himself, he'd probably listen. I doubt anyone would want to carry around a damn belt and be in debt.

PullMyFinger 03-23-2005 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
1) Has this been verified anywhere?

2) Why the hell would Spike drop Raw and pick up TNA?

TPWW's headlines. Raw is done with Spike...asked too much.

Kane Knight 03-23-2005 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
TPWW's headlines. Raw is done with Spike...asked too much.

HOWABOUT THE OTHER, LESS ESTABLISHED, MORE IMPORTANT PART?

PullMyFinger 03-23-2005 11:58 PM

From what I remember, it just said something like Jarret in contact with TNA or something like that. I'll look back..I probably fucked up and now I feel really dumb. Haha

Fox 03-24-2005 12:04 AM

This could be great for TNA if it actually happens. They must realize that they need a better TV deal than they have now if they ever want to be any kind of competition for McMahon's massive WWE.

TNA could steal some big WWE talent if they used the right methods and proved that TNA is a place that's going somewhere. No one wants to walk away from a WWE contract if there's a chance that their new employer is going to stumble. But look at the mis-used talent pool that TNA could utilize: Rob Van Dam, Chris Benoit, Perry Saturn, Spanky, Paul London, Billy Kidman, Charlie Haas, Shane Helms, Rhyno, Test. The list goes on and on.

But there's always the Jarrett roadblock. Until Jerry and Jeff realize that Jeff doesn't draw as the main focus of the show, they'll never make any progress.

And Dusty Rhodes needs to go too.

James Steele 03-24-2005 12:06 AM

but he's the fucking american dweem brotha!

HeartBreakMan2k 03-24-2005 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
1) Has this been verified anywhere?

2) Why the hell would Spike drop Raw and pick up TNA?

Well the rumor was Vince wanted to much for Raw, as in TNA wanted to keep the show, but didn't want to pay out the money. Now if that's true, they could pick up TNA at a much cheaper price and still have a show that would out draw any other show they could have (sans Raw).

SuperSlim 03-24-2005 12:32 AM

well as far as all this goes, it would be nice is Spike did grab TNA but like it has been said it also depends on what day.

BUt first what they, TNA, has to do is figure out what to do with the world title. Right now that title is practically meaningless. And there really aren't any contenders for it anymore. Hardy can't go for it, Nash is out, DDP is out, Raven is out, Monty Brown is a heel so he's out, Styles is questionable, The Truth is pretty much out.

What TNA needs is to develop some main event guys. And tell Jarrett that it is OK to job sometimes. That it is OK to walk around without a belt. until then they can get any TV deal they want but it won't go to far. Also they need to develop the characters.

They all are pretty much the same. High flyers. THe only ones with personality are Petey, Styles, Daniles, Primetime is workin on his still, Sabin has some and that's all from the X division. And for goodness sake push Raven. and leave Dustin out of things. What in the world is Dustin gonna do for the company? Nothing.

So yeah TNA got a lotta work to do, not just to compete with the WWe but to stay alive.

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
From what I remember, it just said something like Jarret in contact with TNA or something like that. I'll look back..I probably fucked up and now I feel really dumb. Haha

It says that it's rumoured.

Of course, this rumour has been shot down on other sites. In fact, this should be pretty old news now, as very little Triple A posted was new.

Gouda 03-24-2005 01:39 AM

Spike really should pick it up. They could definatleydo it for less than what they were paying the WWE.

And if they don't make it compete with a WWE show then I think it could get them some fair ratings.

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gouda
Spike really should pick it up. They could definatleydo it for less than what they were paying the WWE.

And if they don't make it compete with a WWE show then I think it could get them some fair ratings.

And if they could get TNA to act like a business...

KayfabeMan 03-24-2005 04:19 AM

TNA is a glorified indy group. The only thing that seperates them from any other indy out there is that (at the moment) they seem to have a blank check. Ironically, the same thing can be said for their heads.

Without solid matches, solid competition, angles that make sense, and a STEADY roster of talents - you can't do shit. They don't have any type of business strategy or plan, other than to spend other people's money to keep their own names out there for as long as possible; should that money run out, they'd all be unemployed.

The big shame is that they have everything needed to become a big group, but they don't present themselves as one, and they don't utilize any of the things they have - especially 1/2 of their actual roster (not counting the 15 jobbers they have to fill TV). If I were in charge of SpikeTV, I wouldn't even consider TNA being on the air with me until they could prove that they're an actual promotion.

You've yet to prove that you can draw, especially in different areas of the country, and with paying customers. Even in your own "comfort zone", with free tickets, you can't fill the place for a TV taping. Get a business plan together, and then come back.

TerranRich 03-24-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
TNA could grab a shitload of great WWE talent if they played their cards right. Of course, it would also require a shitload of money that I'm sure Jarret doesn't have. TNA should wait till Jericho's contract and other people's expires (like Benoit)..then say, "hey, obviously WWE is the Triple H show...come to our show, we'll give you a world title monster push...and you'd be at the top instead of Triple H's poodle." It would certainly give wrestlers another option instead of revolving around Triple H.

It's just too bad that...

Triple H : WWE :: Jeff Jarrett : TNA

in a way ;)

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich
It's just too bad that...

Triple H : WWE :: Jeff Jarrett : TNA

in a way ;)

In a way? Screw that. It's the same deal. :p

Dave Youell 03-24-2005 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
In a way? Screw that. It's the same deal. :p

Screw that they're the same person! I've never seen them together at the same time, have you!

TerranRich 03-24-2005 02:54 PM

Which one's Clark Kent and which one's Superman? :naughty:

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Youell
Screw that they're the same person! I've never seen them together at the same time, have you!

Just like Bruce Wayne and Superman!

TerranRich 03-24-2005 06:08 PM

But they're not even on the same TV show...

OOooohhhhh, I get it. ;)

Savio 03-24-2005 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
2) Why the hell would Spike drop Raw and pick up TNA?

They like making bad decisions.

Disturbed316 03-24-2005 06:13 PM

TNA is a pile of wank.

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
They like making bad decisions.

"The first network for regret."

KayfabeMan 03-24-2005 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Why the hell would Spike air Shipmates, Blind Date, Trucks!, and a reality show with William Shatner?

:shifty:

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
:shifty:

Trucks! is probably the LEAST nonsensical show on there. I mean, it's supposed to be a manly network...Yet 6 hours of Star Trek a day...

KayfabeMan 03-24-2005 09:12 PM

I say Spike should start a 'Surreal Life' type of reality show based on pro-wrestlers. Have a house with like Randy Savage, Scott Hall, Joanie Laurer, Sean Waltman, Lita, Konnan, another random superstar, and Lex Luger - live via a satellite hookup from Federal Prison.

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
I say Spike should start a 'Surreal Life' type of reality show based on pro-wrestlers. Have a house with like Randy Savage, Scott Hall, Joanie Laurer, Sean Waltman, Lita, Konnan, another random superstar, and Lex Luger - live via a satellite hookup from Federal Prison.

Only if Waltman and Laurer keep their clothes on.

The CyNick 03-24-2005 11:08 PM

The only way they could get a deal is if they had the likes of Goldberg, Hogan and Rock lined up to work for them

Kane Knight 03-24-2005 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick
The only way they could get a deal is if they had the likes of Goldberg, Hogan Rock and Jesus lined up to work for them


Fenix122 03-24-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

The only way they could get a deal is if they had the likes of Goldberg, Hogan, Rock, and Jesus lined up to work for them
Even if they got Jesus he would just job to Jarrett like everyone else.

KayfabeMan 03-24-2005 11:54 PM

Jesus was never a good worker.

In singles competition he did OK for himself on Super Astros, but in the tag division (with Los Boricuas) he always got his ass handed to him. It'd be no different in TNA.

Loose Cannon 03-25-2005 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
I say Spike should start a 'Surreal Life' type of reality show based on pro-wrestlers. Have a house with like Randy Savage, Scott Hall, Joanie Laurer, Sean Waltman, Lita, Konnan, another random superstar, and Lex Luger - live via a satellite hookup from Federal Prison.

LOL

I would throw Bill Watts in there to make sure the guys don't break Curfew...or violate parole, whichever works.

KayfabeMan 03-25-2005 12:35 AM

:lol:

Bill Watts is indeed the freakin' man. :y:

RESPECT.

Corkscrewed 03-25-2005 12:36 AM

I get Spike and USA, so I think it'd be cool. I won't cross any fingers, but it'd be an interesting diversion.


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