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Innovator 04-19-2005 11:21 AM

Edge's wife speaks out
 
Edge's wife Lisa Ortiz Copeland , the fourth person involved in the Lita-Edge-Matt Hardy situation, broke her silence with a long post on Matt Hardy's message board Monday evening, posting under the name "Lisa O." Hardy confirmed it was her posting before the actual post went up, noting that "Lisa wants to tell her side of this story."

The posting pulls no punches over the situation, included accusations of alleged steroid use by both Lita and Edge. Ortiz also states that despite having chances to explain themselves, that neither have "told the truth" to Hardy or Ortiz over the whys and hows of the situation. She noted that there was always underlying tension between Lita and herself dating back to her wedding to Edge and now she understands why. She also takes WWE to task for how they have handled the situation, including Hardy's release.

In regard to Edge's friendship with Hardy, she wrote, "Adam blaming Matt for not being a stand up boyfriend and in turn having his girlfriend confide in him.... justifying how he could not only betray his wife but one of his best friends..... come on people you read his book.... him and Matt were best friends. When he had his neck surgery there were 5 people from the WWE that called Adam weekly to check on him--Matt being on of them. Matt was there so many times for Amy when she hurt herself. Whether it was the neck, the knee, or anything, he was there for her. How could Matt post his personal life on the net.... How immature, right? Give me a break people.... If Matt wrote this all in his book............ No big deal! But because the WWE didn't make one red cent from this his personal life is "off limits". What was Unscripted all about. WWE's stars personal lives. As long as Vince can make a buck...who cares what the fans know. But instead Matt got fired b/c all the WWE is interested in now is Bimbos, another Diva search please."



In regard to how Edge and Lita have handled the situation, Ortiz wrote, "Amy and Adam have had many many opportunities to tell Matt and I both the truth. A chance to say hey... Sorry I hurt you but I fell in love with someone else. But they have both repeatedly continued to lie, lie, lie, lie! Why do they have backstage heat when supposedly everyone else is cheating on their spouses? Because Adam is a coward and started naming names trying to bring others down with him. Amy was never respected by any of the girls b/c she treated them all as T-N-A and now that she needs them she is trying to gain sympathy. Well too bad, that is not how the world works. As women we don't trust each other as it is.......... as a woman disrespected by another ---F**k you b**ch!



I had heard somewhere that she tried to call me to apologize but that was a lie... I have tried to call her numerous times with no luck unless I call her from Adams cell, only then does she answer. They are both cowards they are both liars and they both need major psychological help. Maybe one day they will get it.... maybe not. I know Matt and I will prevail. God doesn't bless those who have evil in their hearts.

I am trying to forgive Adam and Amy but it will take a while. Edge and Lita may be one thing, but take away Adam's steroids and what would he be? Another 6'4" skinny guy and take away Amy's opponents like Gail Kim, Molly Holly, Victoria--Girls that know how to wrestle and guess what? That nasty b**ch will bust her knee cap every other 7 months. Good riddance to them both. They deserve each other. Just remember what goes around comes around. I may not have handled this in the best way possible, but I never expected this to be my life right now so please forgive me........... God bless Matt and all the future has to offer him. And God bless Adam and Amy b/c they will need it when Karma comes knocking on their doors!"

Credit: PWInsider.com

Loose Cannon 04-19-2005 11:25 AM

I LOVE HER

jerichoholic169 04-19-2005 11:26 AM

good for her - at least it shows that its not just internet fans that think lita is a walking botchfest. i hope edge and lita enjoy their lives together rotting in hell...normally i wouldn't wish anything bad on anyone but they deserve it for what they've done.

Innovator 04-19-2005 11:31 AM

She is pretty awesome. Lays into the WWE pretty good, and calls out Edge on the HHH vitamins.

Innovator 04-19-2005 11:32 AM

BTW to read the whole post, link here http://thematthardy.com/phpBB/viewto...ghlight=lisa+o

it is pretty long.

Rammsteinmad 04-19-2005 11:35 AM

Lol... that made me feel good reading that. It's good to hear that both Matt and Lisa are on the same side here.

Kane Knight 04-19-2005 11:35 AM

Damn.

NoRoolz 04-19-2005 11:42 AM

Respect to her. And hope she gets her life back underway. LOL at some of the comments made. "Take away Edge's steroids and what will he be? Another 6'4'' skinny guy..." "Another diva-search please..." "Amy was never respected by any of the girls b/c she treated them all as T-N-A..."

Innovator 04-19-2005 11:43 AM

Also if you go to the thread listing you can see Matt's reaction to the MSG crowd

Loose Cannon 04-19-2005 11:46 AM

LOL at the kid with the Edge Sig and Edge avatar.

jerichoholic169 04-19-2005 11:47 AM

Seems Jericho sort of had his say on it:

http://thematthardy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4223

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 11:50 AM

Oh please. Why would she wanna even discuss this over the net to people she doesnt even know anyways? She seems a bit bitter, which is understandable, but to say Edge is on roids seems to me like she is just trying to slander him out of jealousy. You know once they are done and divorced she wont have Edge's wallet to play with. She's basically lost her meal ticket. I feel badly for her, but Edge is greater than Matt. He made a mistake. I guess that makes him evil. Well back in the day HBK was pretty evil and now look at how he's turned out. He seems to be in God's good graces.

Christ there are a ton of fan girls on that site.

"This is even worse then the Bret Hart situation." wtf lmao. No sorry, this affects just the fans of Matt and the personal life of them three..it doesnt affect the industry at all. This will be forgotten in a few months.

edit- no way is that his wife. Just read page 6..if it is her I can see why Edge may have went after Lita in the first place. Seems like a big fan of Matt's and they are just trying to slander Edge. C'mon Matt, you can do better than this.
Get some pills there woman.

Fignuts 04-19-2005 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
take away Amy's opponents like Gail Kim, Molly Holly, Victoria--Girls that know how to wrestle and guess what? That nasty b**ch will bust her knee cap every other 7 months.
Credit: PWInsider.com


Ha hA

KingofOldSchool 04-19-2005 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
Oh please. Why would she wanna even discuss this over the net to people she doesnt even know anyways? She seems a bit bitter, which is understandable, but to say Edge is on roids seems to me like she is just trying to slander him out of jealousy.

Errrrr it's not slander if you're telling the truth.

And I hate to prove you wrong, but Edge admitted to steroid use on OTR a while back.

wwe2222 04-19-2005 12:10 PM

[QUOTE=Zen v.W.o.]
"This is even worse then the Bret Hart situation." wtf lmao. No sorry, this affects just the fans of Matt and the personal life of them three..it doesnt affect the industry at all. This will be forgotten in a few months.

Im sorry, but screwing over your wife and your best friend is far worse than bret hart getting screwed out of a title in an industry that predetermines its winner. Montreal may have been more IMPORTANT to the industry, but I cant say its worse than what happened with Edgegate.

Shadow 04-19-2005 12:13 PM

LOL!

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=wwe2222]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
"This is even worse then the Bret Hart situation." wtf lmao. No sorry, this affects just the fans of Matt and the personal life of them three..it doesnt affect the industry at all. This will be forgotten in a few months.

Im sorry, but screwing over your wife and your best friend is far worse than bret hart getting screwed out of a title in an industry that predetermines its winner. Montreal may have been more IMPORTANT to the industry, but I cant say its worse than what happened with Edgegate.


On a personal level yes, but the fangurls are talking about how it's bigger then the Bret situation in terms of wrestling. Which is nowhere close.

I still doubt it's her. She seems somewhat of a psycho hose-beast.

The Naitch 04-19-2005 12:26 PM

I remember reading Are we there yet? and Matt goes on about how Lita and him were destined to be together, and that they had something special when he drove throught sleet and snow with a fever just to see Lita. They hugged and shit and then PLOP. Sorry, it wasn't destiny.

Savio 04-19-2005 12:27 PM

She went crazy on page 6

DaveWadding 04-19-2005 12:29 PM

Hhahahah

"Personally I always liked Amy as a wrestler. As a person I always thought she was kinda a bitch and kinda looked like a man but I just chalked that up to all of the steriods she did... but hey maybe she's like Adam and only tried them once (Off the Record) and still doing them! Oh OK! "

Savio 04-19-2005 12:31 PM

Man it won't let me register.

Innovator 04-19-2005 12:33 PM

Yeah they closed registering

I was thought, if during the trish/lita segment Matt's theme hit, I can't even fathom how big of a pop that would have been. OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 12:47 PM

Half the people chanting just wanted to show that they were "in the know". They may sympathize with Matt and how he was dealt, but they dont really love the guy. Where were these fans when he was around? Exactly.

The crowd is very hypocritical. Boo her character, but why boo her for her own life choices and mistakes? What business is it of theirs how she lives it? So she cheated..big deal. Flair has done so much shit, he still is widely loved. Austin beats women. Gimme a break. Like a crowd in NY..NY people, are all full of saints. :nono:

Pillman needs to come back from death and cut his "smart mark" promo.

But seriously, the fans booing her for making a mistake in her own personal life is shit.

KingofOldSchool 04-19-2005 12:52 PM

It's not a mistake if you don't "correct" the mistake you make.

KingofOldSchool 04-19-2005 12:56 PM

Flair hasn't done anything that deserves people to hate him and he has meant so much to the business that he can get away with things, likewise with Austin.

To go along the lines of something KK would say, If Austin would goto Rome and stun the new Pope, all of the Catholics would mark out like a bunch of 12 year olds at an N*Sync concert.

What has Lita done to deserve that kind of praise? Nothing.

Kane Knight 04-19-2005 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
Oh please. Why would she wanna even discuss this over the net to people she doesnt even know anyways? She seems a bit bitter, which is understandable, but to say Edge is on roids seems to me like she is just trying to slander him out of jealousy. You know once they are done and divorced she wont have Edge's wallet to play with. She's basically lost her meal ticket. I feel badly for her, but Edge is greater than Matt. He made a mistake. I guess that makes him evil. Well back in the day HBK was pretty evil and now look at how he's turned out. He seems to be in God's good graces.

Christ there are a ton of fan girls on that site.

"This is even worse then the Bret Hart situation." wtf lmao. No sorry, this affects just the fans of Matt and the personal life of them three..it doesnt affect the industry at all. This will be forgotten in a few months.

edit- no way is that his wife. Just read page 6..if it is her I can see why Edge may have went after Lita in the first place. Seems like a big fan of Matt's and they are just trying to slander Edge. C'mon Matt, you can do better than this.
Get some pills there woman.

As said before, it's impossible to slander somebody unless it's false.

Edge has admitted to using steroids.

I love how you attack the character of the one who was cheated on. Good Call.

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 01:01 PM

That still doesn't mean the fans are not full of BS for bitching on Lita for her own personal life decisions.
To use the fact that a guy like Austin can do no wrong just due to the reason he is popular as fuck and has done so much for the industry is a cop out. I could reverse this and say what has Matt done for the business that affords him the luxury of having so many chant for him, just to show some sort of sympathy to?

Lita solely has to apologize to Matt and the people it closely affects. We wont know if she has, it's none of our concern.

Kane Knight 04-19-2005 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
Half the people chanting just wanted to show that they were "in the know". They may sympathize with Matt and how he was dealt, but they dont really love the guy. Where were these fans when he was around? Exactly.

Yeah, because you're going to be as vocal when you see him weekly as you're going to be when he's been fired.

:roll:

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
As said before, it's impossible to slander somebody unless it's false.

Edge has admitted to using steroids.

I love how you attack the character of the one who was cheated on. Good Call.

You cant tell me you think that's really her? If it is, she needs some mental help herself it seems.
I'm not attacking Matt, but he's making it harder for me to feel for him, when he wont stop his crusade to get to Edge and Lita. What's that gonna do for you Matt? Make you feel a bit better?

It sucks that he got sacked for that reason, and I think he should still be on tv. But he's the guy who is putting a situation that could have been handled privately into the publics hands. I'm not sure but that is rather uncalled for in itself. Just my opinion.

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Yeah, because you're going to be as vocal when you see him weekly as you're going to be when he's been fired.

:roll:

Tell me he was incredibly over. Tell me the fans chanting that all gave a honest shit about Matt. This is a spicy, juicy story, and fans love that kind of shit. They love it in Hollywood, they love it everywhere. Sports, whatever. They love controversy, and that is why everyone chanted and spouted all that stuff. It'll die down.

KingofOldSchool 04-19-2005 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
That still doesn't mean the fans are not full of BS for bitching on Lita for her own personal life decisions.
To use the fact that a guy like Austin can do no wrong just due to the reason he is popular as fuck and has done so much for the industry is a cop out. I could reverse this and say what has Matt done for the business that affords him the luxury of having so many chant for him, just to show some sort of sympathy to?

Lita solely has to apologize to Matt and the people it closely affects. We wont know if she has, it's none of our concern.

Well Matt was lied and cheated on by the love of his life, THEN FIRED. Anyone with half of a heart would feel bad and want to support him.

And when your job requires you to be in the public eye, then the choices in your personal life will reach the public and they will judge you based on your decisions.

Funky Fly 04-19-2005 01:09 PM

LOL owned

KingofOldSchool 04-19-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
You cant tell me you think that's really her? If it is, she needs some mental help herself it seems.
I'm not attacking Matt, but he's making it harder for me to feel for him, when he wont stop his crusade to get to Edge and Lita. What's that gonna do for you Matt? Make you feel a bit better?
.

Only Matt and Lisa know who that really is, I don't doubt that it's really her. And what she is saying sounds like nothing more than someone who is coping with the fact that her husband was having an affair on her and was lying about it.

Kane Knight 04-19-2005 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
You cant tell me you think that's really her?

You can't tell me I actually care?

Mayo 04-19-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
To go along the lines of something KK would say, If Austin would goto Rome and stun the new Pope, all of the Catholics would mark out like a bunch of 12 year olds at an N*Sync concert.

:wtf:

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 01:18 PM

Wouldn't have been made public if not for Matt airing his shit over the net, and repeatedly trying to gain sympathy from his fangrrrls. He should have handled it with a bit more maturity. Maybe he'd still have a job now.

But alas, he doesn't and that is too bad. But I'm sure the business will move on. I think the fans have a right to air their opinions live, hell I'm all for it. But I hope they aren't taking things too seriously. None of us are saints.

I just think he's hurting his chances of ever returning to the big time. If Vince can get so uptight over a post on a message board, imagine how he'd feel after the fans start fucking up his segments on account of a bitter ex-employee.

Kane Knight 04-19-2005 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
Tell me he was incredibly over. Tell me the fans chanting that all gave a honest shit about Matt. This is a spicy, juicy story, and fans love that kind of shit. They love it in Hollywood, they love it everywhere. Sports, whatever. They love controversy, and that is why everyone chanted and spouted all that stuff. It'll die down.

Yeah, people love drama. And of course some people are going to jump up and start screaming because it's a juicy story. Do you actually know a percentage? Have you been following MF'ers in the wild, carefully gaguing their response?

Tell us, doctor Zen, of your extensive research into how many people are only in it simply because it's drama.

Kane Knight 04-19-2005 01:20 PM

Oh, and pop psych 101 really doesn't count as extensive research.

Zen v.W.o. 04-19-2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Yeah, people love drama. And of course some people are going to jump up and start screaming because it's a juicy story. Do you actually know a percentage? Have you been following MF'ers in the wild, carefully gaguing their response?

Tell us, doctor Zen, of your extensive research into how many people are only in it simply because it's drama.


I'm willing to gauge about half the crowd didnt give a toss about the fact Matt was sacked, but went along with the chant anyways. How can we debate this? we cant. But from previous reactions to Mr. Hardy, and the fact he was not even more over then his bro Jeff, I'm willing to stand by my statement.

Thank you Kane Knight sir. :y: :)

McDoogle 04-19-2005 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
To go along the lines of something KK would say, If Austin would goto Rome and stun the new Pope, all of the Catholics would mark out like a bunch of 12 year olds at an N*Sync concert.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Did the catholics cheer when that bitch (dont remember her name) tore up the picture of Pope John Paul? Yea im sure catholics all around the world would cheer :nono:


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