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YOUR Hero 05-08-2005 11:08 PM

Canada invented the sport of basketball, we also produce it's best player.
 
Steve Nash, NBA MVP

First time ever a non Yank has won this award I do believe(?)

Hopefully there's a ripple effect from this. Like when Larry Walker won the MLB MVP, baseball enrollment in Canada jumoed quite a bit. So yeah, hopefully the same thing happens for basketball.

I don't really like baketball.

RP 05-08-2005 11:34 PM

He only won because he had awsome american players surrounding him.

Bad Company 05-08-2005 11:42 PM

Nash is old school isn't he?

MoRcHeEbA 05-08-2005 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
He only won because he had awsome american players surrounding him.

how did they do last year without him I forget :?:

also Hakeem olujawon or however you spell it was the only other non american to win it.

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DaveWadding 05-09-2005 12:32 AM

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RoXer 05-09-2005 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey RoXer
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DaveWadding 05-09-2005 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey RoXer
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Loose Cannon 05-09-2005 12:45 AM

Quote:

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Loose Cannon 05-09-2005 12:46 AM

seeing as I'm the only "NY" Suns fan in exsistence, I must do that.

RP 05-09-2005 01:01 AM

Dallas in 5 games.

RP 05-09-2005 01:01 AM

Who was the last white guy to be mvp?

Zen v.W.o. 05-09-2005 01:06 AM

Probably Larry Bird, but im not a Bball fan so I dunno.

Nash owns the NBA. 2 Canucks in the league and we take the top prize. If we had the same population as the states did you know we'd own every sport going.

Anyways, congrats Nash.

Only other player I enjoy watching if I have to is Kobe.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-09-2005 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Who was the last white guy to be mvp?

Tim Duncan

The Icon of Elisim 05-09-2005 05:26 AM

I'm happy for him but Shaq should've won

RP 05-09-2005 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme
Tim Duncan


Duh! :lol:

YOUR Hero 05-09-2005 10:09 AM

Shaq is so much the man. Really, he is. His interview when he was told NAsh won, was classic.

RP 05-09-2005 10:14 AM

I would have considered Iverson before i considered Shaq.

Ninti the Mad 05-09-2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Shaq is so much the man. Really, he is. His interview when he was told NAsh won, was classic.



what happened

MoRcHeEbA 05-09-2005 02:16 PM

He pretended not to know the results then pretended to cry. Then went on too say that Nash deserved it.

The Outlaw 05-09-2005 03:22 PM

LOL yeah pretty comical

Gertner 05-09-2005 03:34 PM

karl malone was the last white guy to win it.

OssMan 05-09-2005 04:24 PM

slammin niggas like shaquille

Ninti the Mad 05-09-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA
He pretended not to know the results then pretended to cry. Then went on too say that Nash deserved it.


LOL

Is there a video of this?

SammyG 05-09-2005 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
He only won because he had awsome american players surrounding him.

:cool: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Gonzo 05-09-2005 09:30 PM

:lol:

You crazy canucks, we give ya one moment to shine and you'll hold onto it forever. :p

MoRcHeEbA 05-09-2005 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG
:cool: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA
how did they do last year without him I forget :?:


YOUR Hero 05-09-2005 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninti the Mad
LOL

Is there a video of this?

Seen it on the sports news casts a few times. Just look at a website of one of them maybe.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 05-09-2005 10:47 PM

Granted they have gotten a lot better with Nash, the development of Amari Stodemire has something to do with it too. Nash is a great player though and does deserve the MVP because of the turn around with the Suns. He's a true PG and is perfect for the Suns personal. Run run run and no defense haha - If you were starting a team though, the 1st player anybody would want would be Shaq, but the MVP isn't always about that.

Oh yeah last white player to win the MVP was Larry Bird (represent) for the 83-84, 84-85, 85-86 seasons

BCWWF 05-09-2005 11:50 PM

I don't get why people give AI MVP potential this year. He got his act together and worked his ass off, but when it all comes down to it he still shoots too much and too low percentage to ever win big.

RP 05-10-2005 12:51 AM

Larry Legend :love:

If Dirk Nowitski hustled and played defense he could be a MVP like Larry Legend.

The Gooch 05-10-2005 07:54 AM

The fact that Phoenix was shit without Nash when he was injured justifies this award to me. It is not about who the best or most dominant player is, it is about who is the most valuable player to his team is.

You can't tell me any of the people who voted for Nash would ever trade Shaq straight up for him. If you could, I guess there is a GM position in Toronto waiting for them.

I understand the pissing and moaning about Shaq not winning, but I think that guards are too often overlooked in the voting. AI deserved more respect as well. Nash with his smart play and amazing passing ability made his teamates much better. It may not be as amazing to some as scoring almost 30 points per game, but it definitely should not be ignored like it always seems to be when it comes to these awards.

YOUR Hero 05-10-2005 09:59 AM

Theres no whining and moaning that Shaq didn't win.:wtf: Well at least not from anyone that really matters. The NBA players, Shaq included, stated Nash deserved it.

The Gooch 05-10-2005 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Theres no whining and moaning that Shaq didn't win.:wtf: Well at least not from anyone that really matters. The NBA players, Shaq included, stated Nash deserved it.

I was listening to Fox Sports Radio and some of the on air personalities were pissing and moaning about it. It seems that people on this board are smart enough to see that Nash is a deserving winner.

The Shaq interview was priceless.

Gertner 05-10-2005 11:02 AM

Eric Gange 2003 Cy Young

Martin St.Louis NHL MVP

Mike Weir 2003 Masters

now Steve Nash NBA MVP

If Jesse Palmer wins the MVP of the NFL the U.S should contact president Bush

Jesus Shuttlesworth 05-10-2005 11:44 AM

Took a Canadian about 60 years to finally win MVP :D :D :D :D!!!!!!

Nash is probably the worst defender to ever win it, Jason Terry drove around him a million times last night but he just ran into a wall named Amare. Nash won it because of his assists and getting people involded - he dropped 12 dimes last night :eek:

RP 05-11-2005 02:06 AM

If you wanna talk most valuable player... Allen Iverson would get my vote. Best player of the year...Nash would definetly be considered.I honestly wouldnt consider Shaq. He's dominant but was he the best?

As i'm thinking about this. I concede. Nash was probably the best player of the year,but think about this for a moment... Look at all the talent nash had around him. Its easy to be amazing and win some games when you are a non-selfish player and you pass the ball like Stockton. If John Stockton was Nash's age and was on the Suns right now he would average , probably 18 assist a game. No joke. I just think that if you took Nash away from the Suns, they would still be in the playoffs. If you took Iverson off the Sixers... They would be on the clock right now( barring a upset ping ball or 2)

I seriously think Allen Iverson is gunna be one of the greatest players ever to live when he retires. I pray this guy gets some help around him ( Not a one legged Chris Webber) and wins a Championship( though i'll root for the Pacers reguardless ). I also think he was the NBA's most valuable player this year. Comon, Kyle Korver? Thats his second scorer/ go to guy/ partner in crime.. comon. Was Wally Zerbiak not available for trade or something? Kyle Korver is the worst 2nd punch in the NBA. O i know. Lets get Aaron McKey out there. He'll defend somebody and average 3 points. Where's George Lynch??? Comon. Iverson carried that team period. He should have been considered before Shaq . Before Nash? I dunno, but he should be considered alot more.

The Icon of Elisim 05-11-2005 03:13 AM

Iverson's only chance at a championship is to sign a cheap contract with a really good team when he is about to retire.

Adder 05-11-2005 10:07 AM

Rectal Pertruder, did you already forget what the Suns' record was last year?

The Outlaw 05-11-2005 06:04 PM

I would definately throw AI in the MVP category. He has improved his PPG, shooting percentage, 3 point percentage, assists, blocks, rebounds, stayed the same in steals. And if you look at it closely, his shooting attempts haven't skyrocketed or anything. He has did a good job this year of getting his guys around him better and getting them the ball. Yeah he shoots a lot, but if he didn't where would the Sixers be? At least he gets his teammates involved, unlike other guys who shoot all the time.


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