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PullMyFinger 07-01-2005 02:55 PM

wtf? -About Christian
 
I don't get where they're going with him. He needs to be on Raw as far as I'm concerned. I thought he was supposed to feud longterm with John Cena? I guess that went nowhere now that he's on Raw and CC is on SD!

Anyone else feel a bit let down as far as the trades go?

CC shouldve been sent back to Raw for either Jericho or Carlito.

SuperSlim 07-01-2005 03:06 PM

well they could continue to do like words being tossed at either or of them from their respected shows and meet up someowhere down the road at one of those interpromotional PPVs

Watson 07-01-2005 03:16 PM

Hopefully they'll keep him in Midcard Hell on Smackdown a few weeks feuding him with the likes of Hardcore Holly and Charlie Haas, then release him as part of the roster cuts. Ahh, it's so nice to dream.

(Waits to be neg repped and flamed by those who think Jason Reso is the "next big thing" and that he deserves to win the "big one")

Schoenauer 07-01-2005 03:28 PM

I think they should meet at Wrestlemania 22 and bring together a great show. But I think Captain Charisma needed to be on SmackDown! so he could go for a championship without Triple H to hold him back.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 03:37 PM

I'm glad Christian is on SmackDown now, I watch SmackDown a hell of a lot more than I watch Raw...

Face Heely 07-01-2005 03:42 PM

There wasn't much of a response to him on SD....but the poor fans had been there for hours, and had already seen him once that night. Still, he doesn't have anything immediate going for him. Maybe a feud with someone unoccupied, like Booker T, so fans who don't watch RAW (yes, they exist!) get a better feel for his character/style?

Corkscrewed 07-01-2005 03:43 PM

Christian stands a much better chance of main eventing on SD than on RAW.

Nark Order 07-01-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Prodigy
Hopefully they'll keep him in Midcard Hell on Smackdown a few weeks feuding him with the likes of Hardcore Holly and Charlie Haas, then release him as part of the roster cuts. Ahh, it's so nice to dream.

(Waits to be neg repped and flamed by those who think Jason Reso is the "next big thing" and that he deserves to win the "big one")

Wait no longer.

Reso is one of the only sure things the WWE has left. If they don't use him to his full potential then it will just go down as another one of the biggest wastes in WWE company history (Alongside of Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Ron Killings, AJ Styles, etc, etc, etc.....) You are clearly misguided if you believe for even one second that the likes of Baldcore and Haas are even on the same level of raw talet

NoRoolz 07-01-2005 03:53 PM

I think they're still planning a Cena/Christian feud down the line, it will be like one of the most built-up feuds ever, over the next 6 months or so, have them trash-talk each other. Christian saying that Cena was lucky he got drafted to SmackDown, and at joint events like SummerSlam and Survivor Series they can have confrontations. Then at the Royal Rumble, Christian wins it and chooses to go back to RAW to face Cena at WM22.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 03:56 PM

I'd love to see Christian feud with Cena. But I'd like to see him feud with bigger people, like Batista, Undertaker. Big in size, that is. You know, have him get over like that may it be with cheap wins or whatever.

PullMyFinger 07-01-2005 04:10 PM

I like the sound of that.

edit: er...to no rulz

Schoenauer 07-01-2005 04:12 PM

Just a reminder that negative repping Prodcore Holly will result in you getting neg reps back. Now Prodcore, I know you like Holly, but he will get no chance in hell at a title shot.

Watson 07-01-2005 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
Wait no longer.

Reso is one of the only sure things the WWE has left. If they don't use him to his full potential then it will just go down as another one of the biggest wastes in WWE company history (Alongside of Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Ron Killings, AJ Styles, etc, etc, etc.....) You are clearly misguided if you believe for even one second that the likes of Baldcore and Haas are even on the same level of raw talet

Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.

Watson 07-01-2005 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoenauer
Just a reminder that negative repping Prodcore Holly will result in you getting neg reps back. Now Prodcore, I know you like Holly, but he will get no chance in hell at a title shot.

Prodcore Holly? LMAO!!!................:wtf:

You = Stupid

James Steele 07-01-2005 04:33 PM

Go suck a massive throbbing cock.

James Steele 07-01-2005 04:34 PM

You whiny little bitch.

Schoenauer 07-01-2005 04:38 PM

Are you just calling me stupid because I don't like Hardcore Holly and you were personally offended, or are you just saying that because I appreciate Captain Charisma more than you?

Lara Emily 07-01-2005 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Prodigy
Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.

Rrrrigh all the shit that's happened with the title and you keep watching for 25 years but the minute Christian, an above average worker at the very least, wins you're done? Instant crediblity there http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/blah.gif. Not to mention you seem to rank AJ Styles above Dibiase and Owen Hart.

darkpower 07-01-2005 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Prodigy
Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.

For one thing, Christian is becoming a top draw right now, which is something the WWE needs on either brand to get people to want to watch it again. His Captian Charisma gimmick is getting over with the fans, and that is something that they can use to their advantage. Giving him a title run should be among their plans right now, and I'm not sure why you're not liking him. Sure, he's no Bret Hart, Eddie Guererro or Kurt Angle, but he's got the charisma (hence his gimmick name) necessary and more skills than some of the WWE roster right now.

Plus, this is the type of stuff that I thought the WWE should do for SmackDown so people will WANT to watch on Friday nights. So they will WANT to watch two wrestling shows, so they CAN piss off the RAW fanboys in saying, "look, we got this other show you should be liking and watching, too." And Christian is one of those guys that they should be doing.

Plus imagine him winning the WHC, then him and Cena have a interpromotinal match at Summerslam for the ultimate Champion vs. Champion match.

Watson 07-01-2005 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily
Rrrrigh all the shit that's happened with the title and you keep watching for 25 years but the minute Christian, an above average worker at the very least, wins you're done? Instant crediblity there http://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/blah.gif. Not to mention you seem to rank AJ Styles above Dibiase and Owen Hart.

First of all Christian being an above average wrestler is your opinion. You may think fact but I would disagree and I'm sure there are others who would disagree as well as those that do agree. Everybody sees things differently. IMO Christian is average at best.

Secondly I didn't rank AJ Styles above DiBiase and Owen Hart as far as being a great wrestler I said especially not AJ Styles based on AJ's in-ring ability. AJ doesn't even compare to DiBiase and Hart in the storytelling aspect of wrestling. I emphasized AJ Styles because Christian is nowhere near being even remotely as good as an in-ring performer as AJ Styles.

darkpower 07-01-2005 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Prodigy
First of all Christian being an above average wrestler is your opinion. You may think fact but I would disagree and I'm sure there are others who would disagree as well as those that do agree. Everybody sees things differently. IMO Christian is average at best.

Secondly I didn't rank AJ Styles above DiBiase and Owen Hart as far as being a great wrestler I said especially not AJ Styles based on AJ's in-ring ability. AJ doesn't even compare to DiBiase and Hart in the storytelling aspect of wrestling. I emphasized AJ Styles because Christian is nowhere near being even remotely as good as an in-ring performer as AJ Styles.

First off, she is taking on your ignorance to Christian possibly being a main event in that notion that you said you would stop watching if Christain ever became the WWE Champ or the WHC. The WWE Champ is now on Cena (someone that the internet fans seem to hate with a fucking passion) and the WHC has been HHH-branded for years. How is giving Christian either belt making things worse?

And you're acting as though there is no room for improvement, and that he can never improve his in-ring abilities.

Bottom line is that the WWE is getting him over in that he's becoming a likeabile heel.

In my mind, you must've confused Christian with Tyson Tomko.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 05:19 PM

Christian > You

Watson 07-01-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Postal Service
Christian > You

Newman > You

Schoenauer 07-01-2005 05:23 PM

Christian > Hardcore Holly

So therefore

Christian > You.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 05:30 PM

Prodigy > The Prodigy

Shadow 07-01-2005 05:32 PM

Look Progcore....not everyone can be a bully like Hardkore Holly. Some people earn their shots through hard work and dermination to find something that sticks. Not everyone can just say, "I want a title shot and I want one NOW!".

And yes...CC can actually be the next big thing. Not because he's got the word, "Charisma" in his name. But because he's actually found something that gets him over with the fans. Not us smarks who Vince doesn't care about anyway. But the marks who's attention spans can be measured in nanoseconds. Got it?

Now take it home James Steele.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 05:35 PM

Shadow > The Prodigy

M. Banana 07-01-2005 05:37 PM

Christian > Shadow > Bobcore > Triple H > Chris Masters > ndsftne = cheese < subway

M. Banana 07-01-2005 05:39 PM

poor ndsftne

Shadow 07-01-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Postal Service
Christian > Shadow > Bobcore > Triple H > Chris Masters > ndsftne = cheese < subway

Wow...someone hasn't been around me long.

Or perhaps you are and the contact high is getting to you.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 05:52 PM

I'm M. Banana foo'!

someone fuggin' banned that username

Shadow 07-01-2005 06:10 PM

.............

SOMEONE TELL YOUR HERO! BANANA IS BACK!

You were banned for some other reason...I dunno.

M. Banana 07-01-2005 06:14 PM

shhhh... im pretty sure he knows i have this username btw

make a topic and ask why i was banned

ill give you some shrooms or something

Shadow 07-01-2005 06:28 PM

I do pot...not shrooms.

No wonder you were banned.

Just John 07-01-2005 06:41 PM

You remind me of a palm tree that randomly appears out of nowhere, says a strange comment then flies off....

Loose Cannon 07-01-2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Prodigy
Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.


WOW, your opinion, but I don't get it at all. The guy busts his ass every time he goes out there and GETS A REACTION. Isn't that what a wrestler is suppossed to do? He has been buried countless times and is still over with the fans. How you cannot appreciate that makes me wonder if you're really a wrestling fan. I give the guy all the credit he deserves because he's not a guy that plays the political game, as he takes what gets and does wonders with anything. One of Vince's favorites? Where did you even here that from? Trust me, with the talent he has, he would be Champion and be getting a mega push if he was one of Vince's favorites.

Just John 07-01-2005 06:48 PM

I can't beleive somone said that about Christian I'm not getting into a fight or nothing but I have to take obvious sides with LC the 'E' in WWE is for entertainment and Christian entertains me.

Loose Cannon 07-01-2005 06:52 PM

Oh yea and AJ Styles. Pretty dumb to compare WWE wrestlers and Indy wrestlers because WWE wrestlers are always limited on what they can do in the ring. I mean AJ has never worked for a big company yet. Half those moves he does probably wouldn't be allowed. AJ has poor psychology, lacks a little in mic work and does a lot of flashy moves. He's good, yea. But it depends on what we're actually comparing here and the preference of the person.

Watson 07-01-2005 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
WOW, your opinion, but I don't get it at all. The guy busts his ass every time he goes out there and GETS A REACTION. Isn't that what a wrestler is suppossed to do? He has been buried countless times and is still over with the fans. How you cannot appreciate that makes me wonder if you're really a wrestling fan. I give the guy all the credit he deserves because he's not a guy that plays the political game, as he takes what gets and does wonders with anything. One of Vince's favorites? Where did you even here that from? Trust me, with the talent he has, he would be Champion and be getting a mega push if he was one of Vince's favorites.

That's a good point; Christian has busted his ass for the company for that I give him all the credit in the world. But that still doesn't mean he should be World Champion. He's been buried quite often too. But both those things are what a wrestler is supposed to do. Just because he's busted his ass for WWE for about 8 or 9 years and has been buried a few times doesn't mean he should be main eventing. I don't see nothing about Christian that makes him special or stand out in any kind of way. He's got a stupid gimmick and his wrestling skills are nothing great either. In my opinion a main eventer should be intense and energetic and exciting to watch. Christian is just a generic worker, period, and generic workers getting titles is why WWE is in the shape it's in now.

Everybody keeps talking about how damn over Christian is but it doesn't seem that way to me. His pops are nowhere near as big as Cena's and many people say that Cena shouldn't be where he is. I'm not a big fan of Cena either but atleast he's somewhat exciting to watch. Christian is about as exciting as watching paint dry. Say what you want about why Christian should be pushed toward a World title run but the bottom line is he's just another guy that the "Internet smarks" thinks is being held down and therefore everyone bitches about how he should be pushed. Then when somebody like myself points out how damn overrated that particular wrestler is then people get all offended. Well I don't give a damn what anybody says Christian will never win the WWE or World title because he just ain't good enough. End of story.

Loose Cannon 07-01-2005 07:48 PM

I don't think he should be champion right now because he hasn't been built up like a HHH yet. Only those guys should be the champions because of the strong buildups. But Christian has never and probably will never be given a strong build. You can't deny the crowd reaction every week. Add in victories for 7 months straight over strong opponents and you've got yourself a main eventer, who can work the mic, work the crowd and actually wrestle. Not a seen combo these days, except with a few.

No his pops aren't as big as Cena's. Cena is a babyface who've they pushed strong for the past year or so. Of course they would be bigger then a midcard heels. You're the first person I've heard (Internet or Casual fan) say Christian is as exciting as watching paint dry, but whatever.

What exactly don't you like about him that you like about others on the roster? Actually, who is your favorite wrestlers on the roster?


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