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Dave Youell 07-30-2005 05:38 AM

The Juice (no, not Juvi)
 
There's been some talk recently on the boards about Angle and his doubling in size, who do you think is on the Juice and who do you think has never touched the stuff.

Has/Is doing them:

Steiner
Angle
Test
HHH
Edge
Jamie Knoble

Hasn't:

Paul London
Spanky
Spike Dudley?
Basically most cruiserweights

Ben Rodrigues 07-30-2005 05:43 AM

Shawn Michaels & Bret Hart haven't.

Rey Mysterio & Eddie Guerrero have.

Chris Benoit looks pretty juiced himself.

Dave Youell 07-30-2005 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Rodrigues
Shawn Michaels & Bret Hart haven't.

Rey Mysterio & Eddie Guerrero have.

Chris Benoit looks pretty juiced himself.

I don't think Benoit has, just by watching his DVD and how big he was at a young age, just seems like he puts alot of work into his gym work

Boondock Saint 07-30-2005 05:49 AM

Steiner? You really think so? Lets be serious now.

Boondock Saint 07-30-2005 05:50 AM

I can see Batista doing them, or he is just really really ripped. Masters too.

What Would Kevin Do? 07-30-2005 05:51 AM

I'm pretty sure Jericho hasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if Big Show hadn't.

Ben Rodrigues 07-30-2005 05:52 AM

Ahh, well alright then.

Other names who I’d like to throw around.

On/was on roids – Vince, Batista, Randy Orton, Hogan, Road Warriors, Ahmed Johnson, Davey Boy Smith, Chyna

Not – Rob Van Dam, Chris Jericho?, Foley, Owen Hart, Dreamer, Sandman

- edit - On second thought... You really think Benoit could keep that build with a full time wrestling schedule without some help?

Boondock Saint 07-30-2005 05:53 AM

LOL Sandman.

I'd say no to Cena and Carlito, as well.

Chavo Classic 07-30-2005 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell
I don't think Benoit has, just by watching his DVD and how big he was at a young age, just seems like he puts alot of work into his gym work

Just because he's a holy god to wrestling fans and icon on forums doesn't mean he's not on 'roids. The sun does not shine out of his arse, no matter how dam talented he is. Just look at his arms for fucks sake.

There's no way with all the travelling and scheduling involved, that Benoit can find himself enough time to hit the gym that hard.

Chavo Classic 07-30-2005 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boondock Saint
I can see Batista doing them, or he is just really really ripped. Masters too.

The chronic acne on Batista's back seems to give him away fairly easily

Boondock Saint 07-30-2005 06:22 AM

Yes, I concur.

Chavo Classic 07-30-2005 06:26 AM

Why thank you good sir

BatistaBomb 07-30-2005 09:41 AM

i dont think angle is because he was almost the size he is now in the olympics and if you read angles book where he talks about the way he trains then you'll agree it's all natural
as far as benoit goes i dont think he is either
now batista yea i'm a huge batista fan but i'll admit it's a damn good possibility he is or was on them
now for the guy who said the road warriors were you need to go fuck yourself dude watch the damn lod dvd and you will see they were the same size when they first started so dont even start that with me
and as far as the british bulldog goes yes he was on them but i think it's best we respect the dead and dont even start badmouthing the guy

Ben Rodrigues 07-30-2005 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BatistaBomb
i dont think angle is because he was almost the size he is now in the olympics and if you read angles book where he talks about the way he trains then you'll agree it's all natural
as far as benoit goes i dont think he is either
now batista yea i'm a huge batista fan but i'll admit it's a damn good possibility he is or was on them
now for the guy who said the road warriors were you need to go fuck yourself dude watch the damn lod dvd and you will see they were the same size when they first started so dont even start that with me
and as far as the british bulldog goes yes he was on them but i think it's best we respect the dead and dont even start badmouthing the guy

Interesting...

The Mackem 07-30-2005 09:59 AM

lol

Volchok 07-30-2005 11:30 AM

Wow... Don't get BatistaBomb angry.

McLegend 07-30-2005 11:44 AM

I'm pretty sure every wrestler has taken steriods at one time or another

Volchok 07-30-2005 11:50 AM

Not Scott Steiner that's all natural...

McLegend 07-30-2005 11:53 AM

A sarcastic remark about Steiner was all ready made.

Innovator 07-30-2005 11:55 AM

Raven admits to taking them back in the day

Eddie definitely does, or has

Snitsky. His backacne might say otherwise though

Stickman 07-30-2005 11:56 AM

I think I remember watching something, it could have been "Off the Record" here in Canada and I believe Edge said he did. I could be completely wrong.

Also, did Ric Flair admit in his book to taking them?

Bad Company 07-30-2005 11:59 AM

Definately Spike Dudley

BatistaBomb 07-30-2005 12:36 PM

edge admitted to it
flair said in his book he had steroids for his broken back but not for muscle wise which all you have to do is look at ric and you can tell that

Just John 07-30-2005 01:08 PM

When Edge admitted he 'Juiced' his carrer it was almost exactly a year after Ric Flair admitted it, ON THE SAME SHOW!

Sepholio 07-30-2005 01:21 PM

I dunno who has or hasn't to be honest, and I don't like to jump to conclusions, but there are an awful lot of wrestlers with the whole bacne thing going on.

Gouda 07-30-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boondock Saint
LOL Sandman.

I'd say no to Cena and Carlito, as well.

I'd say yes to Cena.

The Naitch 07-30-2005 01:55 PM

-Eddie has definitely juiced up since his heel turn
-Jericho probably has a couple of years back (2001-2002). Looks like isnt on the crank right now though
-Cena. Hell yes.
-Masters
-Benoit. Yes
-HBK in th epast. Not now
-Angle. Hell yes
-Jordan

You can tell by the hardness. Summer time seems like a prefered time

BatistaBomb 07-30-2005 03:24 PM

a big no on cena i watched the before they were stars thing and john was almost as big in high school playing football
i really dont think john is on them

James Steele 07-30-2005 03:26 PM

FUCK. YOU GUYS ARE RUINING IT!

James Steele 07-30-2005 03:33 PM

LOL

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/337/picture15ui.jpg

The Naitch 07-30-2005 03:44 PM

nice

James Steele 07-30-2005 05:16 PM

Yeah, the forum was kinda dead so I decided to make it somewhat interesting.

Vastardikai 07-31-2005 02:44 AM

Someone above said Randy Orton. If he is on 'Roids, he needs to give the supplier an RKO. Because, look at him...

http://obsessedwithwrestling.com/pic...dyorton/10.jpg

Somebody slipped that dude some Flintstone Vitamins...

He isn't really built to carry alot of muscle.

As far as people who did, I can think of another Randy...

Before... http://obsessedwithwrestling.com/pic...ysavage/22.jpg

and After... http://obsessedwithwrestling.com/pic...madness/05.jpg

The Defense rests...

Ruien 07-31-2005 02:59 AM

Todd Grisham :shifty:

The_Next_Big_Hook_up 07-31-2005 03:02 AM

Batista was a pro body builder before he became a wrestler so I'm kinda on the fence on that one......And as far as angle goes I think his arm mass has decreased since he had surgery, and his training regime was hardcore as was already pointed out by a reader of his book.

Edge definately has to be on roids at this point and time cause if you look at him back before he went out with the broken neck and when he came back, you wouldn't be able to put yourself into shape like that with the rehab and shit. A wrestler isn't even allowed to consider any heavy weight training or heavy cardio exercises until at least a two months before they are cleared to return to the ring.

The_Next_Big_Hook_up 07-31-2005 03:04 AM

Also Macho Man openly admitted to using steroids during his run with the WWF.

Nowhere Man 07-31-2005 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
I wouldn't be surprised if Big Show hadn't.

Same. At his size, I'm honestly surprised he doesn't have the same sort of health problems Andre did, and steroids wouldn't make things any better.

Fox 07-31-2005 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Next_Big_Hook_up
Batista was a pro body builder before he became a wrestler so I'm kinda on the fence on that one......

Oh yeah, since professional body builders never use illegal supplements to improve muscle gain. :roll:


I don't think Benoit uses steroids. He has had noticeable muscle gain since the beginning of his career - little by little. He's such a professional and has so much respect for the wrestling aspect of the business as opposed to the entertainment/image side that I would think it'd be below his level of morals to take steroids. In his DVD, there is even a story about how Chris would always be late to class after lunch because he'd be in the school gym pumping iron. With determination like that (plus the obvious lack of friends), why couldn't Benoit be all natural?

If Edge is using, he ought to sue someone - it ain't working.

Orton is definitely using. There's such a huge difference between his body type when he entered the WWE and right after he won the World Title. I noticed that he was getting bloated and huge like a month after Summerslam. Somebody find pictures - that's not my gimmick.

Mysterio has definitely used steroids. He was like Paul London/Spike Dudley size in WCW - now he's fucking huge for 5'6". Eddie too.

TerranRich 07-31-2005 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox
Oh yeah, since professional body builders never use illegal supplements to improve muscle gain. :roll:

Don't they rigorously test for that stuff?

Chavo Classic 07-31-2005 12:54 PM

What about Nitro? There's noteable difference since TE3 and his role in MNM.


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