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Ol Dirty Dastard 10-02-2005 05:52 PM

Has anyone lost any respect for Matt Hughs?
 
I dunno, I've been reading around, and a lot of the reports on TUF are complaining about Matt's coaching style.

While I'll admit he's a HUGE asshole, I can't say I'm losing any respect. In fact, it's making me like him more. You can tell he's just having some fun with this show, creating himself a character.

And like fuck, he's Matt fucking Hughs, he's way more fucking hardcore than any of these fucking pansies on the show, so I can understand his frustration from time to time.

And even when he was kicking the shit out of Luke and Jason which I would say is inexcusable, I was just like "nice :cool:" because I think he knows he's assumed a certain role on the show, and he knows what he is doing.


However, I think the UFC fans are gonna love him for how he's acting, because he is just a crazy hardass.

YOUR Hero 10-02-2005 06:16 PM

Well he trash talks and then when one of his fighters looses, he tells the winner he lost respect for him because he showboats. Sorry but those two things are equal. So he's either plain stupid or a hypocrite.

OMG, maybe he's both!!

YOUR Hero 10-02-2005 06:18 PM

Now.

When it comes to his abilities. There are none better. But that's not what we're discussin here.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-03-2005 08:35 AM

He's a farmer boy from Iowa or something. I don't expect him to be particularly bright.

He's just such a tough bastard it's hard to hate him.

AareDub 10-03-2005 06:46 PM

He's still my favorite fighter. A lot of things that pissed him off on the show are the same things that would piss me off. I can't stand people doing things half assed, especially when they'be been given such an amazing opportunity.

Nark Order 10-05-2005 06:57 PM

He's really playing the game with expert strategy and precision. Everything he does, it seems that he does it for a reason. It does sound a bit harsh that he'd send Jason packing to the other team after he just beat one of the best fighters on the show but Hughes knows what he's doing. Think about it. Jason is beat to hell now and has a cut over his eye. Easy pickings for Hughes's guys.

Sometimes I can't decide whether Hughes is an asshole or a genius.

Nark Order 10-05-2005 06:58 PM

And who else thinks that Luke is going to surprise the hell out of everybody and put a big time ass beating on someone?

YOUR Hero 10-06-2005 10:06 AM

He never congratulated Jason for his win. He ignored him and was completely out of line for never giving the guy any type of moral support. That's not being a genius, it's called being a poor leader.

It's one thing to be critical and push your guys hard, but when you do this, you have to be equally generous in your praise when they succeed.

Great fighter, yes. Terrible manager.

AareDub 10-06-2005 12:36 PM

He said on one of the first few episodes that he was only interested in good fighters because the show isn't long enough for him to turn a mediocre fighter into a great fighter. Jason is a mediocre fighter at best, that is why Hughes isn't interested in him.

I'm not defending the logic, just putting it out there for the sake of the discussion.

YOUR Hero 10-06-2005 10:00 PM

mediocre. Sure, but who isn't. I'm not impressed yet by any of these guys.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-07-2005 10:17 AM

Joe Stevenson seems to be fucking awesome. He put a hurting on Marcus.

Nark Order 10-07-2005 05:37 PM

Marcus should've never fought Joe. He would've made it to at least the semi-finals for sure

Bubs 10-08-2005 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
mediocre. Sure, but who isn't. I'm not impressed yet by any of these guys.

Neither am I.

AareDub 10-08-2005 03:09 PM

I think Josh Burkman was the most impressive fighter thus far. Jorge looks like he would be a great fighter at his natural weight class.

Nark Order 10-08-2005 04:26 PM

Naw, I'd say either Joe or Seth has thus far been the most impressive. Joe basically destroyed the best striker on Team Franklin BY FAR and Seth really proved himself to be very quick on his feet and innovative in his offense.

KillerWolf 10-08-2005 05:28 PM

Joe will win the welter weight division. no doubt about it.

YOUR Hero 10-08-2005 09:26 PM

Luke Cammo(SP?). I'm interested in seeing him fight... Damn, I missed a couple episodes... I think?? Jesus. I hope not... Anyway, I think he might have something worth seeing in regards to in ring skill.


(this guy)
http://www.spiketv.com/shows/series/...uke187x100.jpg
http://www.spiketv.com/sitewide/img/spc.gif

Crimson 10-09-2005 12:54 PM

I think Seth has been the most impressive. He has great reaction/defensive skills. As for Hughes I think he's being a hardass on purpose, and doesn't care for being a fair coach, or good guy. He's just working their asses off to make them earn a spot in the UFC.

Nark Order 10-11-2005 02:58 AM

*spoilers*































































I was right. Everyone underestimated Luke and he absolutely destroyed his first opponent. Anthony didn't even stand a chance.

AareDub 10-11-2005 03:09 PM

Luke looked like a kid in a street fight last night. He might win another fight on the show, but I don't think he'd do so well in the big leagues.

KillerWolf 10-12-2005 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AareDub
Luke looked like a kid in a street fight last night. He might win another fight on the show, but I don't think he'd do so well in the big leagues.

he is definitely lacking in ground skills. he has great endurance though.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-12-2005 06:07 PM

His ground skills weren't that bad, he fucking put a hurting on Anthony on the ground.

I think he would get run by Joe Stevenson though. I wanna see him vs. Von Flue, because they are both standup sluggers.

Innovator 10-12-2005 06:20 PM

He should be a hardass after two guys dropped out the first week. He wants to make sure that these guys earn their shot.

BTW Luke is damn good in the octagon

fantix 10-14-2005 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AareDub
He's still my favorite fighter. A lot of things that pissed him off on the show are the same things that would piss me off. I can't stand people doing things half assed, especially when they'be been given such an amazing opportunity.

He's one of the best fighters, no doubt. But did you see his match against the Brazilian guy that was hella flexible in UFC 50 or 51? I forgot which it was but damn that match sucked.

fantix 10-14-2005 01:04 AM

Let's not forget fellas, he had his ass handed to him by BJ Penn. He would not have the most title victories if it weren't for BJ getting kicked off for being an idiot.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-18-2005 12:04 AM

Man, Mike Whitehead is a pussy if I've ever seen one. Props to Rashad though, he had a fire lit under his ass, and he humiliated Matt Hughs and Mike Whitehead.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-18-2005 12:05 AM

Like honestly, if I was ever in that competition, and I knew I was gonna lose, or felt the fight slipping away, I'd rather get knocked out and go down swinging, because that's pride, not giving up with 10 seconds left.

Humiliating.

Apocolyptik1 10-18-2005 01:29 AM

Yes that match was disgusting.

They are bringing someone back next week and I already have a feeling of who it might be. If you watched the preview for next week, rashad has an injured arm and might not continue, and somehow while training, Jason gets a nasty cut on his forehead. Right now, Team Franklin is sitting at 3 heavyweights and 1 welterweight. If they loose a heavyweight, they will still have the advantage over Matt's 1 heavyweight Brad. However, if they loose Jason, then Franklin has no more welterweights. So they could trade a welter over to Franklin, OR they could bring Josh back because he never was truly eliminated (he was forced out because of his injured arm).

So what say you guys?

AareDub 10-18-2005 02:55 PM

Josh's arm was still injured at that point, and he was on Hughe's team anyway. The previews specifically said they bring back a welterweight from Team Franklin.

They are past the point of team vs team now, it's the semis. The numbers don't matter anymore. Next week they will announce the 2 semifinal fights and they will show the at least one, if not both, of the welterweight matches. Last year they did teammate vs teammate, but this year the teams are 3-1.

Crimson 10-18-2005 11:26 PM

Yea it dont matter who is on who's team now. They will just pair them up in a 4 man bracket and that's it..may the best men win.

Apocolyptik1 10-19-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson
Yea it dont matter who is on who's team now. They will just pair them up in a 4 man bracket and that's it..may the best men win.

Ok...since it doesnt matter who's on who's team, then I still think that they might bring Josh back.

THey are definetly bringing someone back, so who do you guys think it will be? It cant be anyone who "lost" a match. It has to be someone they released, which narrowes it to like 3 peeps. He's the only one that didnt quit or loose that was ejected except the real big dude that had to leave because of his torn meniscus.

GOD DAMN SOMEONE TAKE A GUESS AT WHO IT MIGHT BE SO ITS MORE EXCITING!

Nark Order 10-19-2005 07:09 PM

It's definately Jorge. No doubt about it. Dana is obsessed with his effort.

However, if it isn't Jorge then it will be Marcus. Marcus never got an actual chance to show what he could do because it was a bad match up. If it is Marcus, the welterweights are definately fucked. He is by far one of the best strikers I've ever seen (download some fights. He's crazy)

Nark Order 10-19-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocolyptik1
Ok...since it doesnt matter who's on who's team, then I still think that they might bring Josh back.

THey are definetly bringing someone back, so who do you guys think it will be? It cant be anyone who "lost" a match. It has to be someone they released, which narrowes it to like 3 peeps. He's the only one that didnt quit or loose that was ejected except the real big dude that had to leave because of his torn meniscus.

GOD DAMN SOMEONE TAKE A GUESS AT WHO IT MIGHT BE SO ITS MORE EXCITING!

It can be somebody that 'lost'. Remember last year? Leben lost to Koscheck and was brought back into the game.

AareDub 10-20-2005 02:23 AM

Ok, again, it is NOT Josh. Josh's harm had not healed by the time they were filming this. That is why he had to leave the house in the first place. His arm was not going to be healed by the time the show was done taping.

I would also expect (and hope) it to be Jorge, but he had a pretty serious knee injury as well. I'm betting it will be Marcus.

Really, as long as somebody beats the shit out of Von Flue I'll be happy.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-20-2005 08:07 AM

lol Von Flue is a bit of a homo but he's not a bad guy. At least he respects his opponents, and gives it 110% in the octagon.

Nark Order 10-20-2005 12:49 PM

All I'm saying is that if Marcus comes back... This competition is gonna get turned upside down. Granted, he'd prolly still have a problem with Joe but I guarentee he'd knock out Sam, Luke, and Jason without a sweat. The dude is rock solid.

YOUR Hero 10-25-2005 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Luke Cammo(SP?). I'm interested in seeing him fight...
(this guy)
http://www.spiketv.com/shows/series/...uke187x100.jpg


http://www.spiketv.com/sitewide/img/spc.gif

Look whose's going to the finals. :cool:

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-25-2005 12:16 AM

Man that was a crazy crazy crazy fight. lol brutal ko by Luke, I was pulling for him the whole time.

Next week's fight looks like a serious brawl as well. Finally, it's all coming together.

Nark Order 10-25-2005 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
And who else thinks that Luke is going to surprise the hell out of everybody and put a big time ass beating on someone?


Nark Order 10-25-2005 04:38 AM

That knee by Luke was fucking disgusting. Brutal display of violence. I love it.


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