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Dave Youell 10-19-2005 05:09 PM

Ha! Kid Kash has already got heat backstage
 
Kid Kash was originally scheduled to work this past weekends SmackDown! brand house shows but was pulled because of a dress code infraction. Kash was at the TV tapings last week and was present during Vince McMahon' meeting about being late and the dress code. Kash was apparently seen by agents at the airport in jeans and a t-shirt at 5AM. Kash was removed because of this and replaced with Nunzio. Kash has been sent back to Deep South Wrestling and there are actually some who believe his job could be in danger because of this. Managements feeling is that there are loads of other guys who would love to be a part of the main roster and would be willing to follow the 'rules'.
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Wow! That's got to be a new record

The One 10-19-2005 05:10 PM

Nothing says "Please fire me" like walking throw an airport in jeans and a T....fuck WWE. Kash is one of the best free talents out there, and because he disn't wear a fucking suit, in a place where I bet only 3 people knew who he was (2 of them probably be fellow WWE employees)...ah fuck it...fuck them.

The Naitch 10-19-2005 05:22 PM

hahaha

LK 10-19-2005 05:24 PM

To quote Eric Cartman, "weak", stupid WWE.

Shadow 10-19-2005 05:33 PM

Wow.....5AM in an airport and he got busted for not wearing a suit....

Fuck you WWE.

Nark Order 10-19-2005 05:40 PM

Dunno why you guys are freaking out. He knew the rules and didn't follow them, his own fault.

Shadow 10-19-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
Dunno why you guys are freaking out. He knew the rules and didn't follow them, his own fault.

It's a dumbass rule.

Cause I know that when I wake up for a 6 AM flight, first thing I do is put on my suit and tie.

Anybody Thrilla 10-19-2005 06:10 PM

Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

Jaton 10-19-2005 06:14 PM

While I agree that it is stupid, I can't help but have some sympathy for him. He IS a really good talent, and I'd hate to see it wasted by him not following their dumbass dress code. I mean shit, at least cuss out HHH to get fired or something. I don't know. ;\

Anybody Thrilla 10-19-2005 06:18 PM

C'mon Jaton, there has to be a point at SOME time during your wrestling enjoyment where you become desensitized to all of the talents not being treated fairly. This is a fairly common thing. Kid Kash should be aware of things like this. If somebody told me I could have my dream job, but I'd just have to wear a suit at all times, I'd fucking do it in a heartbeat. No sympathy from me.

PorkSoda 10-19-2005 06:19 PM

So you have to wear a suit to be in WWE? That sucks. I would do the same thing Kash did and wear whatever I want. I hate wearing suits and it just...sucks

Anybody Thrilla 10-19-2005 06:20 PM

He already wears tights. A suit is a step up, in my opinion.

PullMyFinger 10-19-2005 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

I agree. It's a WWE policy, and anyone who sympathizes with Kash needs to get over it. That's the real world for ya!

Rob 10-19-2005 06:49 PM

Real world? WWE isn't part of the real world.

WWE can't enforce dress codes outside of their TV shows. Technically, they can't even enforce it backstage because wrestling talent are not employees. They are all classed as "independent contractors". And don't even argue that they are employees because they aren't. Had this arguement here before and people will get embarrassed if they argue they are employees.

Basically WWE is holding guys by the balls in that they know they are the only place you can work and make a good regular income. If another company was around, this rule wouldn't be.

Do you think it really effects drawing power? Yeah I'm really gonna pay more money to see the Undertaker, Tito Ortiz or Oscar De La Hoya if they are wearing suits.

I wish they put as much effort into their TV product as they do to stupid fucking dress codes.

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
It's a dumbass rule.

Cause I know that when I wake up for a 6 AM flight, first thing I do is put on my suit and tie.

You get fired a lot, don't you.

TerranRich 10-19-2005 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

Sounds kinda mindless and drone-like to me. ;)

Serirously though, it's a stupid reason to get "heat". Hassan got heat for not listening to one of the legends' advice. That's reasonable and makes sense. But for wearing normal clothes in an airport when you work for a wrestling company? Even I wouldn't bother wearing a goddamn suit. Rules or no rules, it's ridiculous. And like someone above me said, WWE isn't in the real world. :p

Disturbed316 10-19-2005 07:08 PM

Christ, at 5am people would be lucky to be seeing my in my jimmy jams, let alone a fucking suit.

Shadow 10-19-2005 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Dumbass rule or not, it's still a rule in an establishment that has been successful for a very long time now. If he has a problem with the rules, maybe there's somebody he can talk to to try and change them (probably wouldn't be able to do this alone, but maybe if other people agreed that it was a dumb rule), but blantantly breaking them so soon after a meeting that specifically said not to was a dumb move on his part.

The dress code rule probably isn't even one that the WWE cares THAT much about, but it is probably used more of a device to see who is a 'team player' and who is...well, Kid Kash.

I admire his abilities in the ring, but this is the big leagues. This is where everybody wants to be in the field of professional wrestling. He's fortunate enough to have an opportunity, and he should be smart enough to not blow it on something so miniscule.

Hey AT...shut up.

It's 5 in the fucking morning. You have just woken up and your flight is at 7 in the morning. Are you really gonna put on a suit and tie just to get on a fucking airplane? Are you fucking insane?

KayfabeMan 10-19-2005 08:20 PM

ROB :heart:

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
Hey AT...shut up.

It's 5 in the fucking morning. You have just woken up and your flight is at 7 in the morning. Are you really gonna put on a suit and tie just to get on a fucking airplane? Are you fucking insane?

That is such a pathetic crybaby excuse it's not even funny.

Did he know he had a 7 AM flight?

Did he know about the dress code?

Did he know his job would include travel at fucked up hours?

What's that? Yes? You mean, this didn't come out of nowhere? So where's the fucking problem? When you're a professional, you do a professional job. If you feel appearing in public dressed in a suit is unreasonable, go work at Burger King.

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Real world? WWE isn't part of the real world.

WWE can't enforce dress codes outside of their TV shows. Technically, they can't even enforce it backstage because wrestling talent are not employees. They are all classed as "independent contractors". And don't even argue that they are employees because they aren't. Had this arguement here before and people will get embarrassed if they argue they are employees.

Basically WWE is holding guys by the balls in that they know they are the only place you can work and make a good regular income. If another company was around, this rule wouldn't be.

Do you think it really effects drawing power? Yeah I'm really gonna pay more money to see the Undertaker, Tito Ortiz or Oscar De La Hoya if they are wearing suits.

I wish they put as much effort into their TV product as they do to stupid fucking dress codes.

They can't enforce it in any legal sense, but since they can affect how and where you're working, they really DO affect it. The issue is, since they're contracted and not emlpoyees, they don't even have the right to fight it (IIRC).

Nark Order 10-19-2005 08:34 PM

Stupid rule or not. It's a rule. He knew the rule and blatatantly chose to ignore it. It's his fault. The end.

I do not see what the big uproar is about here. He was being a complete moron at the time and will have to face the consequences. Any other company with a dress code woud have done something similar, it's called defiance. If he follows the rules from now on he should be fine.

redoneja 10-19-2005 08:41 PM

Not like they were really gonna use him anyway...

Shadow 10-19-2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
That is such a pathetic crybaby excuse it's not even funny.

Did he know he had a 7 AM flight?

Did he know about the dress code?

Did he know his job would include travel at fucked up hours?

What's that? Yes? You mean, this didn't come out of nowhere? So where's the fucking problem? When you're a professional, you do a professional job. If you feel appearing in public dressed in a suit is unreasonable, go work at Burger King.

You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.

Gertner 10-19-2005 08:49 PM

They could have a rule where you have to wear a plastic bowl on your head at all time. It doesn't matter, a rule is a rule.

Nark Order 10-19-2005 08:53 PM

He made a bad first impression by breaking WWE's dress codes standards. It's not the end of the world. Get over it.

PullMyFinger 10-19-2005 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
That is such a pathetic crybaby excuse it's not even funny.

Did he know he had a 7 AM flight?

Did he know about the dress code?

Did he know his job would include travel at fucked up hours?

What's that? Yes? You mean, this didn't come out of nowhere? So where's the fucking problem? When you're a professional, you do a professional job. If you feel appearing in public dressed in a suit is unreasonable, go work at Burger King.

Bravo.

The Naitch 10-19-2005 09:09 PM

yeah, fuck Kid Kash. He fucked up. His own fault

PullMyFinger 10-19-2005 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.

That's not the point though. The point is, it's a rule that the company made, and any employee of that company has to follow the rule (as long as the rule itself is a legit one, not like revert to another religion of course). If they don't want to, simple as that..they can leave. Do I like that code? No. Does Kid Kash like it? Obviously not. However, the rules are the rule.

It's like going to class shirtless with board shorts as if you're going to the beach. Against the rules and you'll be told to leave the campus.

RemyRed 10-19-2005 09:14 PM

lol Shadow relaxxx. Hmm, I wonder if Shadow ever lost his job due to a dress code at his company.

The Naitch 10-19-2005 09:15 PM

fuck shadow and fuck kid kash

Shadow 10-19-2005 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RemyRed
lol Shadow relaxxx. Hmm, I wonder if Shadow ever lost his job due to a dress code at his company.

Nope. Got canned for attempting to steal porn mags but never for dress code.

weather vane 10-19-2005 10:18 PM

There is no excuse it is his own fault. I still think it's one of the stupidest rules I have ever heard. WWE is becoming way too corporate and they need to just concentrate on wrestling.

Do people give a shit if Chris Benoit is wearing a suit or not? I think not.

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
You can just go straight to hell sir. Straight to hell.

This is why the WWe is so mad with power. This fucking dress code shit ruins lots of people. It's just another reason why the WWE sucks so damn much right now. So let's hurry up TNA and give the WWE something else to worry about besides a dress code.

They're mad with power because they're the only major US wrestling promotion. It has nothing to do with people getting up at 5 AM to catch a 7 AM flight, or even professionalism.

The dress code seems like the thing least likely to ruin people, and if they cannot handle the workload, there are less stressful professions to choose from.

I don't agree with it, but it's a copout to complain that it's unfair to expect people to follow the rules or be professional, especially when you ciite "time"or "just woke up" issues.

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
Nope. Got canned for attempting to steal porn mags but never for dress code.

You didn't even get away with it>?

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 10:33 PM

Oh, the NBA's making something like this a rule now too.

Pepsi Man 10-19-2005 10:47 PM

Independent contractors or not, the WWE can make rules and put language in the contracts of these guys. I'm sure if the WWE REALLY couldn't legally do it, someone from the lower card would've tried to sue by now.

Favre4Ever 10-19-2005 10:54 PM

You guys who are saying stupid rule or not it is a rule..........can you at LEAST admit that its a stupid rule?

Nervous Ferret 10-19-2005 10:58 PM

No I don't have a problem with the rule at all Mr. Hogan mark

Wearing a suit everywhere is classy, old school if you will. I can see where people would think it's a stupid rule, but KK is definately at fault for not following the rules if you will.

Also suck Fhadow

Kane Knight 10-19-2005 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Independent contractors or not, the WWE can make rules and put language in the contracts of these guys. I'm sure if the WWE REALLY couldn't legally do it, someone from the lower card would've tried to sue by now.

They can't technically do it, but the wrestlers have no legal recourse either. Catch .22


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