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Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 12:15 PM

What do you think is next for Shelton Benjamin?
 
When he first appeared on Raw, they seemed to be very high on him, giving him multiple victories over Triple H and a lengthy Intercontinental championship run...but now, he couldn't even make the friggin' Survivor Series team. Recently, he's had some solid matches with Angle, and before then he was beaten by Carlito a couple times...but I really don't see anything continuing with either of those programs.

Is he in trouble or something? I do remember a short while where it seemed like he was botching something every week, but he seems to have smoothed that out. It's hard to gauge the crowd reactions on him, but I think people tend to enjoy his work. What would you do with Shelton Benjamin from here?

McLegend 11-28-2005 12:19 PM

People do not care about Shelton Benjamin. He needs a personality.

With that said he will stick around the midcard for a while, and will hold the IC title again.

I say in like 2 or 3 years he will be a main eventer.

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 12:21 PM

Benoit has no personality, so are you saying he's kinda like that? Great wrestler, but allergic to mics?

McLegend 11-28-2005 12:22 PM

Yeah but probably even worse with a mic then Benoit.

Y2Jeremy 11-28-2005 12:29 PM

He has alot of talent, but he needs to find solid high flying moves. Those diving planchas and springboard armwringer reversals are painful to watch because he looks like he is going to fuck up and hurt himself. He really needs to use the mic more, or get a good manager (Ted Dibiase anyone?).

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 12:30 PM

I dunno, I think Benjamin says some potentially good stuff, but his voice and delivery make him sound lightweight retarded. Benoit, while intense, really doesn't talk about anything. He could make going outside and getting the mail sound like an extinction level event.

McLegend 11-28-2005 12:31 PM

Shelton has no timing on the mic

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 12:31 PM

Heat

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 12:32 PM

I was thinking a while back that Kerwin White and Shelton Benjamin (remember that mini-feud) could team up.

Kerwin could start talking to Shelton about how being latino was holding him down, and now he's stepping away from it. He could convince Shelton that he is being held back because he's black, so maybe HE should step away from it too. Have Shelton bleach his hair, and I think not only do you have a solid pairing in Chavo and Benjamin, but some potentially hilarious segments.

CharismaInjection 11-28-2005 12:32 PM

Anyone noticed Lashley's never picked up the mic?

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 12:34 PM

We're talking about the other black guy.

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
We're talking about the other black guy.

There's more than one? Does Vince know about this? ?:?

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 12:54 PM

I think Vince does know. That's why he called Cena "nigga". Trying to look cool in front of Orlando Jordan and The Boogeyman.

dablackguy 11-28-2005 01:09 PM

Vince is the most racist man in wrestling, just saying is all, not complaining, hell we wouldnt have the mexicools with out that fact

Sheldon? He'll be on heat inside of 2 months

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I think Vince does know. That's why he called Cena "nigga". Trying to look cool in front of Orlando Jordan and The Boogeyman.

OJ's black? :?:

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dablackguy
Vince is the most racist man in wrestling, just saying is all, not complaining, hell we wouldnt have the mexicools with out that fact

Sheldon? He'll be on heat inside of 2 months

The most racist? :wtf: Seems a touch extreme.

Just John 11-28-2005 01:36 PM

and yellow, like a giant bee.

Stickman 11-28-2005 01:44 PM

There's Black guys in the WWE? They must be body guards or something.

redoneja 11-28-2005 01:47 PM

Give it time people. Not everyone can be the a maineventer in 2 years. Look how long it took Hart, Michaels, Austin, HHH, Edge, Beniot, JBL, etc.

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redoneja
Give it time people. Not everyone can be the a maineventer in 2 years. Look how long it took Hart, Michaels, Austin, HHH, Edge, Beniot, JBL, etc.

They were also in an atmosphere that provided upward movement.

redoneja 11-28-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
They were also in an atmosphere that provided upward movement.

True for all but JBL.

What a rarity his push was. One week he's in a lower midcard tag team, then within 3 weeks he's changed his gimmick and is challenging for the WWE Champion. Within another month, he IS the Champion. I can't immeadiately recall anyone else who went from curtain-jerking to main-eventing so fast while changing gimmicks. I've heard of new guys coming in and getting a huge push(read: Brock Lesnar), but never someone that was in Bradshaw's position.

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 02:06 PM

To be fair, Bradshaw was kinda 'main eventing' on Raw before his move to Smackdown. Remember when he was teaming with Austin?

I just mean right now, what would be a good thing for Shelton to be doing?

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redoneja
True for all but JBL.

What a rarity his push was. One week he's in a lower midcard tag team, then within 3 weeks he's changed his gimmick and is challenging for the WWE Champion. Within another month, he IS the Champion. I can't immeadiately recall anyone else who went from curtain-jerking to main-eventing so fast while changing gimmicks. I've heard of new guys coming in and getting a huge push(read: Brock Lesnar), but never someone that was in Bradshaw's position.

Wait, all but JBL? If you count JBL as an exception, don't you kind of have to count Edge?

JBL dates pretty far back, and during his history gained the interest of the powers that be. BRadshaw's been pretty high on the card before, and earned his upward mobility in more or less the same way Edge did (They are high on him and will push him regardless of fan reaction). He neither came out of nowhere nor was he previously a "Curtain jerker."

redoneja 11-28-2005 02:12 PM

I don't see a big future for Shelton on Raw, unless he starts a program with Angle or Micheals leading into Wresltlemania. With an apparent Elimination Chamber match at New Year's Revolution, a couple spots on the undercard will open up due to the fact that the top 6 guys will all be in one match. If he isn't in the Chamber match(which he won't be) then feud him with HBK/Angle/Edge or whoever the most prominent person outside of the mainevent is. Hell, let him have another mini-feud with HHH, just to get regular recognition on Raw again.

He most likely won't have a match at the Rumble, besides participating in the Rumble match itself, and since Smackdown has the February PPV, New Year's Revolution will the last PPV before Wrestlemania for Benjamin to make his mark.

redoneja 11-28-2005 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Wait, all but JBL? If you count JBL as an exception, don't you kind of have to count Edge?

JBL dates pretty far back, and during his history gained the interest of the powers that be. BRadshaw's been pretty high on the card before, and earned his upward mobility in more or less the same way Edge did (They are high on him and will push him regardless of fan reaction). He neither came out of nowhere nor was he previously a "Curtain jerker."

But would you have expected JBL to be maineventing Judgement Day 3 weeks after debuting his new gimmick and going single? What I meant was that everyone else moved slower up the singles ranks than Bradshaw did. All the other guys I mentioned spent a good amount of time in the mid-card as a singles wrestler, whereas Bradshaw went right into the mainevent from a midcard team, with a new gimmick.

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 02:18 PM

He was a singles wrestler on Raw. Before he went to Smackdown. 2003.

mrslackalack 11-28-2005 02:23 PM

I wouldnt mind seeing Shelton being managed by the MDM.

redoneja 11-28-2005 02:26 PM

Eh, you're right but the date's wrong. He was a singles wrestler in 2002 on Raw and injured his bicep in October. Next appearance was on Smackdown in July 2003 where he rejoined with Simmons. Teamed with Simmons until May 2004 when Simmons was fired by Paul Heyman.

EDIT- Credit Obsessedwithwrestling.com for the info

Can't believe I forgot about this. I think I've suppressed most of WWE 2002 from my memory. Especially post Wrestlemania X-8.

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 02:38 PM

2002 and 2003 were pretty much the same year anyway.

redoneja 11-28-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by redoneja
I don't see a big future for Shelton on Raw, unless he starts a program with Angle or Micheals leading into Wresltlemania. With an apparent Elimination Chamber match at New Year's Revolution, a couple spots on the undercard will open up due to the fact that the top 6 guys will all be in one match. If he isn't in the Chamber match(which he won't be) then feud him with HBK/Angle/Edge or whoever the most prominent person outside of the mainevent is. Hell, let him have another mini-feud with HHH, just to get regular recognition on Raw again.

He most likely won't have a match at the Rumble, besides participating in the Rumble match itself, and since Smackdown has the February PPV, New Year's Revolution will the last PPV before Wrestlemania for Benjamin to make his mark.

With all that being said, I think he'll stay in mid-card hell for now. :nono:

PullMyFinger 11-28-2005 02:55 PM

Honestly, I'm sorry, but Shelton fucking sucks. I will never like him. Well, when he was WGTT, he was cool. However, since coming to Raw, he's way too boring. He has no personality, and even though he can wrestle great..when I hear his music..I just think "SNOREEEEEEEEEE!" and change the channel.

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2005 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
Honestly, I'm sorry, but Shelton fucking sucks. I will never like him. Well, when he was WGTT, he was cool. However, since coming to Raw, he's way too boring. He has no personality, and even though he can wrestle great..when I hear his music..I just think "SNOREEEEEEEEEE!" and change the channel.

If you think he can "wrestle great", why would you change the channel? Usually, hearing one's theme music is a precursor to them WRESTLING. If it's his personality you don't like, why don't you change the channel when he's standing around backstage or something?

I dunno, I think "sucks" is a very harsh assesment.

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 03:07 PM

PMF, that's very..."mark"-ish.

Y2Jeremy 11-28-2005 03:19 PM

Although he is my favorite "pure" wrestler, Benjamin is very lame. "Ain't No Stoppin Me Nowwww" is the worst "precurser" to have. He bounces to the ring, salutes the crowd on the apron, and then raises his arms in the most basic way. I have been a fan since he debuted for RAW in 2002 on Heat. He became great with Charlie Haas on Smackdown, Then floundered in Midcard hell. All he needs is a push in the right direction (feuding with Jericho was the best).

DaveWadding 11-28-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
Honestly, I'm sorry, but Shelton fucking sucks. I will never like him. Well, when he was WGTT, he was cool. However, since coming to Raw, he's way too boring. He has no personality, and even though he can wrestle great..when I hear his music..I just think "SNOREEEEEEEEEE!" and change the channel.

I'm sorry, but you like MONTY BROWN.

You hear that sound? Yeah, the credibility of your opinion getting flushed down the toilet. Mmkay.

redoneja 11-28-2005 03:28 PM

Hey Hey Hey....

The POUNCE would destroy Shelton Bore-jamin.






Period.


:shifty:

Nervous Ferret 11-28-2005 03:40 PM

slavery

RemyRed 11-28-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret
slavery

Yeah. Amistad.

BlackDawn2024 11-28-2005 04:21 PM

Honestly, if things were up to me(and god I wish they were), Shelton would be WWE Champion right now, or at least going into a program to win the belt.

Kane Knight 11-28-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDawn2024
Honestly, if things were up to me(and god I wish they were), Shelton would be WWE Champion right now, or at least going into a program to win the belt.

It's too soon to put the title on him.

What I'd be doing is giving him another real run with the IC title with at least one main eventer/upper midcard type as his occasional foil. He could put on a few stellar matches with pretty much anyone shy of Big Show. MAKE him work on his mic skills. The guy's got charisma coming out of every orfice EXCEPT his mouth. HE could drop his trunks and SHIT a better promo.


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