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Corndad 01-14-2006 11:43 PM

TLC Match Monday
 
After watching all the past TLC's and seeing the spotfests they can be, How do you guys feel Flair will do Monday vs Edge?

Do you think he can put on a good "TLC" Match ?

James Steele 01-15-2006 12:05 AM

Ric Flair is a wrestling god for a reason. If anybody can do a match this different from their norm, it will be Ric Flair.

Kane Knight 01-15-2006 12:08 AM

They should have made it a Tables, Ladders, and Coats match, so he could whip out his jacket...Only to have it heel turn on him.

Fox 01-15-2006 01:43 AM

Ric Flair will die from a rough bump on Monday.

Bank on it.

Stickman 01-15-2006 01:49 AM

I think it will be shit. Other than chairshots Flair wont' take any bumps.

Kane Knight 01-15-2006 01:52 AM

Edge really needs to be carried to get a decent match out of him.

Flair MIGHT be able to carry him, but in a TLC match? I'm unsure.

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2006 01:54 AM

Yeah, I would have saved the match for later down the line. Edge vs. Flair would have been good enough. TLC seems to be leaps and bounds in the wrong direction.

I can actually see Ric Flair winning this thing. Flair comes out, demands the Intercontinental Championship be hooked up there as well, or have Edge state that TLC Matches are traditionally for two belts, and force Flair to put the IC Title on the line. I was expecting Vince McMahon to say that Flair interrupted the "Live Sex Celebration" on RAW, so Cena still gets his title shot, but now I can see McMahon putting a halt on the rematch. Cena runs out, F-Us Edge, Flair climbs and walks out Double-Champion for a night. He eventually forfeits the Intercontinental Championship, though. At the Royal Rumble, Triple H defeats Flair for the WWE Championship, and Cena wins the Rumble.

I hope they don't go this way, but I can see them doing it.

Favre4Ever 01-15-2006 02:19 AM

I would have much rather seen TLC done with Christian or Matt Hardy, even Shelton Benjamin.......i'm sure the match will be entertaining, but the state of Flairs body is going to hamper it a lot.

The One 01-15-2006 06:14 AM

Flair = God.

God > Edge.

Therefore...

Flair > Edge.

All I know is that for the first time in quite a long time, I want to watch RAW.

LivingDead 01-15-2006 06:49 AM

It's a really bad idea.
Fans know what a TLC match is, they know what to expect from a TLC match. This match won't meet their expectations.

Chavo Classic 01-15-2006 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Flair = God.

God > Edge.

Therefore...

Flair > Edge.

All I know is that for the first time in quite a long time, I want to watch RAW.

Yeh, but when you throw in the 'TLC' variable, I'm sure the outcome of those equations in terms of performance in that particular match will be different. Flair isn't cut out for these matches. These types of matches were designed for the spot-monkey, which Flair almost definately is not.

Either Flair and Edge will attempt to recreate a typical TLC match and put on a stinker as a result, or they'll recognise the problem and put on a normal match with a few low-risks spots here and there, with Edge mostly on the receiving end.

The One 01-15-2006 07:00 AM

TLC has historically lacked in terms of story-telling. Yes TLC matches are fun and exciting here and there, but why not take the greatest match story-teller in history (Flair) and pair him with a guy who can do the fun and exciting moves/falls fans are expecting to see (Edge).

One of the better Ladder Matches was Undertaker (not traditinally cut out for Ladder Match situation) vs. Hardy (see: Previous Comment About Edge). Why not let them try, we all know Flair can bump fairly well and might go through a table or a half way up the ladder bump-fall. Let Edge go the jumping off the ladder spears or whatever and call it a night. I say at the least reserve judgement until after Monday.

***Now taking bets the match won't even take place*** :shifty:

Chavo Classic 01-15-2006 07:04 AM

I don't think Flair's body can withstand the punishment typically given out in a TLC.

Although UT and Hardy was a very good match, with Hardy selling the entire time it wouldn't look good to put the new world champion in the same position. I'm sure Vince wouldn't want his new top guy to look weak... especially if he's going to retain any credibility and sustain a push until Wrestlemania.

Xero 01-15-2006 09:50 AM

I'm sorry, I just don't see this match being good. Flair may still be able to go, but this match requires at least one big bump from each of them, and I don't see what Flair could do besides a small Table spot. They may as well have just made it a ladder match, it wouldn't be as bad in my mind if it were.

Also, is this the first WWE singles TLC match?

Volare 01-15-2006 10:08 AM

meh...i smell bullshit in this match...they'll fuck it up somehow

LivingDead 01-15-2006 11:52 AM

Any one else notice how the TLC matches are getting worse and worse from 1 to 5?

Volare 01-15-2006 11:55 AM

well hell since it was STARTED by E&C (Christain is gone now) The Dudleyz(Gone to TNA) and the Hardy Boyz (Jeff in TNA) no wonder!! good observation (j/k)

94 SVT Cobra 01-15-2006 01:50 PM

OMFG YOU POSTED A SPOLIER WITHOUT PUTTING IT IN THE TITLE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW I WONT BE HALF AS SURPRISED WHEN IT HAPPENS ON MONDAY, YOU RUINED MY DESIRE TO EVER WATCH WRESTLING AGAIN AND SHOULD NEVER POST EHRE AGAIN.....nah im just playin but seriously, some pepole didnt know it was happening this monday.....just like some pepole didnt know cena wasnt the champ after NYR....(sarcasm)

Y3J 01-15-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94 SVT Cobra
OMFG YOU POSTED A SPOLIER WITHOUT PUTTING IT IN THE TITLE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW I WONT BE HALF AS SURPRISED WHEN IT HAPPENS ON MONDAY, YOU RUINED MY DESIRE TO EVER WATCH WRESTLING AGAIN AND SHOULD NEVER POST EHRE AGAIN.....nah im just playin but seriously, some pepole didnt know it was happening this monday.....just like some pepole didnt know cena wasnt the champ after NYR....(sarcasm)

Have they been in hibernation for the last few days? It's plastered all over wwe.com.

94 SVT Cobra 01-15-2006 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y3J
Have they been in hibernation for the last few days? It's plastered all over wwe.com.

When i posted cena was the champ seconds after he lost it, some pepole got mad at me for not puttin a spolier alert ins, hell a moderator even changed the name of the post to "I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT SPOLIERS IN TITLES HHJKFHDJKJS".....yet it was plastered all over wwe.com. i mean i dont care, were an internet based wrestling forum we know when cena shits for the most part, but irony is a funny thing. This board is chock full of it.

Afterlife 01-15-2006 02:12 PM

The big problem here is that Flair doesn't wrestle. I'm sure he used to. But not now. He chops, he begs for mercy, he pokes your eye, he misses the top rope clothesline, he chop blocks, and he uses the dreaded Figure Four. That's not wrestling. That's a bunch of boring spot crap and a submission hold. Nothing gets accomplished. And yes, I understand that TLC is more about hurting each other than straight wrestling, but you know what? If you can't wrestle in the first place, you don't belong in a match at all, let alone TLC.

Dorkchop 01-15-2006 02:16 PM

The match won't be any good. I think for a TLC match you need more than two people. Edge is always injured and isn't going to be the same in this match as he was in the ones with E and C. Flair's 79. It's just not going to be very good. I mean they'll take a lot of ladder shots, but probably will only have one high spot.

I'd much rather have Shelton, Helms, Venis, London, Super Crazy, Pyshosis, or hell Carlito in a ladder match. Venis vs Shelton would be a great ladder match.

Skippord 01-15-2006 02:18 PM

I'm fairly sure it will suck but maybe if Edge does every bump and then does a one man Conchairto or something and wins.I dunno

Y3J 01-15-2006 04:55 PM

I really can't see how this match is going to work

Xero 01-15-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y3J
I really can't see how this match is going to work

Yeah, well, I still can't see how Flair can still work at all.

Y3J 01-15-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Yeah, well, I still can't see how Flair can still work at all.

Very slowly

John la Rock 01-15-2006 05:02 PM

Angle vs HBK 4 > Edge vs Flair TLC

Y3J 01-15-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John la Rock
Angle vs HBK 4 > Edge vs Flair TLC

You must've thought long and hard about that one :nono:

Xero 01-15-2006 05:10 PM

Angle vs. HBK > Flair vs. Anyone at this point in time

Y3J 01-15-2006 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Angle vs. HBK > Flair vs. Anyone at this point in time

Flair vs The guy he beat up on the street > Angle vs HBK :lol:

LivingDead 01-15-2006 05:15 PM

They really shouldn't do this. TLC is a tag team match. A tag team match with at least 3 teams.
A single TLC match just won't work. TLC matches are about non-stop action, high spots and excitement. This will be so slow-paced and have one or no spots. The crowd are just going to shit all over it.

Xero 01-15-2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LivingDead
They really shouldn't do this. TLC is a tag team match. A tag team match with at least 3 teams.
A single TLC match just won't work. TLC matches are about non-stop action, high spots and excitement. This will be so slow-paced and have one or no spots. The crowd are just going to shit all over it.

The TLC match was originally created because each of the three teams used the specific weapons. Tables for the Dudleys, Ladders for the Hardys and Chairs for Edge and Christian. They should have just ended it when they got rid of them all.

Also, why should they use the ladder in this match? Edge used a chair last week, make it a chair on a pole match. Or have Flair use a table this week and Edge use a ladder the next. At least then it would make sense storyline-wise.

Then again, the WWE is known for throwing gimmick matches into feuds for no reason whatsoever.

UmbrellaCorporation 01-15-2006 05:19 PM

This might be interesting, but I have my doubts. I don't think that Flair can pull this match off.

Russenmafia 01-15-2006 05:46 PM

can see this match bombing big time. TLC matches are fast paced spot fests, this one is going to be too slow and not as good.

Kane Knight 01-15-2006 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94 SVT Cobra
When i posted cena was the champ seconds after he lost it, some pepole got mad at me for not puttin a spolier alert ins, hell a moderator even changed the name of the post to "I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT SPOLIERS IN TITLES HHJKFHDJKJS".....yet it was plastered all over wwe.com. i mean i dont care, were an internet based wrestling forum we know when cena shits for the most part, but irony is a funny thing. This board is chock full of it.

WAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Seriously, don't be such a crybaby. This gives away no results. Yours did. Boohoohoo, the mods are picking on me!

The Naitch 01-15-2006 09:06 PM

ALienoid's idea would be sweet. Actual;ly, it wouldnt be sweet, but it would be 2 Sweet

Stickman 01-16-2006 05:41 PM

I don't know why Flair isn't feuding with somebody over the IC belt.

Kane Knight 01-16-2006 06:03 PM

I don't get why Flair is still on TV.

Destor 01-16-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94 SVT Cobra
OMFG YOU POSTED A SPOLIER WITHOUT PUTTING IT IN THE TITLE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW I WONT BE HALF AS SURPRISED WHEN IT HAPPENS ON MONDAY, YOU RUINED MY DESIRE TO EVER WATCH WRESTLING AGAIN AND SHOULD NEVER POST EHRE AGAIN.....nah im just playin but seriously, some pepole didnt know it was happening this monday.....just like some pepole didnt know cena wasnt the champ after NYR....(sarcasm)

He didn't spoil anything genius. This is a preview of a match to come, not an outcome.

Kane Knight 01-16-2006 06:23 PM

SVT won't understand the difference. Far as he's concerned, TPWW is out to get him. OMFGKKKonspiracy


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