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Stickman 01-18-2006 01:34 PM

We all love Kurt Angle but...
 
I think it's time he gets new entrance music and maybe quit talking about the fucking Olympics. This gimmack has been going on since he debuted. I find it boring. Don't get me wrong, I don't find Kurt boring, but his gimmick of an Olympic Hero is just blah now.

Xero 01-18-2006 01:39 PM

I think he has evolved his character quite well over the years. When he first debuted he was more of a legit athlete. Now he's a legit athletic bad ass.

I couldn't really see Angle in any other base gimmick than the Olympic hero. He does change once in a while, but he always has that base of the legit athlete.

The Mackem 01-18-2006 01:39 PM

You're jealous, aren't you?

HaTeR 01-18-2006 01:50 PM

Kurt has grown into the character, it fits him good now, as long as he's not throwing it around.

TerranRich 01-18-2006 01:57 PM

I say he uses his remixed version of "Medal", called "I Don't Suck" (NOT the Originals song, but the rock version of "Medal"). It fits him better I think.

Xero 01-18-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich
I say he uses his remixed version of "Medal", called "I Don't Suck" (NOT the Originals song, but the rock version of "Medal"). It fits him better I think.

Yeah, I love that version. He used it once and never used it again. It's on Anthology.

dablackguy 01-18-2006 02:03 PM

Yeah, I remember when Kurt first came in, he was a legit athelete that was all wholesome and shit (The 3 I's haha), now he's more of a badass type, which given his look (size, body type, being bald) fits him I'd say

Hired Hitman 01-18-2006 02:10 PM

Ahhh, the Originals song...

"I don't.... SUCK! I don't... SUCK!"

shame, Kurt, Shame :$

BigChris 01-18-2006 02:16 PM

I for one hope they don't change his gimich, because it would make no sense. That sounds more like something the WCW would do, like Cowboy Kurt Angle that hates rap music, wait, I forgot, they did that with Curt Henning.

Destor 01-18-2006 02:21 PM

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Innovator 01-18-2006 02:32 PM

Seether wrote that song "Out of My Way" for Kurt, but the E didn't want to use it for him in the end.

Xero 01-18-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.lyrics007.com/Seether%20Lyrics/Out%20Of%20My%20Way%20Lyrics.html

Out of my way
Out of my, way

[Pre-Chorus]
I can’t pass up this opportunity to make myself absurd,
I can’t pass up this opportunity to let myself be heard.
Would you, like to, be the one who sees me lose this all,
Would you, like to, be the one who sees me fall.

[Chorus]
Nobody’s gonna stand in my way
Give it up son, I’m doin’ this my way
Nobody’s gonna stand in my way
Give it up son, I’m doin’ this my way

You like to think the worst is over now, but you cant breathe at all
You like to think you’re owed a favor now, man you’ve seen it all

Did you, want to, be the one who pushed me off the wall,
Did you, want to, be the one who let me fall.

[Chorus]

You can’t hold me down..
You can’t hold me down..
You can’t hold me down..
You can’t hold me down..


[Pre-Chorus]

[Chorus]

Nobody’s gonna stand in my way
Give it up, I’m doin’ this my way
Nobody’s gonna stand in my way
Give it up, I’m doin’ this my way
Out of my way

I wonder why.

RGWhat316 01-18-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
Seether wrote that song "Out of My Way" for Kurt, but the E didn't want to use it for him in the end.

I know that Zach Gowen used it for the short time he was in WWE. But I think they should go back to the rock version thats on Anthology, that theme is better.

Dorkchop 01-18-2006 03:06 PM

YES! KURT ANGEL'S ROCK THEME. IT'S SOOOOO GREAT.

The only thing I would like to change about Kurt, is go back to his goofyness. He was really fucking funny.

Y3J 01-18-2006 03:35 PM

I love Angle's gimmick. He only uses the "I'm an Olympic Hero" and "broken freakin neck" when he has to put the other guy down and to make him look badder.

His entrance is fine, it's got that "i'm a clean-cut, American hero" type if vibe to it, which makes us love him even more.

MVP 01-18-2006 03:51 PM

There is nothing wrong with his current theme. He should never change it.

VonErich Lives 01-18-2006 04:04 PM

Keep in mind, it's really not a Gimmick, this isn't Ken Patera who won medals in the Pan Am Games and competed in the olympics not winning medals.

Kurt won the gold in the olympics.

The Power 01-18-2006 04:16 PM

The Power feels that Kurt Angle is a superior athlete *flails arms*

Kane Knight 01-18-2006 04:41 PM

Kurt's music is synonymous with him, such that it is like Hogan's or Michaels' music. You don't mess with success. It's perfect for the man, and probably always will be.

Savio 01-18-2006 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich
I say he uses his remixed version of "Medal", called "I Don't Suck" (NOT the Originals song, but the rock version of "Medal"). It fits him better I think.

someone up this

TerranRich 01-18-2006 05:57 PM

themes.xylot.com

Mr. Nerfect 01-18-2006 07:29 PM

I was going to come in with the "don't change it mentality", but I think using "I Don't Suck" would really work with his new badass character. Have him use his "Medal" theme on PPV only or something (or vice versa).

Plus, it would catch people off guard, which would reduce the "You Suck" chants, which will focus people solely on cheering Angle 100%. I really think it would help get him over as a stronger babyface.

Funky Fly 01-18-2006 08:55 PM

They should fix it up some more before using that other theme. Jim Johnston has some wacky drumming in that rock version of Angle's theme.

The CyNick 01-18-2006 09:12 PM

I would be very sad if Anlge changed his music.

It would be hard for him to not mention the Olympics, I mean thats asuch a huge part of his gimmick.

Xero 01-18-2006 09:17 PM

Unless they just throw the mask on him and call him "The Patriot".

Oh, what a coincidence, he can still use the same music. :shifty:

My Final Heaven 01-18-2006 10:08 PM

I love Angle, I love his entrance & wouldn't change it, but there is one thing that kinda bugs me about him. I would stop relying on the Ankle Lock so much. He could come up with a new manuever/submission, or start using the Angle Slam more. It just seems to me that the ANKLE LOCK!!!111!!! as a one-shot finisher's become kinda stale. It's like, a lot of his matches have become a waiting game of "Oh boy, when's he gonna grab that ankle & end this :-\ ."

Kane Knight 01-18-2006 10:20 PM

Unlike other wrestlers...

Xero 01-18-2006 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Final Heaven
I love Angle, I love his entrance & wouldn't change it, but there is one thing that kinda bugs me about him. I would stop relying on the Ankle Lock so much. He could come up with a new manuever/submission, or start using the Angle Slam more. It just seems to me that the ANKLE LOCK!!!111!!! as a one-shot finisher's become kinda stale. It's like, a lot of his matches have become a waiting game of "Oh boy, when's he gonna grab that ankle & end this :-\ ."

Writer #1: Okay, we need to give Kurt a new submission finisher.

The entire room except one: Sharpshooter.

Heyman: Katahajime.

Everyone: SHUT UP PAUL!

John la Rock 01-18-2006 11:25 PM

HELLL NO!!!!!

Kurt Angle's music is SOOOO perfect for him even if the crowd says "You Suck" everytime it's played

Kane Knight 01-18-2006 11:51 PM

Yeah, but they were so blatantlychanting it at Edge. ;)

owenbrown 01-18-2006 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich
I say he uses his remixed version of "Medal", called "I Don't Suck" (NOT the Originals song, but the rock version of "Medal"). It fits him better I think.

:y:

John la Rock 01-19-2006 12:47 AM

dude that verison sucked

Corkscrewed 01-19-2006 02:21 AM

Angle is fine. I don't really see why he needs to change the whole Olympics basis. You wouldn't say Hulk Hogan needs to change his "Real American" type character, nor would you say Flair shouldn't be the Nature Boy anymore. You wouldn't associate Bret Hart with anything other than "The Hitman."

Like most people have said, this image has become a part of Angle's identity. You change that and things tend to fall apart, similar to how many fans didn't react well to Undertaker as a biker badass. Sure, that gimmick wasn't overly terrible, but it just wasn't the same.

Favre4Ever 01-19-2006 04:17 AM

Kurt Angle is one of the guys who keeps wrestling exciting. Your watching RAW, having to sit through a shitty match with Rob Conway, and then BAM! Kurt Angle gets on the screen, and you just know your about to see a good match. I hope Kurt continues to stick with his Olympian gimmick, because it adds a lot of legitimacy to his character. Even the people who don't watch wrestling can tell what an amazing perfermor he is.

I just feel bad that he finally caught a break by getting on the main show, carried John Cena for three months(in fact, so well that people started cheering him on despite being a heel), and now he's back on Smackdown.

The One 01-19-2006 04:22 AM

Don't change a thing about Angle... Me :love: Angle.

Destor 01-19-2006 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulkamania320
I just feel bad that he finally caught a break by getting on the main show, carried John Cena for three months(in fact, so well that people started cheering him on despite being a heel), and now he's back on Smackdown.

If a heel causes a face to get heat he isn't doing his job right just so you know. A heel should cause the face to get louder pops.

Kane Knight 01-19-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
If a heel causes a face to get heat he isn't doing his job right just so you know. A heel should cause the face to get louder pops.

To be fair, it was management's fault.

Kurt's such an over wrestler that he could sing the Iraqi national anthem while sawing the head off that Christian Science monitor chick, burning a cross, eating a baby, and shitting on the American flag and still get popped. Angle's done more to get over as a heel than most people ever would, and it doesn't work. Yet they insisted on keeping him heel?

owenbrown 01-19-2006 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
To be fair, it was management's fault.

Kurt's such an over wrestler that he could sing the Iraqi national anthem while sawing the head off that Christian Science monitor chick, burning a cross, eating a baby, and shitting on the American flag and still get popped. Angle's done more to get over as a heel than most people ever would, and it doesn't work. Yet they insisted on keeping him heel?

Management... like many workplaces.... have their collective heads too far up their asses while stuck in their offices all day to realize what is truly going on with the workers.... they are too busy thinking about themselves..... too many Chiefs, not enough Indians. :shifty: :nono:

Stickman 01-19-2006 01:34 PM

I think the problem with the theme I have is that the "You Suck" chants will NEVER end, and that feels as old as "puppies!!!" I also dislike his ring attire but now I'm just nit picking.

McLegend 01-19-2006 01:36 PM

You Suck chants are still as great as ever.


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