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What Would Kevin Do? 02-21-2006 01:35 AM

Ashley injured on Raw... Spoilers I suppose?
 
NoDQ.com > WWE > Ashley Suffers Injury At RAW
Posted by Steve Carrier on 02/21/2006 at 12:20 AM

The following is from WWE.com:

Ashley suffered a spiral fracture of the left fibula, a non weight-bearing bone, Monday night while competing in the Diva Battle Royal to crown a No. 1 Contender for the Women's Championship. Surgery will not be required, however, Ashley will be in a cast for four weeks.

RGWhat316 02-21-2006 02:10 AM

I actually taped it, and looked back on it. Ashley did take a pretty good fall after being thrown out. She landed hard on her left side.

Skippord 02-21-2006 02:43 AM

Ouchies

Corkscrewed 02-21-2006 04:52 AM

Ouch. That'll be sore for a while, but I'm glad it's nothing major. Never want to hear about freak injuries like that, so it's a good thing this wasn't worse.

PorkSoda 02-21-2006 08:09 AM

Who cares?

JH 02-21-2006 08:41 AM

i could nurse her back to health if she wants me to lol

Vastardikai 02-21-2006 08:58 AM

And to think, this could ALL have been prevented if they had, instead of rushed her out to the ring while she was still training, let her develop her in-ring ability AWAY from cameras...

Disturbed316 02-21-2006 09:40 AM

I thought it said a spinal fracture at first, which lead me to think OH MY FUCKING GOD!

At least she will still be able to do skits and stuff if needed.

Shadow 02-22-2006 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
And to think, this could ALL have been prevented if they had, instead of rushed her out to the ring while she was still training, let her develop her in-ring ability AWAY from cameras...

Not really. Even guys with years of experience can fall badly. It happens. Glad it's minor though.

Vastardikai 02-22-2006 08:53 AM

^ True, but she has taken other really sloppy bumps though (A slingshot attempt during the LAST Diva Battle Royal comes to mind, IIRC, the one during Eddie's death)

Savio 02-22-2006 11:37 AM

yeah they should have her or maria in the ring.

Schoenauer 02-22-2006 11:54 AM

I'm glad it's minor as well... but this may mean saying goodbye to Diva Battle Royales because somebody got hurt in the process.

loopydate 02-22-2006 01:51 PM

I certainly hope that's the case.

Focus the division on the women who can actually wrestle.

Fryza 02-22-2006 03:15 PM

We were wondering what happened on RAW the other night. Damn, Ashley is somewhat entertaining... More so than Candice or Torrie... Or Lita...

Pepsi Man 02-24-2006 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
And to think, this could ALL have been prevented if they had, instead of rushed her out to the ring while she was still training, let her develop her in-ring ability AWAY from cameras...

Ah, so if she took the exact same fall in Deep South Wrestling, it would've been okay?

Skippord 02-24-2006 01:07 AM

I would like to touch her breasts

Vastardikai 02-24-2006 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Ah, so if she took the exact same fall in Deep South Wrestling, it would've been okay?

Probably not, but I doubt she would be put in such situation in DSW. I know not much about DSW or OVW, but I doubt they throw their greenhorn divas in a match where they have to throw each other out of the ring. That is dangerous even for professionals (See: Cena, John and Michinoku, Taka), but for someone who barely knows how to string a couple of moves together (that horribly botched sunset flip is screaming in my head STILL, as is the botched Slingshot elimination from the Eddie Tribute show), it was only a matter of time. The fact is, we're lucky it didn't happen SOONER. What if she accidentally injured Mickey James, or Trish Stratus? Then where would the 'E be?

If they are gonna be in the ring, we should at least expect that they know how to protect themselves and their opponents. This was the central point of that remark. Will it have prevented all injuries? No. Will it prevent some? Definitely. Will it make for a better product in the long run? BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.

The Naitch 02-24-2006 07:05 PM

as long as she's still able to deep throat, all is good

Pepsi Man 02-25-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
Probably not, but I doubt she would be put in such situation in DSW. I know not much about DSW or OVW, but I doubt they throw their greenhorn divas in a match where they have to throw each other out of the ring. That is dangerous even for professionals (See: Cena, John and Michinoku, Taka), but for someone who barely knows how to string a couple of moves together (that horribly botched sunset flip is screaming in my head STILL, as is the botched Slingshot elimination from the Eddie Tribute show), it was only a matter of time. The fact is, we're lucky it didn't happen SOONER. What if she accidentally injured Mickey James, or Trish Stratus? Then where would the 'E be?

If they are gonna be in the ring, we should at least expect that they know how to protect themselves and their opponents. This was the central point of that remark. Will it have prevented all injuries? No. Will it prevent some? Definitely. Will it make for a better product in the long run? BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.

Erm. Mick Foley's third pro match was a battle royal. It fucking happens. Whether a camera is rolling or not, the risks these athletes take are real.

loopydate 02-25-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Erm. Mick Foley's third pro match was a battle royal. It fucking happens. Whether a camera is rolling or not, the risks these athletes take are real.

But Mick was also taking classes in how to wrestle between his bookings. Ashley never had time to properly train, because she got thrown right onto the active roster. If she was in DSW, yeah she might do a battle royal, but they'd teach her how to fall first.

DaveWadding 02-25-2006 03:47 PM

LOL she botched falling. Just like her idol.

Corkscrewed 02-25-2006 04:00 PM

:lol:

Pepsi Man 02-26-2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by loopydate
But Mick was also taking classes in how to wrestle between his bookings. Ashley never had time to properly train, because she got thrown right onto the active roster. If she was in DSW, yeah she might do a battle royal, but they'd teach her how to fall first.

I'm sure she was taught how to fall first. If she would've had more PRACTICE at some of the essentials, maybe that wouldn't have happened, and even that's a maybe, but people get injured just as often and easily at indy shows as they do on WWE TV.

Vastardikai 02-26-2006 06:39 PM

^

I think my point on the issue (at least the one I was trying to make to begin with that got misunderstood, as I was being a bit facetous) is that she needs to be working on her skills more or less non-stop. She needs more Practice in bumping. The other issue to keep in mind was that, Mick was also bumping for six to seven months before his first match, IIRC. He has also had several injuries.

In essense what I am trying to say, and what I doubt ANYONE would argue with, is that she is too green to be wrestling on television. Could she be injured at DSW or at OVW? Definitely. But she would also be a better worker in the long run for her time off.

Pepsi Man 02-26-2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
^

I think my point on the issue (at least the one I was trying to make to begin with that got misunderstood, as I was being a bit facetous) is that she needs to be working on her skills more or less non-stop. She needs more Practice in bumping. The other issue to keep in mind was that, Mick was also bumping for six to seven months before his first match, IIRC. He has also had several injuries.

In essense what I am trying to say, and what I doubt ANYONE would argue with, is that she is too green to be wrestling on television. Could she be injured at DSW or at OVW? Definitely. But she would also be a better worker in the long run for her time off.

COULD, not would. I'm all for people having to work their way up in wrestling and start out on the small scale, BUT that's not going to prevent injuries or even put a dent in the amount of them that occur. Everyone's favorite move-botcher Lita spent plenty of time in the minor leagues before being featured on WWF television, and as best as I can tell, she still sucks.

McLegend 02-27-2006 12:05 AM

Another thing is WWE isn't going to send $250,000 to the minor leagues

What Would Kevin Do? 02-27-2006 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by legend
Another thing is WWE isn't going to send $250,000 to the minor leagues

Puder?

McLegend 02-27-2006 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
Puder?

did he get that much? I didn't think they got $250,000. Also I completly forget about him.

Destor 02-27-2006 01:10 AM

He won the million dollar Tough Enough. I doubt he got that much.

Vastardikai 02-27-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
COULD, not would. I'm all for people having to work their way up in wrestling and start out on the small scale, BUT that's not going to prevent injuries or even put a dent in the amount of them that occur. Everyone's favorite move-botcher Lita spent plenty of time in the minor leagues before being featured on WWF television, and as best as I can tell, she still sucks.

eh. My friend that I discussed this with had a better counter-example: Torrie Wilson.

There are too many variables, in reality. I'll be the first to admit that training has little to do with how stiff someone works, the type of ring used, freak things like illness and just happening to land on your head, etc. I am suggesting to alter merely one of them.

I think we are lucky it was Ashley and not Maria.


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