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Stickman 04-26-2006 11:06 AM

Who hasn't been stolen from?
 
So I was thinking, what wrestlers haven't had somebody else use their finishing move? I can only think of Mic Foley and the mandible claw. Unless he stole that from somebody I think he's the only one to have his own move.

Disturbed316 04-26-2006 11:09 AM

Nah, someone else used the mandible claw back in the 70's (I think).

Xero 04-26-2006 11:09 AM

The Mandible Claw is done in Japan I believe. I believe it's called the Iron Claw, could be wrong.

If you mean "borrowed"/"Non-innovative" moves, Rey's the only one who does the 619 as far as I know.

He's not the first to do the fake dive, but the first to use it in the way he does.

Disturbed316 04-26-2006 11:11 AM

Yeah, the 619 move is usually done as a fake out to diving outside the ring, not as an offensive move.

Xero 04-26-2006 11:17 AM

Also, The Undertaker's the only one to use The Last Ride (not a normal Powerbomb) I think.

ClockShot 04-26-2006 11:22 AM

Well, the most obvious to me is the Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock. Now everybody from Austin (I believe he used it once or twice in his career. Correct me.) to Beniot uses it as a backup or if they are thrown into a submission only match.

Linkbowler 04-26-2006 11:59 AM

According to Wikipedia, the Haas brothers are the only ones to use the Haas of Pain.

The Show Off 04-26-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Disturbed316
Yeah, the 619 move is usually done as a fake out to diving outside the ring, not as an offensive move.

Didn't Red steal the 619 and named it after the area code in Brooklyn?

Vastardikai 04-26-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Disturbed316
Nah, someone else used the mandible claw back in the 70's (I think).

According to "Have a Nice Day," Mick was introduced to the Concept of the Mandible Claw by Cornette. It was done by Dr. Sam Shepherd of "The Fugitive" fame.

Nark Order 04-26-2006 02:04 PM

Did Umaga steal the 'taped railroad spike thumb of doom' from anybody?

Corkscrewed 04-26-2006 02:14 PM

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Didn't Red steal the 619 and named it after the area code in Brooklyn?
That's what I thought. I'm pretty sure he did.

Vastardikai 04-26-2006 02:17 PM

yeah, because Rey stole one of his moves. Which one I dunno.

Nervous Ferret 04-26-2006 02:28 PM

619 is in Cali I thought

domononizuka 04-26-2006 03:51 PM

Low Ki has used the 619 a few times.Probably a bit before rey was using it.

CYCLOPTERSAURUS 04-26-2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
yeah, because Rey stole one of his moves. Which one I dunno.

That sunset flip bomb thing I think.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-26-2006 07:21 PM

Yeah, the 619 has been used.

So has the last ride (Big Boss MAGMA or whatever he's called now does it in Dragongate.)

The iron claw is not the mandible claw.

RP 04-26-2006 07:54 PM

haas brother

HeartBreakMan2k 04-26-2006 10:49 PM

The sunset flip bomb and 619 have both been done by Amazing Red, Low Ki and a ton of other indy and jap guys have used the moves also.

Mister Sinister 04-26-2006 11:07 PM

I've don't think I've seen anyone other then Low Ki, use the Ki Krusher 99.

And CM Punk is the only one I know of that uses the Pespi Plunge...I know Chyna did it once to Jericho but that really doesn't count does it?

NeanderCarl 04-26-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
Did Umaga steal the 'taped railroad spike thumb of doom' from anybody?

Think Uliuli Fifita aka Meng/Haku used to use that one. I think.

Skippord 04-26-2006 11:14 PM

Haku/Meng used two fingers to the bottom of the jaw called the Toungan Death Grip

NeanderCarl 04-26-2006 11:27 PM

Oh right. I've definitely seen that thumb shit somewhere before.

With the tape too I think.

But I can't think right now. Kurrgan maybe?

Mister Sinister 04-26-2006 11:30 PM

I've seen someone use it as a Submission Move

I beleive it was Glaciar, which he did it after his superkick, for a breif time in (October/November 1998 WCW)

redoneja 04-27-2006 12:09 AM

Yea Glacier did use the Asiatic Spike. He called it the Ice Pick

Goulet 04-27-2006 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by redoneja
Yea Glacier did use the Asiatic Spike. He called it the Ice Pick

It was also used by the executioner

Lock Jaw 04-27-2006 02:11 AM

No one has ever stole the pump-handle slam! :shifty:

Dorkchop 04-27-2006 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redoneja
Yea Glacier did use the Asiatic Spike. He called it the Ice Pick

That move really sucked.

OH MY GOD! HE'S SQUEEZING HIS TRAP!

Corkscrewed 04-27-2006 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Helmsphere
I've don't think I've seen anyone other then Low Ki, use the Ki Krusher 99.

And CM Punk is the only one I know of that uses the Pespi Plunge...I know Chyna did it once to Jericho but that really doesn't count does it?

I've seen it done in a couple of Japanese matches. Would that count though? And by "done" I mean they basically did a Fisherman's Death Valley Driver (which is basically what it is). So yeah. :)

Corkscrewed 04-27-2006 06:15 AM

Just realized I said basically twice.





Basically.

Harry Peters 04-27-2006 07:09 AM

What about the RKO?

What Would Kevin Do? 04-27-2006 09:08 AM

What about the 630 done by Jack Evans?

Now I am pretty sure that Milano AT is the only person to do the Milano Shoe Exchange ( Imagine a lionsault, where he twists at the last second turning it into a senton, it looks nice.)

The Danshoku Driver (Head in the tights piledriver) I'm sure hasn't been stolen, nor has POISON Julie's little trance move. I don't think Kenta Kobashi's Diamond Head has been ripped off, but that is an assumed botch at this point.

I don't think anyone has used KENTA's Go 2 Sleep, but I wouldn't be surprised if an indy guy ripped it off.

Has anyone outside of Low-Ki done the Tidal Crush? Or Black Magic? (I think that's what he calls his shining wizard feint, backwards axe kick move.)

Xero 04-27-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Peters
What about the RKO?

LOL, Lord...

Stickman 04-27-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Peters
What about the RKO?

Um... I take it you're new to wrestling.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-27-2006 11:41 AM

Does anyone know if anyone besides Milano Collection AT has done the Paradise Lock (and the paradise lock in the ropes?)

redoneja 04-27-2006 11:41 AM

WWKD, I'm pretty sure I've seen someone do the Milano Shoe Exchange besides AT, but I can't remember who. I know Carlito did a version of it on an episode of Raw a while back.

redoneja 04-27-2006 11:47 AM

Can't think of anyone that has used the Paradise Lock either. Also I just watched a clip of Kobashi doing the Diamond Head, and it definitely looks like a botch.

domononizuka 04-27-2006 11:54 AM

Jerrle Clark and Jack Evans both use the 630.I cant really think of anyone that used the razors edge besides Hall.

thecc 04-27-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
What about the 630 done by Jack Evans?

Jerelle Clark also uses it but im not sure who pulled it off first.

redoneja 04-27-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by domononizuka
Jerrle Clark and Jack Evans both use the 630.I cant really think of anyone that used the razors edge besides Hall.

Mordecai used the Razor's Edge.

EDIT: And Jinsei "Hakushi" Shinzeki also uses it as a finisher.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-27-2006 12:11 PM

As far as the Razor's Edge, I'm pretty sure The Great Sasuke was doing it before Hall even.

There's another move I saw that I don't know if anyone else does, but I don't even know the guy who did it. He had a guy laying on the mat, across the corner (think split legged moonsault posistion.) and he ran to the ropes, grabbed the top, jumped up to and off the second rope, and sort of tucked his head, rolled forward, and hit a senton. It looked pretty slick. Anyone know who that was?


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