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The One 05-01-2006 04:16 PM

Why did they never make it big?
 
This is for all the people who you thought were going to be huge, but somehow wern't. I always thought D'Lo Brown had a certain look, and ring style that was fun to watch. I am seriously shocked he never became more then he did. Name some other guys who you think could have been bigger.

dablackguy 05-01-2006 04:18 PM

Ironically I was thinking about D'lo in that light. Whatever happened to him?

The One 05-01-2006 04:19 PM

He wrestles in Japan now...

The One 05-01-2006 04:20 PM

And even there...he doesn't get the respect he deserves.

LK 05-01-2006 04:26 PM

One word as to why D'Lo Brown didn't make it as big as he should of: Droz.

The One 05-01-2006 04:40 PM

That wasn't D'Lo fault.

LoDownM 05-01-2006 04:41 PM

I miss D'Lo :(

Juan 05-01-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM
I miss D'Lo :(


LK 05-01-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
That wasn't D'Lo fault.

I know that's the case, but I have no doubt that the WWE always had that in their mind when it came to using him.

The One 05-01-2006 04:52 PM

But also, why did he not get over with the crowd in a bigger way? He never got real big pops or anything...what was it about him that people didn't get behind I wonder...

Londoner 05-01-2006 05:03 PM

I also liked D'Lo and was going to pick him but now i'll say Christian.Why the fuck did WWE just ignore the potential this guy has?He could do everything that was needed to be a main eventer and he's now proving that in TNA.

(damn this stupid site for not letting me post this 5 mins ago)

Innovator 05-01-2006 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
But also, why did he not get over with the crowd in a bigger way? He never got real big pops or anything...what was it about him that people didn't get behind I wonder...

In the summer of 99 I thought the crowd was behind him, when he was the Eurocontinental champ

Mister Sinister 05-01-2006 05:21 PM

Yeah, I have to agree with you One, after Triple H was finally getting ready to win his first title, I thorught for sure that either him or Ken Shamrock would of been World Champion, but never happened

The One 05-01-2006 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
I also liked D'Lo and was going to pick him but now i'll say Christian.Why the fuck did WWE just ignore the potential this guy has?He could do everything that was needed to be a main eventer and he's now proving that in TNA.

(damn this stupid site for not letting me post this 5 mins ago)

Christian is totally big. He may not have won, but the crowd ate him up, this isn't a why didn't they win the World Title, this is a way arn't they a bigger name star...titles don't makr stars, fans do.

Anybody Thrilla 05-01-2006 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LK
I know that's the case, but I have no doubt that the WWE always had that in their mind when it came to using him.

I think you're wrong. I think the problem was that HE had it on his mind, and it probably affected his performance a bit.

Mr. JL 05-01-2006 06:02 PM

Kanyon back in 2003. He was some of the best matches of his career... on WWE VELOCITY. He just returned from almost dying, got back in shape and came back better than ever. He was having good matches with local indy guys, fantastic matches with the likes of Rey Mysterio, Sean O'Haire, Paul London, Matt Hardy, insert other Velocity guys here.

WWE's creative department never had any ideas for him and he never left Velocity until he was released.

The One 05-01-2006 06:04 PM

WHO GAYER THEN KANYON?!

You're right though, it's a damn shame he went from Mr. MVP to Mr. Homo.

Londoner 05-01-2006 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Christian is totally big. He may not have won, but the crowd ate him up, this isn't a why didn't they win the World Title, this is a way arn't they a bigger name star...titles don't makr stars, fans do.

Ah right yeah just read your post again, sorry about that, but you get what im saying though.

Rammsteinmad 05-01-2006 06:09 PM

Test.

Schoenauer 05-01-2006 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
I also liked D'Lo and was going to pick him but now i'll say Christian.Why the fuck did WWE just ignore the potential this guy has?He could do everything that was needed to be a main eventer and he's now proving that in TNA.


The One 05-01-2006 06:14 PM

EDIT: I am a retard...thanks for your time.

happylad 05-01-2006 06:25 PM

I wish the WWE had used DDP well before he became crippled i thought he was hilarious on the Mic and was hardly poor in-ring either
*waits to be slaughtered for this view*
Also did DDP ever recover fully from his injury and if so has he retired?

St. Jimmy 05-01-2006 06:30 PM

Raven was so underused in WWE it was completely pathetic.
There was no legit reason not to take him and work him into a main even scene.

The One 05-01-2006 06:32 PM

Raven and DDP were both huge stars. This isn't why didn't the company use them better, this is why did they never make it big? Why didn't the fans get behind them...

Team Sheep 05-01-2006 06:35 PM

Hassan :( But of course, wasn't his fault.

William Regal. He was on top of the world in 2001, was the comissioner, and afterward he was having a great angle going with Austin. I seriously thought he would win the Championship back then.

The One 05-01-2006 06:43 PM

How did I not think of Regal before now...you are 100% correct! I thought Regal could go down as one of the all time best heels, but then he just kinda stuck around upper-midcard, then when down to lower-midcard, losing fans and anti-fans all the while...then all but disappeared. :(

Team Sheep 05-01-2006 06:51 PM

The shame about it is that I'm not really sure if Regal would be accepted as a champion in this day of wrestling. It would have been ideal for him back then, but after lousing around Heat and Velocity for years, they'd have to work a miracle to get him over. Can't really see him topping his amazing story with a title win to be honest. :(

KingofOldSchool 05-01-2006 07:50 PM

The Mulkeys.

Mulk-A-Mania :(

Mr. JL 05-01-2006 09:12 PM

Yeah, William Regal definitely deserves to be mentioned.

mrslackalack 05-01-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. JL
Yeah, William Regal definitely deserves to be mentioned.

:y:

Pinnacle Charisma 05-01-2006 11:03 PM

Yeah Regal could have been anything.



Steven Richards is another one. Maybe he could never have been a maineventer but he could have been a soild upper midcarder. He has way more talent than to be just a jobber on heat.

Rob Conway I thought was a great talent but the crowd never got behind him. He was great in the ring, good on the mic and he looked the part but he just never connected with the crowd during his push mid last year.

Maven is another who had enough charisma to make something of himself.

Jaton 05-01-2006 11:23 PM

I disagree. While I never saw anything wrong with Maven's abilities or even his mic skills, he just didn't seem to have that "it" factor that seems to be the barrier between mid-card and upper mid.

jindrak 05-01-2006 11:59 PM

Owen Hart.

Johnny Vegas 05-02-2006 12:24 AM

Yea, Regal and D'Lo are very good contenders. D'Lo, from what i remember, was actually getting good size pops when eurocontinental champion. But like someone mentioned, i think the Droz thing pretty much got him psychologically.

People got into Owen Hart when he was a face before the Bret feud and when he fueded with Triple H. But other than those two, i can't really think of others.

jindrak 05-02-2006 01:42 AM

Owen was a brilliantly charismatic heel. Even though injuries grounded his aerial moveset (remember, he was among the greatest high-flyers at one time), his mat skills made up for it.

Owen should've been world champ. Its a shame he was never given a run, especially when a strong case could've been made between 93'-96'.

Mister Sinister 05-02-2006 01:43 AM

Matt Hardy, He has had so many things going for him but never made it, half of it is his blame for lack of mic skills atleast outside of being a heel, and the other being vince for fucking up the Edge/Hardy/Lita deal.

I beleive the WWE wanted his brother to be a big star, but Jeff of course, couldn't handle it

jindrak 05-02-2006 01:51 AM

Jeff Jarrett- Had SCSA not refused to put him over, Jarrett would've been a maineventer in the WWE. Yes, I'm serious.

Matt Hardy- v1.0 was super over with the fans. Its a shame Matt is continually buried, especially since he has so much potential.

Mister Sinister 05-02-2006 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jindrak
Jeff Jarrett- Had SCSA not refused to put him over, Jarrett would've been a maineventer in the WWE. Yes, I'm serious.

Matt Hardy- v1.0 was super over with the fans. Its a shame Matt is continually buried, especially since he has so much potential.

Sadly, the same thing could of been said with Billy Gunn, Not that one wouldn't like that.

Shadow 05-02-2006 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmsphere
Matt Hardy, He has had so many things going for him but never made it, half of it is his blame for lack of mic skills atleast outside of being a heel, and the other being vince for fucking up the Edge/Hardy/Lita deal.

I beleive the WWE wanted his brother to be a big star, but Jeff of course, couldn't handle it

Actually gonna have to agree with you on that.

Oh stop looking at me like that.

If Jeff was given the time off that he requested immediatlly following the Undertaker fued and allowed to rest and give his body a break, he could've been huge. Unfortunetly...well, we saw what happened. Poor Jeff.

And Matt...hoooooo boy. Don't get me started on Matt.

Arnold HamNegger 05-02-2006 03:50 PM

To a certain extent, Brian Pillman. Also Jerry Lynn, Perry Saturn (WWE fucked him up royally), Chavo, Vampiro (especially teaming with the Great Muta...but ICP fucked that up.), Rick Martel, Sean O'haire, Kronik, Blood Runs Cold faction.....and of course, Daffney. :love:


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