NBA 2006 Offseason Thread
 

Starts with the draft tomorrow. Toronto lookin to trade that #1? I'd take Morrison over anyone right now..and Roy will be a stud. I don't understand why these GM's keep drafting project big men within the first 5 picks, they usually never pan out.

Not a "hot" draft this year but whatever. I picture Hassan Adams a good Scottie Pippen type of player. Hopefully he'll go to a team that needs that.

Yeah I am not excited for this draft. Celtics probably picking up a pointguard, all the projections I've seen haven't had any PGs going before the Celts pick at 7 so they will be able to grab whoever they think is the best at the 1. I read in the paper that Ainge is open to trading the pick and one of the Celtics current young players for a big name player, i'd love to see that. I am sick of this "rebuilding" bullshit that has been going on for basically my entire life (outside of a few seasons) The paper was throwing around huge names but that was probably just a bunch of BS.

ROFL@JJ Reddick being projected to go to Seattle in a few mock drafts I've seen, sure The Miz will love that

I know this is offtopic but I really miss the grind of the NBA season. Actually kinda feel lost now. :) October cant comes quicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm hoping the Pacers make a deal to try to get Rudy Gay or Adam Morrison. I dont care what people say about Rudy Gay. The guy is one helluva a player. He'll get a fire lit under his ass in the NBA and when that happens, look out.

I love Morrison. Not because of his skill ( which is pretty basic and nothing special ), but because you cant teach a player how to be a fiery competititor and a winner. That guy is both. I love his EA commercial too.

My sleeper ( The player we'll be talking about in coming years ) Rodney Carney.

Who do i think the Pacers will draft?

I can see a situation where maybe Reddick falls and Indiana picks him up. I wouldnt mind that. I also wouldnt be suprised if they picked Quincy Doby with number 17. He's a Reggie Miller type guy.

Hassan Adams with number 45 pick would be sweet.

Trade Rumors :

The hottest rumor i've heard here in Indy involving Jermaine O'Neal is O'Neal and the 17th pick to Chicago for Ben Gordon, Tyson Chandler and the number 2 pick.

Doubt it happens though. I cant see Chicago letting Ben Gordon go. That guy is money.

We will not pick poetry boy. If we do I might have to find a new team. I slowly lose more interest in the Sonics every year but if we pick that little fag... jesus. Where the hell did you read that though? I don't see how Redick could be a top 20 pick

My top 10 mock:

1. TOR - Andrea Bargnani (Italy)
2. CHI - Rudy Gay (UConn)
3. CHA - Tyrus Thomas (Louisiana St.)
4. POR - Adam Morisson (Gonzaga)
5. ATL - LaMarcus Aldridge (Texas)
6. MIN - Brandon Roy (Washington)
7. BOS - Marcus Williams (UConn)
8. HOU - Shelden Williams (Duke)
9. GS - Randy Foye (Villanova)
10. SEA - Ronnie Brewer (Arkansas)

Miz, do you go to any Huskie games?

I don't really know, I definetly saw it somewhere and thought it was funny. Don't think it'd actaully happen.

I hope the Celts pick up Williams with their pick, i've heard a lot about Foye though and Im expecting them to get him instead. I watched a lot of 'Nova's games but nothing really stands out about him since they had so many guards playing at once. I remember seeing a lot of good things from Williams, whether or not that will translate to success in the NBA I don't know.

I think Shannon Brown (Michigan State) is gonna a be huge sleeper in this draft. On this mock draft I am looking at right now (CBS Sportsline) they got him going to the Nets. That'd be a perfect fit for him, could easily see him running the wing in the Nets offense and banging it on Raef Lafrenz 4 games a year :(

I dont care how much poetry he reads. I think he's gunna be a good player. I'd love to have him. He has Ginobli potential.

How is JJ Redick any better than potential 2nd round pick Gerry McNamara?

Shannon Brown is fucking sick. I watched Big Ten ball all year. This guy would have blown up if he wasnt handcuffed by Tom Izzo's Paul Davis fetish.

I could see Hassan Adams anywhere really.

Hey Joey, stop talking about UofA.


Fine then.

Are you fucking serious? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about if you are.

I'm pretty sure Ginobli does more than take long 3 pointers all the time

Seriously though how can you compare Redick to Ginobili, their games are nothing alike. Redick is unathletic, slow, and an awful passer and defender. He has no offhand and can only go right to the basket. Ginobili is a slasher and is pretty much ambi going to the basket. He is a crazy passer and plays good aggressive D (yeah he's a flopper but so what, so is everyone else). Redick is a jump shooter and Ginobili is a slasher, just because they're white and play the same position doesn't make them similar

For starters, Reddick is 2 inches taller and more of a pure shooter the Mcnamara. Reddick fits the 2 guard mold alot better the Mcnamara does. Mcnamara is not a point guard and he's only 6'2 which pretty much means he wont get drafted.

Mcnamara is alot more slower and cant even compare to Reddicks athletic ability ( which says so much cause Reddick isnt the most athletic player in the draft.) Mcnamara cant playe defense.

Reddick has good enough ability to drive to the basket and create his own shot or pass. Mcnamara has no way of creating his own shot unless its a fade from the arc.

Theres a major difference.

Ginobili*

Obviously Reddick was a much better player in college, but do you really think Reddick's game will translate well into the NBA?

I'm pretty sure you didnt watch a Duke game all year. Reddick can drive to basket and finish. He isnt a leaper and wont dunk on anyone, but he can make tough layups or pass kick the ball out. That along with the fact that he's one of the purest shooters coming out , is pretty deadly.

BTW i didnt compare anyone to Ginobli. I like how you turn my words around there. I said he has Ginobli potential.

lol

Yeah. It's us. Not you. We're the bad guys.

Well.. i dunno. Honestly i cant say for sure. Given the right system possibly yes. I dont think he'll score 20 a game, but he'll be a solid player .

Reddick ability to drive to the hoop did improve greatly his senior year but I really can't see this guy being good guard in the NBA. Maybe like a Steve Kerr or something definetly can't see him being a Kirk Heinrich type (gotta keep the White thing going here)

Typing and playing poker and my poker screen kept popping up as i was playing.

I think he's better then Heinrich was when he came out.

I cant even find where i typed Reddick...creat his own shot.

You sure about that statement? Heinrich was a first team all american playing in the national championship when he came out (Heinrich also dunked it baseline in traffic in that game) Where as Reddick lost in the sweet 16 I think (2 First team All Americans on the same team and they still don't make the final 4) and had 2 fast break dunks in his Duke career.

Post 18 line 9 or so

I watched quite a few, thanks. He can drive but he only attacks the basket if he is wide open, if he ran into anyone he would immediately pass. He does not make "tough layups". You're right, he is a fantastic shooter. But that's ALL. At Duke they would have 3 people guarding him so he could easily find an open man. That doesn't make him a good passer. In the NBA no one is going to respect him that much. Saying he can create his own shot is fucking laughable. He is purely catch and shoot.

His fitness is a joke too. He never had anything left in the 2nd half, he would hit a bunch of 3's and go into the half with 25 points, then finish with 31 and everyone would go "what a game!" He has no chance of surviving in the NBA with stamina that bad. That's why his most likely role is a Keith Van Horn type off the bench (continuing the white theme). He never hit a big or game winning shot in his career, not becuase he was a choker but because he was too fucking tired at the end. Not a surprise he never did anything in the NCAA tournament because playing a game every other day is too much for him

btw "[...]" represents taking out words in a quote, if thats what you mean lol

The Miz, do you go to any Huskie games?

Yeah all of them. Free for students

Yah, but they arent drafting Duke, or Kansas. They're drafting the player. Reddick was an All American also and sure he had a tuff performace in the tourney, but that shouldnt be reasoning for passing on him. No team is drafting this guy to be a superstar player that will carry there team. Same with Heinrich. Same with almost every player in this years draft to be honest.

I think Reddick is gunna shock some people. I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but i think its automatically assumed that because he's white and read poetry or some shit, that he'll suck in the NBA. I think he's a special player. I think he'll contribute in a large way for a team. I'm just saying that i would love to have the guy on Indiana. He's a winner , he can shoot, he can flat out play the game of basketball.

How is saying JJ Reddick has Ginobili potential not saying that you think he is a similar player to Ginaobili? Wouldn't you just say he has potential to be an all star? Than you said you don't see him scoring 20 PPG so I dunno where you going with this - Since Ginobili is more than just a "solid player." It's not like Ginobili is James Posey or something. So how exactly does JJ Reddicks potential have anything to do with Ginobili at all?

What about away games? (We should meet up)

He's a winner? What the hell did Duke ever win when he was there?

He's a shooter, yes.

He can flat out play the game of basketball? No, he can flat out shoot the basketball

He would be a nice guy to have as a 7th or 8th man off the bench to hit 3's while your stars are on the bench. But that's it. Not worthy of a top 20 pick

yeah exactly, if you are saying he is the next Ginobili or a Ginobili type player than obviously you are comparing the two.

Thats a bunch of bullshit. There was nothing wrong with Reddicks stamina. He did make tough layups and he did drive in traffic. I'm not sure where the hell you get your info, but i watched probably half of Dukes games ( Cause ESPN has a hardon for Duke ) and almost everything you say about Reddick is the exact opposite of what i saw from Reddick. I'm not sure how many games you watched, but i think you're talking out of your ass.