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Destor 09-07-2006 01:30 AM

Paul is Dead
 
I do not believe this; I merely thought would be entertaining to see the boards explanation if it was:


A)Hoax to sell albums
B)Made completely by the fans and it all is coincidence
C)Paul is Dead


HOW IT ALL STARTED


It is difficult to pinpoint the exact origin of the 'Paul Is Dead' hoax. Some believe the Beatles and Apple Records started the rumor as a marketing ploy to sell albums. That John Lennon started it out of jealousy. That overzealous fans conjured up the idea. Or that Paul McCartney is actually dead, and this was the way it was announced.

We may never know the true origin of the hoax. However, we do know how it was brought into public knowledge.

In 1969 Russell Gibb, a radio Disc Jockey in Detroit, announced that Paul McCartney was dead. His proof: evidence strewn throughout the Beatles' songs, movies, and album artwork. Newspaper and television reporters picked up the story and the news quickly spread across America.


THE STORY OF PAUL'S DEATH


The story states that Paul McCartney was involved in a car accident. Apparently "he hadn't noticed that the lights had changed." The accident occurred at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday morning. Cause of death was massive head trauma. So severe were his wounds that dental records were useless for identifying the body.

No accident report was made public due to pending investigation of the occupant. Beatles' insiders learned it was Paul, but kept silent. Understanding the ramifications of such news, the remaining Beatles hatched a cover-up.

A Paul McCartney look alike contest was held. William Campbell won first place, but the results were never announced. Campbell's prize was to be made a clone of Paul for photos, videos, movies, etc. Plastic surgery was used to smooth out the minor differences. They failed to fix a scar on Campbell's upper lip - this is how you can tell authentic McCartney photos from the Campbell ones.


THE CLUES
FINAL THOUGHTS


Was it a practical joke, a cruel hoax, or simply all coincidence? Most of the clues are very ambiguous. The certainly do not offer concrete evidence as to whether or not they were planted or simply coincidental. Most of the clues can be refuted wither way. Who was behind the whole thing? Nobody knows for sure. I am certain that each Beatle has publicly denied having anything to do with the hoax. I am also certain that Paul is NOT dead - I saw him in person a few years ago.

One thing is certain, as long as the Beatles music exits, so will the "Paul is Dead" rumor.

http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/pid.html

Boondock Saint 09-07-2006 01:36 AM

Wrote a 10page paper on this thing my freshman year in college. Good times.

weather vane 09-07-2006 03:01 AM

this shit freaks me out

I dunno why

Destor 09-07-2006 03:06 AM

yeah, every since I was a kid it has given me weird chill. Never understood why though.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-07-2006 03:32 AM

Pretty bizarre.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 10:06 AM

Paul is smoking with his right hand. Paul played the bass as a lefty. This shows that an imposter was brought in for the photograph.

Proof they didn't know the Beatles too well.

Anyway, as long as there is music, there will be rumours and conspiracies. The real answer is that someone read too much into things, and it caught on. B, in short.

Downunder 09-07-2006 08:42 PM

LOL

Never heard of that before - ridiculous

Destor 09-07-2006 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Paul is smoking with his right hand. Paul played the bass as a lefty. This shows that an imposter was brought in for the photograph.

Proof they didn't know the Beatles too well.

Anyway, as long as there is music, there will be rumours and conspiracies. The real answer is that someone read too much into things, and it caught on. B, in short.

I lean toward A. To many of these in the songs to be coincidence for my taste.

Destor 09-07-2006 10:14 PM

Especially after Revolution 9

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 10:17 PM

You have to really work at it to make most of those songs work. Theyre so arbitrary and loose.

Destor 09-07-2006 10:32 PM

But not rev 9 (amongst others) that is blatant and clear as day.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 10:52 PM

Bullshit.

Destor 09-07-2006 10:54 PM

Nah

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:13 PM

Really.

There is no intelligent reason to go from "Turn me on, Deadman," to "This is an elaborate hoax staged by the BEatles to indicate Paul is dead."

Savio 09-07-2006 11:21 PM

I'm not dead

END OF STORY!

Destor 09-07-2006 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Really.

There is no intelligent reason to go from "Turn me on, Deadman," to "This is an elaborate hoax staged by the BEatles to indicate Paul is dead."

Nor is that what I'm saying. There is alot in that song besides that lyric, and it cant be ANYTHING ELSE except a description of the car wreck. The only other option was the Beatles were having fun with the concept, like a satirical piece. Which is possible. I was only using REV. 9 as an example of clear as day clues. Which if you think "Turn me on deadman" is the only "clue" you haven't listened to every other second of that song. there are far to many of these "clues" through out for them not to have some role. Whether it was as a joke or an attempt to make money. At some point, they started making on purpose.


And for the record I don't believe that magic bullet theory either.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:30 PM

Prove it.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:32 PM

Prove what? Rev 9 played backwards being a descripton of the car wreck?

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:33 PM

And it must specifically relate to Paul's death in some meaningful way.

I mean, Bowie wote several songs which describe car wrecks. ZOMG! MICK RONSON DIED IN THE 70S!

I suspect "All the Young Dudes" is a memorial to Freddie Mercury, who died in the same car crash.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:36 PM

I guess I could try.

http://kingtet.com/number9.htm

Destor 09-07-2006 11:45 PM

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=470 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle bgColor=lightblue>Revolution 9
Turn Me On, Dead Man
</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=white> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Revolution 9 is a sound collage, and The Beatles CDography and Steve's Beatles Page provide transcriptions of the intelligible dialog in the "Revolution 9". Early in the track two men are heard talking "I know all about it George. I'm sorry. Will you forgive me? Yes." Supposedly this short recording was John talking with George Martin about the placing of clues on the records. Several parts of Revolution 9 contain audio clues to Paul's death--the most noteworthy of these was from the repeated phrase "Number 9" http://www.turnmeondeadman.net/grfx/listen.gif. When this is played backwards, it sounds like "turn me on, dead man," http://www.turnmeondeadman.net/grfx/listen.gif which darkly recalls the line "I'd love to turn you on" from "A Day in the Life". In the sound collage of "Revolution 9" are the sounds of Paul's fatal accident. At one point you hear car horns, then a car crash, followed by a fire burning. When played backwards you can hear "Let me out! There were two. There are none now." When played normally you can clearly hear the following lines: "he hit a pole. We better get him to see a surgeon. So anyhow he went to a dentist instead. The gave him a pair of teeth that weren't any good at all. So my wings are broken and so is my hair. I'm not in the mood for words. Find the night watchman. A fine natural imbalance. He must have got it in the shoulder blades. Take this brother, may it serve you well" The final line marking Paul's passing of the torch to William Campbell.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:45 PM

Thats about the best I can do with out putting some sort of effort into it.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:49 PM

Most of the backmaked statements are bullshit at best.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:51 PM

Did you listen to it though? the first link had a downloadable version backmasked fully.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:51 PM

And even forwards it still talking about it.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:53 PM

Dunno, still (this song excluded even) there is far too much for it to be all coincidence.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:54 PM

And yes, I've listend to "Every second of the song."

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
Dunno, still (this song excluded even) there is far too much for it to be all coincidence.

And yet, you've not lillustrated that. Go figure.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
Did you listen to it though? the first link had a downloadable version backmasked fully.

Actually, I have a copy of the CD, and Sound Recorder.

Technology...Amazing.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
And yet, you've not lillustrated that. Go figure.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
I do not believe this; I merely thought would be entertaining to see the boards explanation if it was:


A)Hoax to sell albums
B)Made completely by the fans and it all is coincidence
C)Paul is Dead


HOW IT ALL STARTED


It is difficult to pinpoint the exact origin of the 'Paul Is Dead' hoax. Some believe the Beatles and Apple Records started the rumor as a marketing ploy to sell albums. That John Lennon started it out of jealousy. That overzealous fans conjured up the idea. Or that Paul McCartney is actually dead, and this was the way it was announced.

We may never know the true origin of the hoax. However, we do know how it was brought into public knowledge.

In 1969 Russell Gibb, a radio Disc Jockey in Detroit, announced that Paul McCartney was dead. His proof: evidence strewn throughout the Beatles' songs, movies, and album artwork. Newspaper and television reporters picked up the story and the news quickly spread across America.


THE STORY OF PAUL'S DEATH


The story states that Paul McCartney was involved in a car accident. Apparently "he hadn't noticed that the lights had changed." The accident occurred at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday morning. Cause of death was massive head trauma. So severe were his wounds that dental records were useless for identifying the body.

No accident report was made public due to pending investigation of the occupant. Beatles' insiders learned it was Paul, but kept silent. Understanding the ramifications of such news, the remaining Beatles hatched a cover-up.

A Paul McCartney look alike contest was held. William Campbell won first place, but the results were never announced. Campbell's prize was to be made a clone of Paul for photos, videos, movies, etc. Plastic surgery was used to smooth out the minor differences. They failed to fix a scar on Campbell's upper lip - this is how you can tell authentic McCartney photos from the Campbell ones.


THE CLUES
FINAL THOUGHTS


Was it a practical joke, a cruel hoax, or simply all coincidence? Most of the clues are very ambiguous. The certainly do not offer concrete evidence as to whether or not they were planted or simply coincidental. Most of the clues can be refuted wither way. Who was behind the whole thing? Nobody knows for sure. I am certain that each Beatle has publicly denied having anything to do with the hoax. I am also certain that Paul is NOT dead - I saw him in person a few years ago.

One thing is certain, as long as the Beatles music exits, so will the "Paul is Dead" rumor.

http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/pid.html


Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
And even forwards it still talking about it.

Forward it also says "Block that kick!"

Forward it has a ton of disparate statements. Backwards it has a ton of disparate statements, many open to interpretation on their best days. Even the conspiracy theorists can't agree what is says specifically.

Kane Knight 09-07-2006 11:58 PM

Yes, and most of those are wide and loose interpretations that belie your sentiment that they MUST indicate something.

Destor 09-07-2006 11:59 PM

Pretty big coincidences.

Destor 09-08-2006 12:00 AM

Paul isn't dead ftr. But these were planted. I have little doubts there.

Kane Knight 09-08-2006 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
Pretty big coincidences.

Oh yes, Rita the Meter Maid is a huge clue, and it's too coincidental to believe that this isn't an elaborate machiavellian scheme.

Destor 09-08-2006 12:04 AM

What ever, believe the magic bullet theory. I not trying to sway you, I was only saying my take.

Kane Knight 09-08-2006 12:09 AM

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  • The photograph is taken from the prospective of the real Paul McCartnery looking up from his grave.
  • The title of the album is written in the shape of an upside down heart.
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It's just too bad it doesn't look the a perspective from the grave, and a heart shape is so meaningless.

Kane Knight 09-08-2006 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
What ever, believe the magic bullet theory. I not trying to sway you, I was only saying my take.

It's not a magic bullet theory. It's a "Not making up random theories" statement. There is no theory here which I am trying to assert. You are making assertions of a theory which doesn't hold water. I am simply scrutinising it. Dubbing it a "magic bullet theory" indicates how little your theory really has to stand on.

Destor 09-08-2006 12:12 AM

Good job picking out the worst ones:


  • The people are looking at what appears to be a freshly dug grave.
  • The yellow flowers (directly below the flowers that spell Beatles) are in the shape of a bass guitar. Paul was the bass player for The Beatles.
  • There are three sticks on the yellow flowers that represent the strings of the bass. There are only THREE sticks to represent the THREE remaining Beatles.
  • Also, notice that the yellow flowers spell out 'PAUL?'; questioning Paul's existance.
  • The doll on the right of the cover (in the white, black, and red stripes) has a small white car, with a blood red interior, on her lap. This is a model of the car that Paul died in.
  • Direcly below the doll's left foot is a white vase with yellow flowers in it. If you look closely it resembles a car plummeting over a cliff with flames coming out of the back end.
  • Below the 'T' in Beatles is a statue of the Hindu God Shiva 'The Destroyer.' Its hand points directly to Paul.
  • Notice The Beatles standing behind the drum in the center of the photo. They are standing sideways except for Paul who is facing directly forward. John, Ringo, and George look *three dimensional* while Paul looks like one of the cardboard cutouts.
  • Paul is the only one holding a black instrument. Black is associated with death. This may seem insignificant now, but it turns up a few more times.
  • This is the first occasion where we see an open palm above Paul McCartney's head. There are many different theories as to what this signifies. It is generally taken to mean either that the person under the open palm will soon die or has recently passed away. As you will see, this turns up quite a few times.
  • http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/drumsp.gif
  • Take a small mirror, or the bottom of a CD will work, and place it perpendicular to the center of the drum, so that you split 'LONELY HEARTS' in half. Now read the combined writing on the drum and the mirror. It says 1 ONE 1 X HE | DIE. '1 ONE 1' equals three, another reference to three Beatles. The 'X' crosses out Paul because he is no longer alive. And the arrow between 'He' and 'Die' points directly to Paul.

Destor 09-08-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
It's not a magic bullet theory. It's a "Not making up random theories" statement. There is no theory here which I am trying to assert. You are making assertions of a theory which doesn't hold water. I am simply scrutinising it. Dubbing it a "magic bullet theory" indicates how little your theory really has to stand on.

Whatever. The magic bullet theory is a theory of coincidence, just as you claim this to be.


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