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Dorkchop 10-22-2006 02:01 AM
If you were Lesnar...
 
and were being treated way better than everyone else and were a huge star all over the world, would you leave to suck royally trying out for the NFL?

Pepsi Man 10-22-2006 02:06 AM
Yup, and then I'd complain about being held to my contract after the NFL thing failed.

Fignuts 10-22-2006 02:29 AM
sigh

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Originally Posted by Fignuts
I also, miss Lesnar as well. I never saw the problem with him leaving really. Yes, he did leave an empty space on the roster, and it rubbed a couple guys like Big Show the wrong way. But you've got to look at the bigger picture. Playing football was his dream since he was a little kid. Pro Wrestling wasn't. This was probably his one and only shot at making his dream come true. He would be stupid not to take it. Yeah there are people in the wrestling business who helped him out for his and the company's sake, but its not like he left the company in shambles. His leaving didn't hurt smackdown that bad. And if he wouldn't have left, he would have that regret, and doubt in his mind for tthe rest of his life. He didn't do anything any of you wouldn't do.<!-- / message -->

M-A-G 10-22-2006 03:05 AM
If I didn't love wrestling, I wouldn't have done it in the first place. There's the difference between him and me.

the wwe champion 10-22-2006 04:49 AM
Brock is was and will be the biggest superstar for smackdown! not even Batista can take his place

St. Jimmy 10-22-2006 04:53 AM
Too bad American football sucks. Waste of a life I say.

Pepsi Man 10-22-2006 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the wwe champion
Brock is was and will be the biggest superstar for smackdown! not even Batista can take his place
I don't know. I think The Rock was a bigger star. I could be mistaken, though.

Destor 10-22-2006 01:10 PM
Wrestling is all I have ever wanted, so personally I would say no. But for Brock Lesnar that's not the case so If I were Brock I would've gone all or nothing in the NFL.

M-A-G 10-22-2006 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
I don't know. I think The Rock was a bigger star. I could be mistaken, though.
What, are you kidding me? It's Brock freaking Lesnar we're talking about! An overpushed, bland-as-fuck, whiny bitch who only lasted 2 years and moved wrestling in no major upward direction. He's OBVIOUSLY the biggest star ever!!!

Pepsi Man 10-22-2006 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by M-A-G
What, are you kidding me? It's Brock freaking Lesnar we're talking about! An overpushed, bland-as-fuck, whiny bitch who only lasted 2 years and moved wrestling in no major upward direction. He's OBVIOUSLY the biggest star ever!!!
My bad.:(

Kane Knight 10-22-2006 02:12 PM
So much hate for Lesnar. It's amazing.

Afterlife 10-22-2006 03:24 PM
Yeah...The guy sucked anyway.

Übermensch 10-22-2006 04:18 PM
In response to the first question, yes, I absolutely would, without a second thought.

Destor 10-22-2006 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
So much hate for Lesnar. It's amazing.
Funny, considering you were one of his biggest suppressors a little over a year ago.

Kane Knight 10-22-2006 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Destor
Funny, considering you were one of his biggest suppressors a little over a year ago.
Man, are you delusional, are are you that desperate to make up an argument?

Though I've always maintained he's a whiny bitch, I've also always been very big on what he actually brings to Wrestling (as opposed to being overpushed and bland, the reason I responded in the first place), and even supported the notion of him in MMA overall.

...Yeah, that's right. Destor's full of shit again.

Probably shouldn't have wasted my time viewing this post.

Destor 10-22-2006 05:23 PM
Bullshit.

Kane Knight 10-22-2006 05:43 PM
Yeah, this is better.

I didn't know that all this time, supporting him for his amazing abilities, that I was "suppressing" him.

Fignuts 10-22-2006 06:50 PM
I really don't understand people who say he's bland and untalented. He was a little green in some areas, but not much. He had some awesome matches with big show. And they would have been foolish not to push him like they did. Just look at the guy. He's a fucking beast. And a phenomenal mat wrestler. His mic skills arn't the greatest but they're not really bad either. And they were improving at a rapid rate. I mean what the fuck more do you want?

M-A-G 10-22-2006 07:40 PM
I'm sorry, he had WHAT kind of matches with Big Show?!?!? :lol:

M-A-G 10-22-2006 07:42 PM
Oh, and if he "was a little green in some areas" and had mic skills that "arn't the greatest" what business did he have being a forced main eventer for an entire two years over people who could work a crowd 10 times better, deliver interviews a lot more appealing, and have BETTER matches with the Big Show?

Kane Knight 10-22-2006 07:52 PM
Does everyone in the main event need mic skills? The guy still had charisma, and could work an awesome match. I'm normally not big on pushing "hosses," but the guy was impressive in many ways...He just couldn't talk. That's what managers/promoters/handlers are for, what's the deal?

Caged Heat18 10-22-2006 09:05 PM
I hated the way he left, but when he apart of the WWE I really liked the guy. He had several great matches, like vs. Guerrero at No Way Out '04, and vs. Angle at WM XIX.

AdrianM 10-22-2006 09:36 PM
I never particuarly liked Brock, but for someone to say there were people who could work the crowd 10 times better than him, thats just crap.

Yeah, Brock was pushed to the moon, but christ, as someone else said, he was a beast. He was a hoss who could actually wrestle really damn well.

Kane Knight 10-22-2006 09:57 PM
It's just a shame that they pushed a tremendous athelete to the moon. They should have kept him on Velocity for a few years.

Fignuts 10-22-2006 10:43 PM
And pushed viscera to the title.

Kane Knight 10-22-2006 11:38 PM
Exactly.

HeartBreakMan2k 10-23-2006 12:26 AM
If I weren't extremely happy with WWE and I genuinely wanted to give football a shot then absolutely.

M-A-G 10-23-2006 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k
If I weren't extremely happy with WWE and I genuinely wanted to give football a shot then absolutely.
Then why not do football first instead of wasting everyone else's time?

M-A-G 10-23-2006 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
I never particuarly liked Brock, but for someone to say there were people who could work the crowd 10 times better than him, thats just crap.

Yeah, Brock was pushed to the moon, but christ, as someone else said, he was a beast. He was a hoss who could actually wrestle really damn well.
Yes, yes, cause the crowds were just chanting for him to return after he left in 2004. Christ, Matt freakin' Hardy got more of a response than he did so think about that one. And the only real blowaway match I can remember him having was his WrestleMania match with Angle and that's mainly because of his Idiot Botched Shooting Star Press of Doom. His matches with Taker were watchable at best, he pretty much squashed anyone under the upper-midcard, and relied more on brawling and the WWE style than his natural amatuer skills. Did he have the ability? Yes. Did he use it? No. Forgive me for not finding him as entertaining and worthy as other people but that's how I honestly feel. The guy meant nothing in the long run.

M-A-G 10-23-2006 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Caged Heat18
He had several great matches, like vs. Guerrero at No Way Out '04
You mean that extended squash that pretty much stated Guerrero wasn't in his league and only won because of ref bumpage? Oh, yeah, that's a classic.

Destor 10-23-2006 04:17 AM
That match was classic, this finish I wasn't happy with. But a bad finish does a bad match not make.

M-A-G 10-23-2006 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Destor
That match was classic, this finish I wasn't happy with. But a bad finish does a bad match not make.
I'm not just talking about the finish. The match was all Lesnar with little spurts of him being generous enough to let Guerrero kick away at his leg every 10 minutes or so. It was like their first match but with an extra 15 minutes attached to it.

Destor 10-23-2006 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by M-A-G
I'm not just talking about the finish. The match was all Lesnar with little spurts of him being generous enough to let Guerrero kick away at his leg every 10 minutes or so. It was like their first match but with an extra 15 minutes attached to it.
So, the only good matches are back and forth ones? Come from behind victories cant be classics? Personally I thought the match was brilliant. I was marking out the whole way through. But thats just me.

Schoenauer 10-23-2006 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
...Yeah, that's right. We're all full of shit.

M-A-G 10-23-2006 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Destor
So, the only good matches are back and forth ones? Come from behind victories cant be classics? Personally I thought the match was brilliant. I was marking out the whole way through. But thats just me.
They can be good (for the record I voted this match as number 10 on the top ten matches of 2004 so I don't exactly hate it) just not memorable or worthwhile in the long run. What do you remember more: Rock and Hurricane verbally duking out or Rock vs. Hurricance? All the match really did was set up Brock's match with Goldberg.

Destor 10-23-2006 05:00 AM
That's one of my favorite matches form the last 5 years, so I can't really speak from an unbias stand point. Did it set up a Goldberg feud? Yes. But when Goldberg wasn't out there that match was sooooo good. The psychology of their every single move, ahh. Flawless. That match cemented them as two of my top 10 favorite wrestlers. So again I am little bias. Did it set up a future feud? Yes, but I don't see how that takes away from the work they did in the ring.

Afterlife 10-23-2006 10:19 AM
Oh, by the way...Lesnar had the charisma of a damp sandwich.

Kane Knight 10-23-2006 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k
If I weren't extremely happy with WWE and I genuinely wanted to give football a shot then absolutely.
Well, it's pretty clear he didn't, as he would only play for the majors.

Kane Knight 10-23-2006 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Afterlife
Oh, by the way...Lesnar had the charisma of a damp sandwich.
...So long as you define it as a verbal skill, yes.

The Show Off 10-23-2006 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Afterlife
Oh, by the way...Lesnar had the charisma of a damp sandwich.
Depending on the kind of sandwich that could be an incredible complement. But if you're just talking about plain turkey and rye, then I guess you're saying that Brock Lesner is bland, dry, boring, anjd depending on the type of rye bread has too many seeds. But if you're talking about a vlub sandwich then you're saying that he's flavorful, richly versitile, layered, smokey, mouth watering, and delicious...

...mmmm sandwich....


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