Steroid uand other performance enhancing drug use...
 

Ok I know there's been various controversies over this issue in the past related to Vince and the WWE but whats the policy these days, is there one at all?

I ask because I watched an old tape recently (RR2K I think) and it never occurred to me when I was younger just how stacked most wrestlers are. Even Brian Christopher had arms the size of a tree-trunk, he didn't look roided (no popping veins or pink skin tone etc) but its just insane how well built some guys are. I know its kind of a necessity for a lot of guys btw.

Also I know most guys can build that kinda physique over a long period of time but generally there must come a point where you plateau and reach your peak?

Apart from the obvious (ie Scott Steiner and Vinny Mac), who dya suspect has juiced a lot? Brock Lesnar always looked a little too huge to be natural, same goes for Triple H, his transformation from lean but in proportion to 1% bodyfat laden hulk was far too quick:-\

Also Davey Boy Smith must've been on something during his 99 comeback, the guy was so ridiculously cut and toned its untrue

Davey Boy was on alot of different things.

The only guys that stick out to me that are toned (i.e not Vader, Yokozuna etc) that haven't juiced IMO:

Chris Benoit
Lance Storm
CM Punk
Stevie Richards

There's more but they are the ones that stick out to me

Its when you get a guys with extreme definition everywhere, even on their quads and stuff like that, ie Steiner, Trips and so on. You can tell guys like the Rock don't juice because they're big but still have that layer of fat that you get from doing heavy lifting (the amount you have to eat is obscene)

The Rock did have enhancements though, think he had lypo back in 99, which is why he was wearing the black pants and lose top for a while, during the Foley/Rock feud.

And also considering the amount of size he's now lost since leaving wrestling, you'd have to think he was taking something to mainstain that size as the guy was doing so much PR he couldn't be hitting the gym as much as others.

Lesner is a weird one, cos he was a pretty fecking massive guy back in college, so you would asume that he would of been drug tested as he was in competition

Yeah I knew Rock had the lypo on his manboobies but like I said think as far as steroids he definitely didn't do any, his look was always natural, ie in proportion, he was never massive, guys like Steiner and Lesnar have that unnatural look, ie shoulders so big that the only way you can get them is to juice

I would imagine Beniot did. His arms are massive. I knew a guy that went to wrestlemania in Seattle and got aisle seats. He told me beniot probably had the biggest arms.

I would imagine every wrestler ever at one time or another has done Steriods.

Seriously

Definitely.

So he didn't stay to see HHH vs. Booker, Vince vs. Hogan, and Lesnar vs. Angle?

Shelton Benjamin stands out somewhat in my mind as someone who doesn't appear to have roided. Don't know if he would count as someone who is very well built, though. But I have alot of trouble believing that anyone in the WWE has made it through without using some kind've enhancement, one way or another.

The leading cause of sports-related victories? The worst drug of all. God.

Note - Also the leading cause of: Aids, Death, War, Rape, and Famine.

I'm just going on what I was told.

Maybe he had the most unproportional arms to the size of his body. I dont' talk to him anymore as he started using steriods.

The only reason I say Benoit is because he's been body building since he was like 14 and he looked pretty decent and naturally got bigger, there was no growth spurt on him.

Cena was a pro body builder and I think there's drug testing in that isn't there?

Some bodybuilding comps have testing and others don't I think.

Benoit is or has definately done steroids. Not even a doubt about it.

I don't believe maybe people when they say they don't do juice but I believe Lance Storm. I can also believe Ron Simmons and John Cena (at least from his wrestling career). I'm convinced Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty were clean from steroids too.

Most crusierweights have done steroids for some stupid reason. Yes, that includes Rey Mysterio, Juventud Guerrera and Matt Hyson.

Chris Jericho always looked clean too from what I remember.

I looked at two tapes of Chyna recently, one from 1998 before she started wrestling and then on RR2K, she lost a lot of mass during that time, slimmed down a lot, dunno if she was on the roids or not:-\

Yeah the amount of muscle mass Mysterio gained between WCW and WWE was just fucking stupid

Yeah i'd say HBK hasn't done any, as he's never had the need to really.

What about Bret?

Doubt Owen did though.

Like I've said the whole thing with roids is you put on obscene amounts of mass but at the same time lose a lot of fat, thats pretty impossible to do at the same time without roids, the amount you have to eat to put on the mass otherwise means you inevitably put on fat too, which could explain the rock's problem, had he done roids he would've gotten twice as big and been so ripped you'd see veins on his veins.

I don't think Bret did really. He wasn't really ripped or big at all.

Did Hennig ever do them? He seemed to have a great build, and know he obviously used some drugs which lead to his death, but I never knew about steroids

Edge and Ric Flair used them. I mean, there's no way for any of us keyboard warriors to have a valid opinion on who did and did not use them. Those two guys would be last on my list of people I thought on them.

Obviously its generally all guesswork, although I'd say its pretty much beyond reasonable doubt that Triple H did them at some point, he almost doubled in size ffs, and Steiner 100% definitely did them, if anybody disputes that they need to die

I believe Lance Storm for some reason when he says he never used...other than that I am guessing maybe CM Punk and a handful of others. I simply don't believe that people in the wrestling industry don't use steroids. They are so simple to get, and not that hard to hide...plus...THEY WORK! They do exactly what you want them to do. It's just plain foolishness if you don't think most of them arn't roiding once in a while. Even respectable internet fan friendly workers like Benoit and Jericho I am sure used steroids.

Jericho looks pretty natural Imo :-\

Jericho has never looked like a roid monkey to me.

I don't think Jericho took roid every morning with breakfast like Steiner or Hunter do...but I certainly think he took them once in a while if he ever felt himself getting too tiny. I also think a lot of MMA fighters take them as well, and most of those guys arn't huge and bulky either.

It depends how much you do I assume. If you do one cycle I'd imagine you'd get your gains without looking 'freaky' like Steiner

UFC suspends guys caught with steriods int heir piss.

Edge said in an interview a while ago that he has taken roids before. Christian was there too, and didn't really want to answer. Obviously, Christian isn't on roids now, but I'm sure he at least tried. Edge seemed a tad juiced up when he was returning after his neck surgery. I know he had nothing but time to work out for months before he came back, but he was pretty big and ripped.

I imagine most guys at least use a bit of steroids in the beginning of their career for mass.

I'm glad a lot of guys aren't on roids right now. It's so much better for your health. Just look at Batista and all his injuries. Then look at Christian, Lance Storm, and Jericho's injuries (I didn't mean to name only Canadian wrestlers).

I personally don't care if a guy's on roids or not. Obviously I'd prefer if no one did, but that decision is up to them. I just find a guy on roids doesn't perfom as well as someone not on roids. Remember when Scott Steiner wasn't eating steroids for breakfast? Sure he was probably on them before, but he could actually wrestle.

Yeah Steiner's problem was he became obsessed with working out, he got so big he lost mobility, it shoulda been Midajah in the ring and him the 'freak'

Hmm. Mick Foley was probably roid-free. Just IMO.