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Supreme Olajuwon 02-14-2004 11:43 AM

New trade talks: A-Rod for
 
[Alfonso Soriano]? Thats the deal being talked about in [New York]

A-Rod would play third

Cashman is trying his best to hide whats going on but if this goes down it would be huge

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 11:47 AM

WOW, I was just going to post this. But yeah, I heard this story like four weeks ago on that show "Around the Horn" I'll go nuts if we get A-ROD. Man, how pissed of would the BoSox fans be. LOL Here is the article on ESPN if you want to check it out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1735039

VonErich Lives 02-14-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
WOW, I was just going to post this. But yeah, I heard this story like four weeks ago on that show "Around the Horn" I'll go nuts if we get A-ROD. Man, how pissed of would the BoSox fans be. LOL Here is the article on ESPN if you want to check it out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1735039

As a Sox fan, it really wouldn't bother me, cause if anything it would help assure the Yanks wont get the pitching they need.

Plus, it would put them way over the luxury tax.

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
As a Sox fan, it really wouldn't bother me, cause if anything it would help assure the Yanks wont get the pitching they need.

Plus, it would put them way over the luxury tax.

Really, I don't know. If it were the other way around and the Yankees were pursuing A-Rod and then the Sox got him, that would royally piss me off.

The Icon of Elisim 02-14-2004 02:02 PM

If I were the Yankees I'd rather have Soriano

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-14-2004 02:11 PM

What about Jeter

I think if the Yanks got A-Rod, Jeter would be upset because hes "Mr.Yankee" and all that bullshit

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-14-2004 02:12 PM

Plus NY would still need either a 3rd or 2nd basemen, depending on where A-Rod or Jeter would be moving too

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 04:16 PM

Well Soriano would get traded and Jeter will move to third. So yeah, they will still need a 2nd basemen. And there aren't a whole lot of great 2nd basemen around the league, so losing Soriano would be a tough whole to fill. I don't think the deal will go down anyway. Soriano was utter sh** in the playoffs last year and we all know how Steinbrenner is. No matter how talented you are, if you screw up like Soriano did in the playoffs, your definately on thin ice to be traded.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-14-2004 04:34 PM

I heard the Rangers aggreed to the trade on ESPN just now

but agree "In principle" or some shit like that

Innovator 02-14-2004 04:46 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

A-Rod is in Pinstripes, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Jeter and A-Rod in the same infield, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-14-2004 04:53 PM

Hopefully the Players Union will be blocking this trade aswell hahahaha

Clowns

Excellance of Execution 02-14-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34
Hopefully the Players Union will be blocking this trade aswell hahahaha

Clowns

Hey, you never know. The Yankee's have more money than anyone to throw around, and we all know the player's union, along with just about everyone else in baseball is all about money. Being a die hard Yankee's fan, i would love to see them get A-Rod. If the original post is correct, they would play A-Rod at third and Jeter at short and they would just need a second baseman. They could always play Enrique Wilson there and sign Luis Sojo to platoon there. I don't think second base is to hard to find a replacement for, and if you have the opportunity to get the best player in baseball the Yanks should go for it, just as long as they don't have to overpay to get him.

Sensei Of Mattitude 02-14-2004 05:14 PM

ITS ON MLB.com. NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO! F*CK THE YANKEES. I SERIOUSLY HATE THE NEW YORK YANKEES. A-Rod for Soriano and an Minor Leaguer. Well, guess what New York... You're still NOT Going to Win. Maybe the AL but the Series. Get anybody and it won't happen. This team won't have the chemistry nor a good 1st Baseman. FNY

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 05:14 PM

Yeah sTiMa, I just heard them bring that up on ESPN. I bet you they probably will block it too. But on ESPN they're saying the deal is "all but done." But if the deal does go through, the Yankees have Jeter, A-Rod, Giambi and Posada as an infield. That's pretty sick.

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Of Mattitude
ITS ON MLB.com. NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO! F*CK THE YANKEES. I SERIOUSLY HATE THE NEW YORK YANKEES. A-Rod for Soriano and an Minor Leaguer. Well, guess what New York... You're still NOT Going to Win. Maybe the AL but the Series. Get anybody and it won't happen. This team won't have the chemistry nor a good 1st Baseman. FNY

What do you mean not a good 1st baseman? Last time I checked Giambi is considered one of the best 1st baseman in the League.

The Miz 02-14-2004 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
What do you mean not a good 1st baseman? Last time I checked Giambi is considered one of the best 1st baseman in the League.

didn't know a .250 hitter and a horrible defnesive player was considered one of the best in the league.

Yashamaga 02-14-2004 06:18 PM

bullshit

that's all i can say.

oh p.s. I hate A-rod now and wish he dies. along with steinbrenner.

The Miz 02-14-2004 06:22 PM

1. lofton CF
2. jeter SS
3. rodriguez 3B
4. sheffield RF
5. posada C
6. matsui LF
7. giambi 1B
8. williams DH?
9. wilson 2B?

not to mention tony clark, ruben sierra, and mike lamb coming off the bench.

all i can say is damn.

YOUR Hero 02-14-2004 06:30 PM

Giambi is a .300+ hitter. Last year he battled some eye problems.

I like this deal for the Rangers more than I do for the Yankees. Too many heavy hitters in NY now, not enough 'get on base' guys. Even though Soriano put up big HR numbers, he was also a base stealing threat along with Jeter... I guess Lofton's supposed to fill that role, but I dunno, he's had so many hamstring injuries.

Also, apart from the fact that the Red Sox screwed up with Manny by putting him on waivers and him not getting picked up, they too IMO are better off without A-Rod.

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz
didn't know a .250 hitter and a horrible defnesive player was considered one of the best in the league.

Okay, first of all Giambi had one bad year last year in all of his 8 year career in the MLB. He has a career .302 batting average, so it's not like he's been hitting like crap for the last couple of years. He hit .314 for the Yankees in 2002. He hit 41 homers for the Yankees in each of his two seasons with NY. That's 2 less then his career best. His strikeouts really killed him last year though, but everyone goes through bad years. I mean you still have to consider him one of the best offensive threats in the league or your crazy. I would take him at first over anybody in the American League right now except for Delgado

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Giambi is a .300+ hitter. Last year he battled some eye problems.

I like this deal for the Rangers more than I do for the Yankees. Too many heavy hitters in NY now, not enough 'get on base' guys. Even though Soriano put up big HR numbers, he was also a base stealing threat along with Jeter... I guess Lofton's supposed to fill that role, but I dunno, he's had so many hamstring injuries.

Also, apart from the fact that the Red Sox screwed up with Manny by putting him on waivers and him not getting picked up, they too IMO are better off without A-Rod.

No way, the Yankees are getting the best deal in this. I mean why the Rangers didn't go after pitching is a mystery to me. Yeah Soriano is a good player, but the Rangers are in desperate need for pitching right now. But I see your point about the stolen base thing. I guess if you have a lot guys that can hit for extra bases, you don't need that as much though.

YOUR Hero 02-14-2004 07:03 PM

Rangers are no worse off, Yankees very well be.
That's how I meant it when I said the Rangers came out better. I really think this was an "In your face Boston" type of deal.
It's hard to downplay A-Rod, and maybe I'm guilty of that, but from my computer chair, I say they didn't need him with all that they already have.

YOUR Hero 02-14-2004 07:04 PM

Plus. Soriano makes nothing compared to A-Rod so the Rangers may be actively now in the pitching market... if there's anything worth while left that is.

The Icon of Elisim 02-14-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
1. lofton CF
2. jeter SS
3. rodriguez 3B
4. sheffield RF
5. posada C
6. matsui LF
7. giambi 1B
8. williams DH?
9. wilson 2B?

not to mention tony clark, ruben sierra, and mike lamb coming off the bench.

all i can say is damn.

Starting Pitchers:
Javier Vazquez
Mike Mussina
Kevin Brown
Jon Lieber

Thats pretty weak

The Icon of Elisim 02-14-2004 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Plus. Soriano makes nothing compared to A-Rod so the Rangers may be actively now in the pitching market... if there's anything worth while left that is.

Greg Maddux is still available.

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Plus. Soriano makes nothing compared to A-Rod so the Rangers may be actively now in the pitching market... if there's anything worth while left that is.

No, actually what I've heard on ESPN and read is that the Rangers are going with there home grown talent and not pusuing anybody. I guess there trying to develop their young arms to get then used to pitching in Texas, which is a hitters park.

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim
Greg Maddux is still available.

Maddux won't pitch in the A.L.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-14-2004 07:23 PM

ARod's numbers are better then Soranio, but Soranio was also an all star last year so its not A-Rod is going to a HUGE change in their offensive output, it will def get better but we'll see what happens.

I'm hoping their chemisty is horrible and their pitching staff does bad.

YOUR Hero 02-14-2004 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34
Soranio was also an all star last year so its not A-Rod is going to a HUGE change in their offensive output,

Yeah exactly

Sensei Of Mattitude 02-14-2004 07:51 PM

Giambi is trash ever since he came from Oakland. He was THE SHIT in Oak-town but ever since he sold out to the Corporation he hasnt been the same. He's always injured, can't play the field (isn't that the reason NY is going after Travis Lee, who is amazing in the field?) and does anyone remember his POSTSEASON SLUMP LAST YEAR and being DEMOTED to hit 7th in the lineup against Florida?

Thome is King. Nuff Said, maybe he can cut down the Ks but Thome is King.

Sensei Of Mattitude 02-14-2004 08:03 PM

I don't know if the chemistry on the Yankees will be good enough to win. As everyone saw last year the Marlins had the chemistry. The speed guys, the power guys and the complements. The Yankees are nothing but power power power. What are they going to do, swing for the fence every at bat? What about egos? How will Giambi react if A-Rod is racking up HRs when he isn't or vice versa or a different pair of players? Plus then you have Steinbrenner ready to pull the plug on any and everyone.

How to do win a Championship? With pitching... something the Yankees really don't have. Jose and Lieber.... are question marks, big time. Mussina, and Vazquez are good and Brown is still good for 39. But they don't have any LEFTHANDERS! What about that short Right Field Wall at Yankee Stadium? With nothing but righthanded pitchers in the rotation, if you get a Bonds or Thome in for a series, WATCH OUT!

Top 3 Favorites in National League (In No Particular Order)
Philadelphia Phillies
Chicago Cubs
Houston Astros

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Anaheim Angels
Boston Red Sox
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Should be a really exciting season.

Loose Cannon 02-14-2004 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Of Mattitude
How to do win a Championship? With pitching.

Well if that were the case, Oakland would of won the championship the last three seasons.

Nice way to run the bases guys. LOL

Yashamaga 02-14-2004 11:34 PM

holy shit

stop up-talking the phillies/thome.

they're not in the top 3 favorites in the NL, they're probably not even in the top 10. They didn't even make the playoffs last year. ass.

The Miz 02-14-2004 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Well if that were the case, Oakland would of won the championship the last three seasons.

Nice way to run the bases guys. LOL

LOL classic. almost as good as jorge's clutch hit in the 9th.

oh wait.

mitch_h 02-14-2004 11:43 PM

Why are they talking about playing A-Rod at third... I mean he's a gold glover. If I was a pitcher I would want A-Rod playing short.

BCWWF 02-15-2004 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Of Mattitude
IWith nothing but righthanded pitchers in the rotation, if you get a Bonds or Thome in for a series, WATCH OUT!

Yeah, since Bonds and Thome will be in Yankee Stadium so often right?

Splaya 02-15-2004 01:17 AM

The deal is done. They are waiting for the players union to approve of it. I was just going across Yahoo sports and front page...Report: A-Rod heading to Bronx in blockbuster deal

Rodriguez apparently could be leaving Texas afterall. (AP) The Yankees and Rangers have an agreement in principle on a monster trade that will send shortstop Alex Rodriguez to New York in exchange for Alfonso Soriano, Newsday is reporting. Rodriguez, the AL MVP, would be moved from shortstop to third base by New York. Derek Jeter, the Yankees' captain, would remain at shortstop.


I was like what the flying ****. This is so sick it is unbelievable. I still think the Tigers are the team that did the most to try to better their team, but the Yankees are right behind them.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-15-2004 01:39 AM

Detriot?

Yankees got A-Rod + Sheff

Shit even the Red Sox got better players this offense season, they got Kurt Schilling remember..that is more impressive then what the Tigers have done

BCWWF 02-15-2004 02:23 AM

Add to that Brown and Vasquez

Splaya 02-15-2004 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
Detriot?

Yankees got A-Rod + Sheff

Shit even the Red Sox got better players this offense season, they got Kurt Schilling remember..that is more impressive then what the Tigers have done


5 bucks and my left nut says the tigers win the ALCS this year and make it to the world series.


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