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Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2006 02:24 PM

Anybody else lovin' Eugene right now?
 
I know I am. He's way better as the retard who feels people owe him stuff than the retard who loves Jim Duggan. I hope they actually let this play out and don't forget about him.

What do you think?

Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2006 02:45 PM

SOMEBODY DISCUSSS EUGENE WITH ME RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!

Fignuts 12-09-2006 02:45 PM

One of the few reasons I watch raw, lately.

Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2006 02:50 PM

I just really, really, really hope they let this ride out. That, and I hope they let Ken Doane join Rated RKO.

Gertner 12-09-2006 02:52 PM

i love it. Pair him with Bob Backlund! it'd be gold!

PullMyFinger 12-09-2006 02:56 PM

LOL Eugene in Rated RKO. LOL LOL Priceless.

Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2006 02:58 PM

I like the character because it reminds me of this retarded kid I used to know in like 3rd grade who was a mean asshole. I wanted to punch him, but he was too retarded.

Fignuts 12-09-2006 03:04 PM

I think in a recent ross report or something, he teased that eugene is a much better wretler than anyone inmagined.

Which implies they're gonna let dinsmore really cut loose in the ring. Which I've been waiting for since his debut.

Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2006 03:07 PM

Is the Ross Report written in kayfabe?

Fignuts 12-09-2006 03:26 PM

Mostly.

Xero 12-09-2006 04:32 PM

I can't wait until they start chanting "Retard" at him.

Crippla 12-09-2006 04:49 PM

This is actually a good way to get him away from the gimmick slowly tbh.

Destor 12-09-2006 05:32 PM

Lovin' Eugene. But I always have (save the Duggan run.) It's been fun stuff.

D Mac 12-09-2006 05:39 PM

Yeah surprised there have'nt been protests from handicapped organizations.

Londoner 12-09-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
LOL Eugene in Rated RKO. LOL LOL Priceless.


Then it would become 'Rated- Retard RKO'.

MLW 12-09-2006 06:05 PM

He kind of reminds me of mankind...I think he did the dont make fun of me thing once or twice :p

And I agree with u guys...he is way cooler know :lol: Eugene cool

Fignuts 12-09-2006 06:20 PM

Good one, TL.

Testicle 12-09-2006 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
it reminds me of this retarded kid I used to know in like 3rd grade who was a mean asshole. I wanted to punch him


I'll see you in hell....


:|

jindrak 12-09-2006 06:50 PM

The writers can play up on lifelong feelings of unbelonging and rejection with the Eugene character.

I remember when Eugene was called out and humiliated by Coach on Raw, and then the Rock came out to Eugene's rescue. THAT was a classic Raw moment. Same segment where Eugene admitted that HHH was his favorite wrestler.

Anyways, I think people can relate to the Eugene character with regards to feelings of unbelonging while wanting to belong. If nothing else, it adds charater depth.

ClockShot 12-09-2006 07:30 PM

I'm waiting for someone to knock him out cold with a nasty chairshot, and have him wake up acting all normal.

Crippla 12-09-2006 07:36 PM

I love this because it brings something interesting to his character which was getting really old tbh.

Kane Knight 12-09-2006 07:44 PM

I don't really care...Well, except to pity Nick.

D Mac 12-09-2006 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot
I'm waiting for someone to knock him out cold with a nasty chairshot, and have him wake up acting all normal.

They need to do this sooner then later.

Mr. Nerfect 12-09-2006 08:02 PM

I love Nick Dinsmore, but even as a heel, I just can't get into the whole Eugene thing. Here's what I'd do:

Next week, Val Venis enters Coach's office, and tells Coach to fire Eugene. Have Venis look like he's taking pity on Eugene, and have him plead with Coach, because the business is really getting to this kid's head. Coach asks Venis who he thinks he is, he ain't the Chief of Staff, anymore. He tells Venis that he will give Venis a chance to retire Eugene, but only if he defeats him in a Loser Leaves RAW Match. Coach points out that Venis' win-loss record isn't too great, so he has to show what he can offer RAW, or else he will be cut in place of Eugene.

Val Venis and Eugene wrestle what would be a decent match, maybe have a few "Holy shit!" spots, just to make it seem like a more important match. I don't know, maybe a Fisherman Superplex? The referee is eventually knocked down, and Eugene gets a steel chair. He goes to hit Venis, but Val dodges, and the chair bounces off the top rope, and catches Eugene in the head. Venis then KILLS Eugene with a chair shot, and positions him for The Money Shot. Venis connects, and pins Eugene, retiring the character once and for all.

I know, I know. The chances Val Venis will ever win a match on RAW are slim-to-none, but they've set up a feud between the two, and the guy deserves a solid run in the mid-card, at the very least. Nick Dinsmore can return a little later as Nick Dinsmore, and actually wrestle, while Venis can maybe win the Intercontinental Championship from Shelton Benjamin (who I see taking it from Jeff Hardy in the very near-future, to set up WGTT vs. Hardys feud).

Tb1 12-09-2006 08:43 PM

I think he should come out next week, cut a promo.

"I'VE BEEN FAKING IT!"

Blitz 12-09-2006 08:45 PM

Not especially.

Tb1 12-09-2006 08:47 PM

Bad idea then? I think that would rule, but I've had some pretty aweful ideas before.

Blitz 12-09-2006 08:59 PM

No no, I was answering the question in the topic.

I'd love to see Dinsmore renounce the gimmick.

Rammsteinmad 12-09-2006 09:02 PM

That idea woulda been awesome at One Night Stand.

Crippla 12-09-2006 09:04 PM

Like I said, I like this because it brings something new to a gimmick that has gotten old but I also like it because I think this is a step in slowly bringing him away from the gimmick somehow.

Mr. Nerfect 12-09-2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad
That idea woulda been awesome at One Night Stand.

When I heard his music play, I was like "Fuck yes! He's going to shoot on the WWE, and how their stupid-ass gimmick drove him to drug-use, and now he's going to join ECW and provide us with some good wrestling!". Then he played the retard and I died a little inside. :(

I understand how people can see how this is going to be a slow-burn away from the retard character, but even then, you're still going to end up with the stupid-ass name of "Eugene" for him. Why not just have him disappear one week, and come back the next head-shaved, and actually wrestling. That'd be pretty sweet, wouldn't it?

The Optimist 12-09-2006 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alienoid06
When I heard his music play, I was like "Fuck yes! He's going to shoot on the WWE, and how their stupid-ass gimmick drove him to drug-use, and now he's going to join ECW and provide us with some good wrestling!". Then he played the retard and I died a little inside. :(

I understand how people can see how this is going to be a slow-burn away from the retard character, but even then, you're still going to end up with the stupid-ass name of "Eugene" for him. Why not just have him disappear one week, and come back the next head-shaved, and actually wrestling. That'd be pretty sweet, wouldn't it?

Sweet enough and the WWE has screwed with characters that people actually care about worse.

Fox 12-10-2006 12:28 AM

They should have pulled the trigger on this a long, long time ago, and done it in a much more "extreme" way, where Nick Dinsmore reveals that "Eugene" was a character all along, and he's not retarded at all.

With the way they've done his turn, Eugene is more interesting as a heel, but the fact of the matter is he's still a retard, and he'll still have to play a retard for years to come.

TerranRich 12-10-2006 01:19 AM

Rated Tard-K-O

Corkscrewed 12-10-2006 08:01 AM

Ratarded KO.

Gertner 12-10-2006 10:38 AM

jesus christ, get off the "Nick Dinsmore" thing. Like I said, the only people that will care about Nick Dinsmore will be a few people on the net. It'd be the equivilant of Val Venis changing back to Chief Morley. Remember how nobody cared about Gunner Scott. Same thing.

Dorkchop 12-10-2006 10:45 AM

Are we supposed to boo a retard?

Avenger 12-10-2006 12:30 PM

yes

Avenger 12-10-2006 12:31 PM

Also any angle that involves Val Venis/Eugene and an eventual name change to Nick Dinsmore that sees Nick become the same bland wrestler that Gunner Scott was (which is a very good wrestler but one that won't pull ratings) will NOT be bought by the WWE fans.

Gertner 12-10-2006 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avenger
Also any angle that involves Val Venis/Eugene and an eventual name change to Nick Dinsmore that sees Nick become the same bland wrestler that Gunner Scott was (which is a very good wrestler but one that won't pull ratings) will NOT be bought by the WWE fans.

thank you


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