What (non-Ipod) MP3 Player should I get?
 

Wasn't sure where to put this, so move it if need be.

I won't get into it, but my old 30GB creative nomad died on me today because of a firmware upgrade and I need a new MP3 player for under $200 (preferably under $150) that plays Napster tracks (hence why I can't use an IPod). I'd like a generous amount of space, 10gb being the minimum, and one that isn't all-around shit (as this one was). Does anyone have any suggestions?

get tunebite

Creative is asskicking.

Iriver

NO! Iriver = gay

I know a few people with different generation Iriver players and they are fine.
I've got an Iaudio, it's great, recommend them as well, but seem kinda hard to find these days.

That new Microsoft one, Zune or whatever, looks shitty.

I'd buy a Zune if they had a 80 GB model.

Do not buy a Zune. It could have been good but they sucked it up. They put Wi-Fi in it but all you can do is "squirt" a song to another Zune in which the "3 days or 3 plays" comes into effect. Then it stops working. Not to mention all the digital rights crap that goes on with it.

http://us.creative.com/products/welcomeus213.html

Dont know if that'll help

Yeah, I'm considering (and will probably wind up with) a Creative, even though this last one left a sour taste in my mouth.

Keep the suggestions coming on specific models though.

Besides Napster compatabilit, what are some pros and cons for you? Do you want video? Large storage? size a factor?

I know few people who have had problems with their creative MP3 players.

My last player was a Creative Zen 20GB, and I never had a problem. I bought an 80GB iPod, and it's been even better. And yeah, use Tunebite. It lets you rerecord protected songs into unprotected MP3s.

BTW if you want video the Zen Vision M has better quality than an Ipod video

What is tunebite, and does it work with all protected audio?

I really don't care about video, but ease of navigation and storage (10GB+) are my main needs. Don't really care about size.

As for Tunebite, it re-records your music into another format through your sound card I believe. You lose quality that way, though, so only an actual stripping of DRM would be worth it in my opinion.

correct, it does it automatically our you go through tune bite and it'll play the song at like 4x speed and record

If there is a loss of quality, that's a pretty poor way to run a railroad.

Gonna wait a few weeks on a real MP3 player but I'm going to get a temporary one today. 128MB Coby. Was going to get something like that anyway strictly for podcasts so it works out. And it's only $20...

But yeah, any other suggestions would be cool.

I've only used Tunebite once, but I didn't notice any lose of quality.

This probably won't help but I've read a few times recently that a lot of Taiwanese (etc) companies are now making a wide range of incredibly cheap players that are pretty much as good as anything the biggies are making and a fraction of the cost:-\

iRiver

personal tape recorder