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starfox8500 02-20-2007 01:15 PM

Bad Heel turns
 
Me and my friends were talking and we remembered the article that had the storyline writer sa he forgot about Hass's Heel turn on Miss Jackie and Dawn and the next week had him team with Holly. Then we laughed because tha night Heel Eugene took the role of a face facing Kahli. Then to top it off, Divari acted face like in his match against Helms.

what I'm getting at is, how wany forgtable heel turns have them been/ most memorable to you?

Loose Cannon 02-20-2007 01:30 PM

Goldberg and Sting were terrible.

Jeritron 02-20-2007 01:34 PM

I thought the Rock's last heel turn sucked

Jeritron 02-20-2007 01:37 PM

Jericho plays the heel nicely, but it was shitty timing and he was poorly booked and it really damaged the wave he was riding (late 01).


Road Doggs heel turn with DX in late 99 was a joke. All the rest could get over as heels, and he was just in limbo. A heel who still relied off crowd involvement. They loved him but they weren't allowed to, and he had to play heel. Killed his career.

Stickman 02-20-2007 02:00 PM

Goldberg. Bret in WCW. Didn't Eugene turn heel?

M-A-G 02-20-2007 02:38 PM

Austin

Nark Order 02-20-2007 02:47 PM

Foley turning heel on Tommy Dreamer last year was a bit WTF for me.

El Fangel 02-20-2007 02:51 PM

The Rocks heel turns in general seemed to always be bad, not from a wrestling stand-point because he was good enough to make an awesome heel, but the fact that no matter what fans would cheer him because he is known as the super-face of WWE.

jindrak 02-20-2007 02:57 PM

Austin- WM17

Triple H- WM15; It took months for him to catch on as a heel. Wasn't until the Steph marriage angle that he finally found his niche as a heel.

Benjamin- No reason to turn him because he was tremendously over as a face. Best example is his reaction and position on the card on Taboo Tuesday 2006 versis Taboo Tuesday 2005. Major drop.

Tombstone275 02-20-2007 03:38 PM

Triple H aaaaaaaaaannd Vince McMahon

Russenmafia 02-20-2007 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeritron5000
I thought the Rock's last heel turn sucked

it didn't totally suck, the first Rock Concert was excellent.

Worst heel turn was Goldberg. Totally pointless.

Rammsteinmad 02-20-2007 04:45 PM

Agreed. Definitly Goldberg.

Corkscrewed 02-20-2007 05:43 PM

Rock's promo in Toronto was hilarious too. "Oh he said the name of our city!!! Yaya!!!! I live here!!! Oh yay!!! I'm so happy!!! SHUT UP!!!"

Tombstone275 02-20-2007 06:26 PM

The current Edge heel turn is pretty pointless

Russenmafia 02-20-2007 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed
Rock's promo in Toronto was hilarious too. "Oh he said the name of our city!!! Yaya!!!! I live here!!! Oh yay!!! I'm so happy!!! SHUT UP!!!"

lol, that bit always cracked me up. Well remembered.

PullMyFinger 02-20-2007 10:14 PM

Sting, Goldberg, and Austin. These heel turns were horrible and never picked off.

However, there is one heel turn that is the WORST of all time...and it's....drum roll please..............





Steve Blackman's heel turn. The fans didn't even notice. I didn't even notice either...till I read it up on Rajah.

The Genius 02-20-2007 10:29 PM

batistas heel turn last sunday.

The Optimist 02-20-2007 11:15 PM

Wow. I don't ever remember a Goldberg heel turn and I watched WCW until the end. I guess it was SO stupid that it didn't even register.

addy2hotty 02-20-2007 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed
Rock's promo in Toronto was hilarious too. "Oh he said the name of our city!!! Yaya!!!! I live here!!! Oh yay!!! I'm so happy!!! SHUT UP!!!"

Add to that when Rock was talking about his match when Goldberg debuted.

'You want to see The Rock vs Goldberg, in the biggest match of all time, no bigger match ever, Rock/Goldberg at Backlash.....

Nahhhhh!'

Had me in stiches. I only appreciate him now he's gone.

Shadow 02-21-2007 12:40 AM

Jeff Hardy's heel turn.

Don't remember it? That's not the pot talking, it lasted for one match.

El Fangel 02-21-2007 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone275
The current Edge heel turn is pretty pointless

Edge is a heel:?:

Linkbowler 02-21-2007 01:33 AM

Tazz being the heel announcer, thus against the ECW originals.

Dubble yoo. Tee. Eff.

94 SVT Cobra 02-21-2007 10:09 AM

I dont think ANYTHING really compares to how bad austins heel turn was at 17....it sucked more then any heel turn ever, and yes, i DID see the goldberg heel turn. bad, but not as much

yea, im back.

Xero 02-21-2007 10:14 AM

VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Jura 02-21-2007 10:15 AM

Tried to turn on my heel the other day but lost my balance and fell. Pretty bad heel turn right there.

Dave Youell 02-21-2007 10:36 AM

Austin to me was the most high profile dissaster as no one knew what the hell was going on, it ruined a perfectly good main event. And took 1 week to explain after.

Goldberg's was desperation on WCW's part

Nowhere Man 02-21-2007 12:29 PM

Bet no one remembers when Rey Mysterio Jr. turned heel in 2000. I wish I didn't.

Or Hacksaw Jim Duggan joining Team Canada. That one was pretty lame as well.

starfox8500 02-21-2007 12:34 PM

Ok wasn't in to wrestling/old enough to remember Goldberg's heel turn. What happened please?

The Show Off 02-21-2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Bet no one remembers when Rey Mysterio Jr. turned heel in 2000. I wish I didn't.

Or Hacksaw Jim Duggan joining Team Canada. That one was pretty lame as well.

I thought Duggan joined "The Revolution" not Lance Storm's Canadian stable. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Loose Cannon 02-21-2007 12:54 PM

yea, it was Team Canada.

The Optimist 02-22-2007 02:45 AM

Yeah, so did the late Mike Awesome if you can believe that.


Sting's heel turn was completely ass-backwards yet probably merited from a wrestling point of view. Wasn't sold well enough to make any sense.

The Dominic angle was probably the worst way to turn Eddie at the time, since Eddie could play a heel like no one's buisness. The whole angle just reeked of shit.

I went a bit WTF when Foley screwed over ECW last year, but the fans were the main problem there not Foley.

Edge as a heel right now, for the record, is just lack luster and not very interesting. If "Rated R" was on anyone else they'd allready have lost all the push they have/had.

Rick Stiener's turn after the Finger Poke was pretty shitty. It basically consisted of him doing the same things he did as a face, but with his brother, some sunglasses, and a NWO wolfpac shirt.

Outsider 02-22-2007 06:44 AM

The Godberg heel turn was when Vince Russo was still on WCW TV (I think). Anyway, there was a PPV coming up and Russo kept saying how something big was gonna go down and how it would be the biggest thing in wrestling history etc.

The whole internet new it would just be a Goldberg heel turn but they kept plugging away with the whole 'biggest thing in wrestling history' stuff, anyway, he came out and speared whoever the face who was main eventing was, it was shit.

Dave Youell 02-22-2007 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider
The Godberg heel turn was when Vince Russo was still on WCW TV (I think). Anyway, there was a PPV coming up and Russo kept saying how something big was gonna go down and how it would be the biggest thing in wrestling history etc.

The whole internet new it would just be a Goldberg heel turn but they kept plugging away with the whole 'biggest thing in wrestling history' stuff, anyway, he came out and speared whoever the face who was main eventing was, it was shit.

Dude it was Nash, thought you would of remembered that!

Outsider 02-22-2007 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell
Dude it was Nash, thought you would of remembered that!

Some plotlines of WCW I try my best to forget....

Gertner 02-22-2007 12:28 PM

the godfather's


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