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Mr. JL 02-22-2007 11:33 PM

WWE Wrestlers who you think could 'MAKE IT' in ROH
 
I don't know, bored and I thought of this thread. Alright, name any current WWE wrestlers who you think could 'make it' and get over with the smarky ROH fans.

Ignore the obvious ones like Paul London, Brian Kendrick, CM Punk, Jamie Noble and Jimmy Wang Yang who have already wrestled there time and time again, and proven their worth to the ROH fans countless times.

So name whoever and state why you think they would make it in Ring of Honor and we can comment whether we agree or disagree with your pick(s).

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I'll go first and get the VERY obvious one off the list.

CHRIS BENOIT

He would be treated like an absolute God if he ever showed up to wrestle at an ROH event. The countless great matches he's produced in Japan, ECW, WCW, WWF and WWE alone pretty much guarentees that Chris Benoit could 'do no wrong' in the eyes of ROH fans. Add on to the fact that the man can still 'go' and is THE best technical wrestler in the world today. There would be no reason in the world why Benoit would not 'make it' in ROH.

Skippord 02-22-2007 11:34 PM

RVD

Jeritron 02-22-2007 11:34 PM

would they have their existing recognition?

Jeritron 02-22-2007 11:35 PM

Edge

The One 02-22-2007 11:38 PM

Sylvan

Mr. JL 02-22-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeritron5000
would they have their existing recognition?

They don't have to hold onto their WWE gimmick and the straight forward WWE style of wrestling if that is what you mean.

Jeritron 02-22-2007 11:40 PM

Nah, I meant are we saying this as tho they never wrestled on WWE television, or in this scenario do they retain they're recognition.

For instance, if Angle debuted in there and they knew nothing about him, he'd have to get over. However from what they know about him in WWE, they'd mark out like schoolgirls before he ever set foot in the ring.

Mr. JL 02-22-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
Sylvan

Okay, I can totally understand Rob Van Dam and Edge being included on the list because they can produce great matches when they want, but nothing I have seen from Sylvan would make me think that he could 'make it'. I've never seen any indy work of his and he seems to be the typical got a good build and look, but no substance WWE sports entertainer quality type wrestler.

Mr. JL 02-22-2007 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jeritron5000
Nah, I meant are we saying this as tho they never wrestled on WWE television, or in this scenario do they retain they're recognition.

For instance, if Angle debuted in there and they knew nothing about him, he'd have to get over. However from what they know about him in WWE, they'd mark out like schoolgirls before he ever set foot in the ring.

I didn't think about it that way, but lets say that they would retain their recognition.

Jeritron 02-22-2007 11:44 PM

I think Edge would be huge their, not only because he's a great wrestler as it is, and not only because he'd have insentive to let loose more often. But also because of his tremendous persona and mic skills, plus in WWE hes a medium size guy, in ROH he'd be their HHH.

The One 02-22-2007 11:49 PM

I think Sylvan is a great talent. He could be big if he was treated right.

Obviously, Flair, Michaels, Hunter, and JBL would be beyond over anywhere...

Mr. JL 02-22-2007 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeritron5000
I think Edge would be huge their, not only because he's a great wrestler as it is, and not only because he'd have insentive to let loose more often. But also because of his tremendous persona and mic skills, plus in WWE hes a medium size guy, in ROH he'd be their HHH.



Yeah, I completely agree. I think Edge would absolutely tear it up in ROH too. There would definitely be some great match oppertunities/feuds there between a lot of the top guys there.

Jeritron 02-22-2007 11:54 PM

Edge is a guy who will never have to worry about having a job as long as he wrestles. Theres always a place for a guy like him. I don't think enough can be said about how much he really can deliver in a match or a promo or a fued if the WWE would consistently allowed him to. He has all the potential to be a long standing main eventer and top heel.

But yea, back to the convo...

Mr. JL 02-22-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
I think Sylvan is a great talent. He could be big if he was treated right.

Obviously, Flair, Michaels, Hunter, and JBL would be beyond over anywhere...

You have got absolutely no arguments from me with Flair, Michaels and a hard working HHH.

However, there is no way JBL would make it in Ring of Honor. I think the fans would probably boycott the event if JBL was even advertised or JBL would manage to get aboslutely shit on worse than what occured with Jeff Hardy's ROH debut. Don't get me wrong, I think JBL is awesome on the mic and solid in the ring with the right opponents, but ROH fans wouldn't even give him the time of day.

Jeritron 02-22-2007 11:57 PM

Mr. JL, what happened with Jeff Hardy's debut? I have seen ROH but I don't regularly follow it and I was probably away from wrestling when this happened.

The One 02-23-2007 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. JL
You have got absolutely no arguments from me with Flair, Michaels and a hard working HHH.

However, there is no way JBL would make it in Ring of Honor. I think the fans would probably boycott the event if JBL was even advertised or JBL would manage to get aboslutely shit on worse than what occured with Jeff Hardy's ROH debut. Don't get me wrong, I think JBL is awesome on the mic and solid in the ring with the right opponents, but ROH fans wouldn't even give him the time of day.

uh, JBL is a Wrestling...GOD. Obviously wrestling fans should be able to enjoy it.

Jeritron 02-23-2007 12:03 AM

yea I never could dig JBL in the ring, but it absolutely didn't matter. I got to like his character and promos so much that he became extremely entertaining to me. And thats what it's all about. JBL is entertaining.

Big thumbs up to JBL.

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jeritron5000
Mr. JL, what happened with Jeff Hardy's debut? I have seen ROH but I don't regularly follow it and I was probably away from wrestling when this happened.

Before Jeff even came out from behind the curtain the fans were chanting "Hardy sucks!" Then to top it off Jeff came out as his 'Willow of the Wisp' charcter he created when he was a backyard wrestler. He was under a mask for his entrance and dancing like he was having the worst seizure of his life. And to top it all off he botched even the most basic moves, as well as some of his tradmark moves. The fans shat all over him and it was pretty embarassing.

Jeritron 02-23-2007 12:07 AM

jesus. now that you mention it I actually knew about that, for whatever reason I didn't remember it

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 12:08 AM

Oh, and they were also chanting "Go Get Help" in reference to his rumoured drug problems at the time and there were a fair amount of "We Want Matt" chants too.

Jeritron 02-23-2007 12:09 AM

Jeff was such a mess after 2002.

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The One
uh, JBL is a Wrestling...GOD. Obviously wrestling fans should be able to enjoy it.

Well, now that I think of it he would make a killer heel antagonist. I still think anything long term is completely out of the question though. However a short term, one-off feud would probably be the best bet. If you had him cut a promo on the ROH fans, ROH product and then build a feud between him and a ROH regular you'd have a sweet program. Although, JBL would have to lose the match.

But there is no way JBL could last in roh long term, IMO.

redoneja 02-23-2007 12:26 AM

Gregory Helms
Val Venis
Trevor Murdoch, for some strange reason

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 12:56 AM

Yeah, Gregory Helms and Val Venis are definitly two guys in particular that I was thinking about when I made the thread.

lort 02-23-2007 06:38 AM

William Regal easily.

Dave Youell 02-23-2007 07:33 AM

Nick Dinesmore (oh however it's spelt) would be fucking awesome

The Fugitive 02-23-2007 09:23 AM

I want to say Nunzio but I'm fairly sure he's had a run in ROH.

Fignuts 02-23-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lort
William Regal easily.


Dave Youell 02-23-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fugitive
I want to say Nunzio but I'm fairly sure he's had a run in ROH.

Yeah he has, he was good too.

I also vote for Randy Orton, kid could put Paul London to shame with his dropsault

tucsonspeed6 02-23-2007 11:01 AM

This is easy. After WWE buys them out, ALL of the wwe guys will make it. If you don't like it, the wwe will alienate you until a new audience who does takes your place.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-23-2007 11:57 AM

Orton would not make it.
Flair would cause people to go nuts for an appearance, but wouldn't get over wrestling.
Edge, Carlito, Shelton, HBK, Kenny, and a decent amount of the young talent could, in theory, get over.

Innovator 02-23-2007 12:41 PM

Shelton, no matter how bad on the mic he is he'd still be better on it than Roderick

The old school guys like Regal and Benoit would be welcomed with 200000000 streamers

Gregory Helms and Val would work, I actually want to see Helms interact with Delirious for some reason...

Edge would be good for a weekend, kinda like what Christian did.

I would die happy seeing Benoit vs. American Dragon

that or Dean Malenko vs. Homicide

Stickman 02-23-2007 12:48 PM

Why would they go from WWE to ROH?

What Would Kevin Do? 02-23-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman
Why would they go from WWE to ROH?

WWE releases them, and they go to ROH, or make a one or 2 time appearance, ala Lance Storm, Christian, etc.

Mr. Monday Morning 02-23-2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
Orton would not make it.
Flair would cause people to go nuts for an appearance, but wouldn't get over wrestling.
Edge, Carlito, Shelton, HBK, Kenny, and a decent amount of the young talent could, in theory, get over.

Carlito sucks.

In theory MNM vs the Briscoes would be quite the tag team feud.

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 04:13 PM

Yeah, given the reaction Randy Orton got at ECW One Night Stand and the simularities that exist between ECW and ROH fans, its a safe bet that Randy Orton wouldn't make it in ROH.

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
Shelton, no matter how bad on the mic he is he'd still be better on it than Roderick

The old school guys like Regal and Benoit would be welcomed with 200000000 streamers

Gregory Helms and Val would work, I actually want to see Helms interact with Delirious for some reason...

Edge would be good for a weekend, kinda like what Christian did.

I would die happy seeing Benoit vs. American Dragon

that or Dean Malenko vs. Homicide

I know Helms wouldn't be able to use his Hurricane gimmick but hypothetically if he could, I bet he and Delirious would probably make one hell of an interesting team that could play really well off one another.

Jeritron 02-23-2007 04:19 PM

Jericho

FBI mark 02-23-2007 05:44 PM

James 'Little Guido/Nunzio' Maritato would be great in ROH. That Pure Wrestling Championship of theirs is custom made for him. In fact I have been hoping Maritato would go to ROH for sometime as the WWE is doing nothing with him, and it pissed me off when they fired Tony Mamaluke!

Mr. JL 02-23-2007 05:45 PM

Chris Jericho is one of those guys who would EASILY make it in Ring of Honor. Like Inovator said, 2000000000 streamers


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