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BigDaddyCool 04-03-2007 01:45 PM

What makes a good title run?
 
What are the factors in making a good title run? I figure it includes if the champion is deserving of said title, who it was won from, who it is defended against, who it is eventually lost too, and how long they title run/riegn is for.

Discuss.

Loose Cannon 04-03-2007 02:08 PM

For me a good Title run includes:

A great storyline(s) behind it
Good workers involved (wrestling wise, promo wise, excitement wise)
Not having the Same Matches Over and Over and Over and Over again (which is why I hate pretty much all Title runs these days)

Simple as that

I saw a post about Glass Ceilings today in another thread with Cena, Bats and Lashley. I think the One touched on it. I really don't mind Glass Ceilings. Hell, I enjoyed Hogans run for years.

The Main reason why I enjoyed it because there were different stories everytime and he didn't work with his opponent all the time. These days you'll see Cena fight his opponent at the PPV in some tag match a week before the PPV. It makes the PPV match less valuable with each time you put the Title Holder and Challenger in the same match before the PPV. You didn't see Hogan wrestling Andre before Mania. They did angles and shot promos to lead up to it. You didn't see Bret wrestle Shawn before Survivor Series 97.

Slaughter/Hogan was not a great match at all, but I REALLY wanted to see it come Mania 7. The story leading up really made it feel like a big match. Just as an example.

I mean we saw Lashley vs Umaga right before Mania, at Mania and then last night. WTF?

WWE does not know how to create a "payoff" anymore. That's lost with them.

BigDaddyCool 04-03-2007 02:16 PM

I think the thing about glass ceilings with titles is that if everyone that could be considered to be a champion became champion then it wouldn't mean quite so much. Another thing that adds to a title, is the list of people never held it, especially if that list includes people that really should have.

Alls I'm sayin' is that climbing a steep mountian is way more meaningful than climbing a plateau or mesa.

Stickman 04-03-2007 02:23 PM

Character development, storylines, and excellence of execution.

BigDaddyCool 04-03-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman
Character development, storylines, and excellence of execution.

No, no Bret Hart, he sucks.

Rammsteinmad 04-03-2007 02:44 PM

Chris Benoit.

Stickman 04-03-2007 03:00 PM

I wasn't talking Bret Hart, they just need to excellently execute the Character development, storyline, and wrestling.

BigDaddyCool 04-03-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad
Chris Benoit.

Chris Benoit is a boringer version of Bret.

Stickman 04-03-2007 04:04 PM

haha, "boringer"

Xero 04-03-2007 04:11 PM

BDC was too cool for school.

El Fangel 04-03-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Chris Benoit is a boringer version of Bret.

BDC - Respect Rating Prepost- 90%
PostPost - 20%

BigDaddyCool 04-03-2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
BDC - Respect Rating Prepost- 90%
PostPost - 20%

Not my fault that they are both about as exicting as tin foil.

addy2hotty 04-03-2007 07:08 PM

BDC, can you give your impressions of the following wrestlers please.

John Cena
The Great Khali
Mar Cus Cor v On

BigDaddyCool 04-03-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addy2hotty
BDC, can you give your impressions of the following wrestlers please.

John Cena
The Great Khali
Mar Cus Cor v On

When you say impressions, do you mean how I feel about them or act like them? I'm assuming how I feel, and that is how I'll answer.

John Cena: He is ok...not great. He was better a few years ago.
Khali: sucks
Marcu Cor Von: Never seen him outside of the 3 minutes in WM in WWE. But in TNA he was retarded.

lort 04-03-2007 07:17 PM

Just passion really. The person holding the belt needs to show he cares about having/keeping the belt. The people chasing the belt too really need to show they care about getting it off the champ.

The people need to care what they are doing in the ring, care about entertainment, care about their reaction from the crowd (it annoys me that you keep on hearing from the WWE that it doesn't matter that Cena/Batista get bad reactions - they should care crowd reaction is one of the fundamentals of the industry). You can have the stupidest storyline in the world but if the people really sell it out of the ring and in the matches, it'll work.

The minute people at the top start phoning in promos and matches is the moment they should be dropped - they will soon find their passion for the job again when they aren't on TV as much or their merchandise is not selling.

Arnold HamNegger 04-03-2007 07:50 PM

Honestly, at this point I'm dying for a heel to have a significant title run. I'm talking long term, not just for one to two PPV's. It's hard to have convincing psychology to a match or make ANY heel credible in a storyline with Cena if the heel never wins. Even when Edge was champ, Cena was ALWAYS booked to have the upper hand. Hell, the 2nd title run made Edge look like a joke. There has always been an excuse or stipulation to why Cena lost. Godforbid he lose cleanly. When the hell was the last time Cena was pinned clean? I'm talking Tag match or singles without any interference or some bullshit happening that allowed someone to get the pin. (Edge cashing in on MITB to win the title doesn't count either.)

St. Jimmy 04-03-2007 11:07 PM

TRIPLE TIER CAGE.

Theo Dious 04-04-2007 10:12 AM

TRI-PLE TIER-CAGE! *CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP* TRI-PLE TIER-CAGE! *CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP* TRI-PLE TIER-CAGE!
*CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP*


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