ROH get a PPV deal
 

Significant enough for it's own thread methinks.

ROH on PPV. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idgzsd6tjUU

So when exactly is the "ROH is/isn't ECW" fight going to break out?

This is great news for wrestling.

Nice.

:y:

*marks out*

Whenever some retard who doesn't know what he's talking about wants to start it

Well, there goes TNAs ratings.
Maybe some of WWEs too, depending on what day RoH is on.

There will only be 6 PPVs a year, it's not a TV deal

Until they see the huge buy rates.

Exactly, it's not going to happen.

lets not get ahead of ourselves here

Holy fucking shit!

YESSSSSSSSS!

I now understand why Joe and Daniels have left them

SAWEET!

FUCK

YES

Great news, but I'm trying to see what negatives this would have.

Only thing I can think of right now is you can say goodbye to the current theme musics, unless there's someway they can get around that.

<font color=white>Please.

:roll:</font>

I look at the people saying this is a good thing and these people think they know wrestling.

:lol:

You want the negatives?

1 - Already a stupid amount of wrestling shows on PPV already. WWE does something like 16. TNA does 12. UFC are doing a minimum of 12 and don't anyone even come out with they aren't competition because WWE gives a shit who UFC are and don't care who ROH are. As soon as somebody is trying to get you to buy their monthly show, it's competition.

2 - ROH is built on DVD sales. Those sales are doing down now. Fact! People won't buy DVDs and PPVs of the same show when they roughly come out at the same time.

3 - PPV's that are taped NEVER do well.

4 - They are barely a blip on the IWC. You think the average person will chose ROH over WWE or TNA when their production is worse than anything ECW put on PPV?

5 - They won't even come close to TNA's buyrates and will very soon be losing money. When you are on PPV, you immediately lose 50% of fee you charge your customers to the PPV companies. Then it takes forever to get your money (and it's not 50% either) back from the companies. Plus you can't charge more than you charge for your DVDs so that's even less money. Oh and the IWC are fucking famous for bootlegging shit through torrents and what not so that's even less money being spent on PPV.

6 - If ROH had anything resembling a star, they are all gone now.

Gabe always said he would never want them to do PPV and I'd be shocked if this was his call. The writing is on the wall for ROH now.

Oh and I LOVE how at least one of the people getting their nipples so hard about the prospect of ROH being on PPV... DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN NORTH AMERICA!!! He can't even get the fucking show on TV.

But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. Or maybe I'm just telling you what you refuse to believe.

Rob - Telling it like it is.

*Sucks Rob off*

I like ROH alot, but have never bought a DVD, I just download the ones I want off the internet the day they come out, and yea I'll see there PPV's but Ill never pay for one.

The positive: wrestling we enjoy on PPV with a chance of growing. Yeah. Enjoy life folks, you'll live longer.

Loving this right now. I'm looking foward to the 1st of July.

Delusional.

Yeah, it'll get cancled before the first airing. :roll:

I wouldn't fuck with Rob. He seems to know his shit. I was happy when I first read that ROH has a PPV deal, but Rob points out some key factors that will more than likely cripple Ring Of Honor.

And coming off as hostile and arrogrant.

Look, I'll be the first to admit that I'm still learning about wrestling and I don't know everything about it, so the comment of "I'm not telling you anything you don't alreadly know or I refuse to believe it" was stupid because guess what, I had no idea what negatives this would have and was asking for someone's insight.

A lot of your points I can't debate. However, I'm agreeing and disagreeing with your fourth point. In comparsion to WWE, UFC and possibly TNA, yes, they aren't that big, but the way I see it, they're doing a lot better than most independent feds, so I wouldn't call them a blip when someone's able to recognize the initials 'ROH' but not 'AWE'. I will agree that their production quality needs work. After watching that video clip again, I thought to myself 'That might pass for DVD release, but they really need more lighting and more camera work done if they're going on PPV.' And until things have changed, they really need a second microphone, it's awkward to see them pass around a mic, especially during promos with rivalries and it's going to come off as bush-league.

I don't see this as a nail in the coffin for ROH, but after hearing what you've said, I do think this may hurt them. Hopefully, they're smart enough to pull the plug on PPVs if it's doing more harm than good.

You ROH marks think I'm saying this to be a dick? Someone said they didn't see the negatives so I pointed them out. I don't see many positives to this at all personally. A couple of years ago would have been the time to do if they were ever going to and they didn't.

The problem is they are too big to be an indy and too small to be on the national scale.

I would love to ROH and TNA to be WCW size companies. But they aren't and will never be. If TNA can't make money on PPV running the same buildings for free, how is ROH?

ROH is not a blip ont he radar, they're barely a blip on the IWC', no one who isn't IWC knows what the hell ROH is.

I apologise if you took offense because nothing I said was directed to you personally.

It was directed at me.. Rob hates me :'(

Yeah you fucker!

Nah I love you really :kiss:

It's only cause I suck you off when you make a point :-p

And?

HBK2K - I'm just going by my experiences, people that I've talked to online who have a interest in independent wrestling know what ROH is or at least have heard of the initials and can say 'They're a professional wrestling company'. Outside of the IWC, they're not even a sprinkle on a donut when you look at them on a mainstream scale and anyone who tries to debate that is being foolish. So... agreeing and disagreeing with your statement.

Rob - No apology neccesary, but thanks. I do appreciate you sharing your points and trying to explain why this is more of a negative than a positive.

I'd be interested in seeing a ROH ppv. I'll take them over TNA anyday.

I'll order the shows in a heartbeat, and I will do everything I can to suck other people into watching it.

I'm sure ROH will do everything in their power to make the first ppv their best show ever.

Also, with ROH, I don't think taping will hurt them as much, because they've always been more about the inring actions, versus the "story." If reviews of the show say there were a shitload of awesome matches, I think it'll help sell the ppv.

Still though, I can't imagine this is going to do anything but suck money from ROH... We'll see.

No doubt Danielson is one of them.