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XL 05-15-2007 05:06 AM

Edge/HBK from Raw (Spoilers)
 
I really hate WWE.

Why do they pull this shit? Why do they insist on reminding us that SmackDown is an inferior berand? And by definition any wrestler on SD! is inferior to a Raw counterpart.

For the second time in recent memory a Raw superstar has switched to the Blue brand and won the WHC on their first night there. And on these two occasions the new WHC and SD! superstar returns to Raw for one last match. And in that match they lose. Both times to HBK.

I have nothing against Shawn Michaels he is a fantastic proformer, but he is also that guy that has been rumoured more than once to have turned down his boss' request that he switch brands to help out. And on both occasions he ends up beating the guy that did switch.

IMO Edge lost a fair amount of momentum having beaten Kennedy for the MitB briefcase, cashing in on SD! to win the WHC only to lose CLEAN to HBK the following Monday.

In the eyes of the marks, SD! will never be seen as anything more than a 2nd rate show if they continue to pull shit like this.

Rant Over.

dude extreme 05-15-2007 05:29 AM

Shawn steps down for nobody. Not even his wife.

Bad Company 05-15-2007 05:37 AM

Yeah, when I read the spoilers I was disgusted.

M-A-G 05-15-2007 06:30 AM

That match really shouldn't have even happened. What beef does Shawn have with Edge anyway? Why would Edge challenge Shawn? I'm pretty positive I didn't hear anything come out of Shawn's mouth that resembled a request for a match. Not that it was a bad match. My friends kept asking if it was for the title considering Shawn's usual passion he invests.

dude extreme 05-15-2007 07:17 AM

Shawn is getting old and bald. He needs to R.I.P so he should retire.

XL 05-15-2007 07:22 AM

Now I see why you have a nice red dot after 54 posts.

Theo Dious 05-15-2007 08:20 AM

Can we go for two?

Rammsteinmad 05-15-2007 10:23 AM

Umm... can't remember but who was the first? Are you referring to Angle?

Londoner 05-15-2007 10:26 AM

M-A-G: I think the reasoning was to set up a feud with Orton, but that should've worked out as Orton costing HBK the match, but instead they left it for him to attack HBK after the match which looked shit. I'm a fan of HBK, but this stuff annoys me, Edge has now lost a bit of momentum he had, and i don't feel as hyped as before about his title reign for some reason.

Team Sheep 05-15-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL
I really hate WWE.

Why do they pull this shit? Why do they insist on reminding us that SmackDown is an inferior berand? And by definition any wrestler on SD! is inferior to a Raw counterpart.

For the second time in recent memory a Raw superstar has switched to the Blue brand and won the WHC on their first night there. And on these two occasions the new WHC and SD! superstar returns to Raw for one last match. And in that match they lose. Both times to HBK.

I have nothing against Shawn Michaels he is a fantastic proformer, but he is also that guy that has been rumoured more than once to have turned down his boss' request that he switch brands to help out. And on both occasions he ends up beating the guy that did switch.

IMO Edge lost a fair amount of momentum having beaten Kennedy for the MitB briefcase, cashing in on SD! to win the WHC only to lose CLEAN to HBK the following Monday.

In the eyes of the marks, SD! will never be seen as anything more than a 2nd rate show if they continue to pull shit like this.

Rant Over.

Exactly my thoughts. That match was dumb. Plus the fact that they were plugging his concussion and back spasms all through the match, and he STILL came back to win clean. Made Edge look pretty shit.

There was no reason for HBK to win that match, he's the most over guy on the roster. As was said earlier, Orton should have just ran in and attacked Shawn before the end.

Jordan 05-15-2007 11:53 AM

The match was awesome who cares. Nobody will remember except the IWC.

BigDaddyCool 05-15-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X
The match was awesome who cares. Nobody will remember except the IWC.

I agree, FIWC.

Tornado 05-15-2007 12:08 PM

So, hasn't HBK beaten both World Champions clean, In very recent memory?

Theo Dious 05-15-2007 12:14 PM

Sad, isn't it.

Tornado 05-15-2007 12:20 PM

Yup.

As much as I like HBK, there was no need to have him go over at the expense of both Champs.

Theo Dious 05-15-2007 12:25 PM

On the subject of love for HBK, does anybody else think that if he isn't going to WIN the damn belt, he should stop challenging for it???

Stickman 05-15-2007 01:10 PM

I found it strange how HBK didn't say anything in his promo and Edge starts going off "You want a match, you got it" Normally Edge is good on the stick but that made no sense.

Juan 05-15-2007 01:32 PM

I was thinking about this very subject last night, mostly because I was fully expecting Edge to win. But come to think about it, they probably did it so the casual fan thinks that Batista is gonna destroy Edge and capture the WHC on Sunday. And when Edge wins, it'll give home some extra heel heat.

wwe2222 05-15-2007 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious
On the subject of love for HBK, does anybody else think that if he isn't going to WIN the damn belt, he should stop challenging for it???

no...b/c people will always believe their is a chance he will win it...plus he will put on great matches and an entertaining fued.

St. Jimmy 05-15-2007 01:48 PM

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SmackDown is terrible, with the exception of Edge.

Stickman 05-15-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy
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SmackDown is terrible, with the exception of Edge.

That's not really a spoiler, more like common knowledge

Slow 05-15-2007 03:11 PM

It sucks at the moment, all the face characters are invincible and all the heel characters job every match. that, people, is why wwe sucks now compared to, say, 6 or so years ago.

With Edge gone, Raw is haggard. If HHH doesn't return heel, they only have the not-so epic battle of good vs good for the main event scene (khali won't be in the title picture for long, and orton will never have a credible title shot). I may be alone here, but i say heel champs are much more watchable than face champs, so Smackdown is now the A show to me

Theo Dious 05-15-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy
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SmackDown is terrible, with the exception of JBL on the mic.


Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2007 01:06 AM

Edge should have beaten HBK cleanly, and looked like a world beater before heading over to SmackDown!, or at least lost due to Batista helping out HBK.

thedamndest 05-16-2007 02:46 PM

I was wondering about this too. They really wanted to build up the Shawn Michaels shouldn't even be out here angle. Why? To build him up to beat Orton on Sunday and then go back to Cena?

Stickman 05-16-2007 02:55 PM

HBK doesn't lay down for anybody.

BigDaddyCool 05-16-2007 03:09 PM

Yeah, HBK needs to go back to no jobbing for anyone, Bret Hart isn't there to ruin it this time.


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