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Supreme Olajuwon 05-16-2007 05:51 PM

All Time New York Yankees vs. All Time Boston Red Sox
 
I have a bit of an obsession with baseball history so I thought it'd be neat to compare an assembly of each team's best players to see who's better. If this goes over well I can do other ones like Giants/Dodgers, Cubs/Cardinals, or any other one if somebody has a request.

But first up it's the sport's best rivalry. The players are basically picked on if they made some sort of significant contribution to the team moreso than how long they played there. Also I'm not overlapping players. Ruth is a Yankee and Boggs and Clemens are Red Sox.

New York Yankees (aka New York Highlanders, Baltimore Orioles)

Batting:
C - Yogi Berra
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Tony Lazzeri
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Alex Rodriguez
OF - Babe Ruth
OF - Joe DiMaggio
OF - Mickey Mantle
DH - Reggie Jackson

Bench:
C - Bill Dickey
1B - Don Mattingly
SS - Phil Rizzuto
OF - Bernie Williams
OF - Dave Winfield

Rotation:
Whitey Ford
Lefty Gomez
Ron Guidry
Mel Sottlemyre
Andy Pettitte
Catfish Hunter

Bullpen:
Mariano Rivera
Rich Gossage
Dave Righetti
Steve Hamilton
Sparky Lyle


Boston Red Sox (aka Boston Americans):

Batting:
C - Carlton Fisk
1B - Jimmie Foxx
2B - Bobby Doerr
SS - Nomar Garciaparra
3B - Wade Boggs
OF - Ted Williams
OF - Carl Yastrzemski
OF - Tris Speaker
DH - David Ortiz

Bench:
C - Jason Varitek
1B - Mo Vaughn
SS - Johnny Pesky
OF - Jim Rice
OF - Manny Ramirez

Rotation:
Cy Young
Roger Clemens
Lefty Grove
Pedro Martinez
Joe Wood

Bullpen:
Bob Stanley
Dennis Eckersley
Dick Radatz
Ellis Kinder
Lee Smith
Keith Foulke


Discuss, debate, compare, contrast, complain, whine, moan. Let's hear it.

Stickman 05-16-2007 05:53 PM

Not being a huge baseball fan here, I'm going to say the Yankees for a simple reason.








































World series vicotries

Supreme Olajuwon 05-16-2007 05:54 PM

the Yankees have a surprisingly thin corp of 3B in their history so besides Boggs, A-Rod has really contributed the most of everyone

and don't argue Scott Brosius is better

FakeLaser 05-16-2007 06:41 PM

I was actually discussing an "all-time" Yankees team the other day and I came up with almost the same lineup. I might have had Munson as backup catcher though. A couple more years and Cano could take Lazerri's spot as starting 2B. You could make a case for Soriano too, actually. Oh yeah, I actually might have picked Willie Randolph as my 2B. Rickey Henderson as a pinch runner might be better than Winfield off the bench also.

I gotta say this though, it's the Yankees by far. Come on. The Yankees have been consistently one of the best teams in baseball since the 1920s. Only in the late 1960s and early 1990s have they sucked. We've had some of the best players EVER. We are the best and most successful franchise in all of sports.

The Sox have a pretty sick starting rotation, I'll give them that. Ours is also ridiculous though so whatever.

Imagine trying to set a batting order out of those lineups? Ridiculous.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 05-17-2007 01:11 AM

While the Yankees have had a much stronger winning tradition, the match up between those 2 teams would have to be a toss up since there is just so much talent on both sides.

So I'm gonna vote Red Sox since everyone else is gonna not even look at the 2 teams and vote off of the history of the two franchises.

BCWWF 05-17-2007 01:44 PM

I looked at the lineups and I simply think the Yankees are better. The Red Sox probably have a better rotation, well probably pretty easily, but the Yankees have such awesome hitters that I can't go against them.

weather vane 05-17-2007 02:49 PM

where is Mike Greenwell?!?!?

Supreme Olajuwon 05-17-2007 03:02 PM

If you can make a case for him over any of the other 5 OFs already on the roster be my guest. I'd love to hear your reasoning for putting him on over any of them.

YOUR Hero 05-17-2007 10:26 PM

Quote:

The players are basically picked on if they made some sort of significant contribution to the team moreso than how long they played there
then shouldn't Clemens be a Yankee? Apart from playing for the Red Sox for more years, he won a championship as a Yankee and also, as a free agent he chose to leave Boston and chose to play for New York. I'd say he's firmly a Yankee.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-17-2007 11:57 PM

His numbers in New York weren't even close to his numbers in Boston. And he didn't choose to play in New York. He chose to go to Toronto and then was traded to New York. FACT

Jesus Shuttlesworth 05-18-2007 12:06 AM

He was forced out of Boston as well

Adder 05-18-2007 06:15 PM

Didn't he just sign in New York as a free agent?

Adder 05-18-2007 06:16 PM

I guess it depends what hat he wears into the HOF. At that point we'll know where he should be placed.


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