"Paying homage..."
 

So, when Eddie died a few wrestlers decided to honor the legacy of him, by using a number of moves like the Frogsplash and the Three Amigos. The main wrestlers who did this were Chris Benoit and Chavo Guerrero.

With Chris now gone, do you think anyone [As Michael Cole would put it] would "pay homage" to Chris Benoit? Maybe by throwing out the triple Germans, or using a diving headbutt/Crippler Crossface.

I know that given different circumstances, im sure wrestlers would be honored to take it upon themselves to "honor" Benoit in this way. But since it was under inhumane-acts would it be frowned upon?

/edit. Ahem. Corrected the moveset.

It would be highly unlikely. As much as I have really liked Benoit for the past 15 years I've watched wrestling. He killed his wife and child. WWE and fans should not condone anything he did by paying homage to his memory. They should perhaps dedicate a show to his wife and son.

I'm sure we'll see the moves done at some point, not necessarily with a mention of Benoit though. The same way they used to avoid mentioning other longstanding wrestlers [who didnt work for them or werent on good terms] who made moves famous.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if people stopped using German suplexes for a while.

Yea, I don't see anyone adopting the crossface in the forseeable future. Anyone in this generation of wrestlers, and the generation that's coming up, and those watching wrestling now...and honestly who after that is gonna not know about this and use it.
Of course it will be used, but probably not prominently by anyone prominent.

I also woudln't be surprised if Germans were just called as "suplexes" when they are used. Especially by JR.

Or much like they renamed the flying leg kick the dropkick after the legends of wrestling pay per view disaster

<font color=white>I know a guy who's planning on using the crossface for cheap heat.</font>

Tell him to enjoy the cheap heat, it's the closest thing to over he'll ever be

Seriously though, that's fucked.

Does Angle still use the Triple Germans?

He did when I saw him live Sunday night.

BAH GAWD MULTIPLE GERMAN SUPLEXES CONDONE MURDER!

ANGLE BUSTS OUT WITH MULTIPLE GERMANS! HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE KILLED THOSE PEOPLE HIMSELF!!!

Nah seriously, I think the best reason why people will cut back on the obvious ones for a while (german suplexes, multiples, crossfaces, diving headbutts) is just to protect themselves from knee-jerk reactions like this.

I would think that the less said about Benoit, the better off WWE would feel. This following week, I don't think they can not say something but after that I would guess they want to put this whole thing behind them. That includes using move sets.

PS I just perma banned the poster known as CripperCrossFace. You know, to pay respects to the dead.

John Cena Clotheslines Sandman

JR: Look at that Variation on a suplex!

I think people are going to disassociate themselves from Benoit, period.

Ok, the problem with doing anything benoit does as a tribute to benoit is that his entire move set (besides the crossface) is in tribue to someone else. His most basic moves and flying head-butt are in honor of Dynamite Kid. He didn't really start using the triple-german suplex after Owen died, and it was one of Owen's signature moves. Then there is the sharpshooter which is in tribute to all of the Harts. So, it is like people who started using the frog splash in memory of Eddie when Eddie was doing it in memory of that one guy who I always forget his name.

I believe that was Jacques A Frogue.

It was called at at points before 9-11.

What's with all this talk of renaming the "German Suplex"? It's not like the move was named after Benoit...

Or even that he was the only one in WWF/E/WCW/ECW who did it.

Oh for fucks sake, benoit didn't make the moves what they are, still using german suplexs and shit (despite the obv. crossface and maybe headbutt). if its a wrestling move its a move and if its in your arsenal then go for it, if people are that paraniod that by using a german suplex will make you kill your son and wife then they can leave wrestling

Without looking it up, I'm going out on a limb here andsaying his name was Art Barr.

<font color=white>It's Art Barr.</font>

Owen used the triple German suxplexes?

I actually really love the Crippler Crossface. I use it all the time against friends in play matches, and would probably have been a signature move if I ever was a pro-wrestler. I hate to see it go out like it was Hitler's mustache or something.

Taking something out of our lives, is that what we should do when something reminds us of an event which we would rather forget? JT Kool brought up Hitler's Moustache, I prefer to refer to that moustache as the Charlie Chaplin Moustache, an actor who made it a legend, and then it gets tainted by somebody who commits an awful act. Keeping that style of moustache alive shows that we won’t glorify the culprit with acknowledging them ownership, and the same thing shouldn’t be done in this case, Chris Benoit was only one of many wrestlers who used the Flying Headbutt, Crossface and German Suplex.

Owen's signature move was not a German Suplex. He used a bridge from time to time, but I never saw that as his signature.

Almost everything Hitler and the Nazis used was nicked from somewhere else, too. The Swastika, the iron cross, even the phrase Nazi comes from a stolen pretense.

But we're a reactionary culture, and a stupid one. Look at what happened Post-911. Stupid motherfuckers took the twin towers out of everything. We want to force a reclassification ogf Bogeyy smoking in Cassablanca to R. Columbine? Trench coats were overnight a sign of terrorism.

I don't remember Owen using triple German suplexes, but he could have because it's an insignificant thing for me to remember. As for Benoit, I remember him using those at least back in 1998.

As for Angle? I'm sure he'll still use them. Impact was taped a couple of weeks ago, I think, but on tonight's Impact he did 5. We'll see what he does after the next tapings.

I do a headbutt, but I’m going to stop doing it, I do a lot of arm work in my matched into a submission, luckily it’s not a crossface though.

I'll be sure to go through the mental exercise of putting myself in a killer's shoes to see why he killed his wife and kid, in an effort to think of him as less of a sick individual, real soon.

No, he does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame implies respectable conduct inside and outside the ring. One out of two does not count.

This is the third time I'm saying this, so just let it sink in this time...he's not going into the Hall of Fame. He killed his family and thus triggers bad publicity for the company that owns the Hall of Fame. They as of now have wiped away all history that he existed in the company other than his championhip wins...though even mention of his win from the WMXX DVD has been removed.

He may have been a good wrestler, but it doesn't outweight the fact that he's committed terrible acts that will never sit well with the general public. Maybe him not getting in doesn't sit well with some, but just get use to it. He is NEVER going to be in the Hall of Fame.

His wife filed for divorce citing abuse before. Very few of us know how he lived. I dare say none of us do. It's equally ignorant of you to claim he lived a virtuous life on the basis of disputed hearsay.

I'll never deny his in-ring ability. Benoit was my hero (With respect to Your Hero, who is still my eHero), and I rooted for him for ten years. I'll watch old tapes of him fondly. (if I can find any of 'em..:|) But what he did in his last days is inexcusable. And I'll expect my own name in the WWE Hall of Fame before I expect to see his.