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Renaissance man 06-30-2007 01:29 PM

Is ken Kennedy really the future of the wwe?
 
I personally dont think so- He just hasn't got that "it" factor that makes a viewer want to put on the television

thoughts/comments?

IC Champion 06-30-2007 01:31 PM

Fuck off Noob.

Anybody Thrilla 06-30-2007 01:33 PM

I thought his whole allure WAS his 'it' factor. Agree to disagree.

Mercury Bullet 06-30-2007 01:39 PM

Who is the alternative right now?

Is Chris Masters the future of the WWE? Carlito? Lashley?

apokalypse7 06-30-2007 01:40 PM

Ken Kennedy is the man. He is one of the new generation that may save the WWE from itself.

but that may be a tall order.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:40 PM

...Kennedy.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:42 PM

But seriously, he has as much of a chance that Cena, Orton, and Batista had, and they went no where.

I'd say the real future is in the guys like Nitro, MVP and the like. Most people are pretty neutral or positive on them at the moment. Who knows, in a few years one of them could be as big as The Rock was when he started to really get over.

apokalypse7 06-30-2007 01:43 PM

Has there ever been a thread that asks the question about the next big stars in WWE? kinda like how Rocky, HHH, Austin and the like were just itching to break through during that golden time?

Xero 06-30-2007 01:43 PM

Nah. Never. Only 846 times. But other than that, never.

Mercury Bullet 06-30-2007 01:44 PM

I think MVP is going to be the "guy" at some point and I can see him being as big as The Rock. I think Orton can still be big, but he has set himself back to much to carry the company I think. Kennedy, Nitro, and Punk will all be up there but if I had to put money on one guy, it'd be MVP.

Anybody Thrilla 06-30-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Is Chris Masters the future of the WWE?

I honestly think Chris Masters is gonna surprise a lot of people in the future. You're all fans. You just don't know it yet.

IC Champion 06-30-2007 01:48 PM

I don't see anyone in the WWE being the next big superstar, not on WWE's current product anyways. Theres a few guys I'm high on, and like alot, but being the next Rock, or Stone Cold, I don't see anyone who could pull it off anytime soon.

Mercury Bullet 06-30-2007 01:48 PM

Masters is gonna have to get a lot better, and fast, if he is. I think he's falling behind Kennedy, Nitro, MVP, Punk, etc...He's the only one of that generation NOT doing anything right now.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:50 PM

Unless a drastic booking change (as in the entire current team is taken out of control) happens Punk will NEVER be seen as someone who could carry the company by people in WWE.

Anybody Thrilla 06-30-2007 01:50 PM

Masters HAS gotten a lot better, really. Think of the Stevie Richards nose-breaking days compared to now. I think he's come a long way. I think that steroid test fucked him up a bit and drained all of his momentum, but it's not impossible to rebound. He's about to wreck shop on Smackdown. That's my prediction anyway.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:52 PM

WWE needs to stop bringing up green fucks. Masters could have been huge by now had he spent more time in OVW and worked on some shit.

That goes for a lot of the new guys they've been bringing up for the last two years or so.

Mercury Bullet 06-30-2007 01:53 PM

I don't think Punk will be the 'guy', but I think he'll be one of those guys that walks the line of upper card-main event and maybe has one or two brief title runs. I'll agree that Masters has improved, but he is still behind alot of other guys of his generation right now. Nitro is the ECW champ, Kennedy is getting a Main Event Push, MVP is US Champ...Masters is...? MAYBE going to get a push on Smackdown. Smackdown is pretty heel-heavy right now though...is there room on the card for a big push on Masters?

Anybody Thrilla 06-30-2007 01:54 PM

Masters was ALMOST an Intercontinental champion, damn it!

IC Champion 06-30-2007 01:55 PM

Masters will do nothing special with his career, I don't see him ever moving past Mid-Card before his release.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
I don't think Punk will be the 'guy', but I think he'll be one of those guys that walks the line of upper card-main event and maybe has one or two brief title runs.

Agreed. He'll be their go-to guy for when they have a gap in the upper roster and/or need a good temporary feud. As far as title runs, yeah, I could see him being a transitional champion.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Masters was ALMOST an Intercontinental champion, damn it!

Khali was ALMOST a WWE Champion.

:shifty:

Mercury Bullet 06-30-2007 01:57 PM

If a top star gets hurt, Punk is the guy that gets the temporary push and title reign...until the top star gets back and then he'll be promptly booted back down.

Xero 06-30-2007 01:58 PM

Exactly.

I could see Punk bringing something good to the IC title. Give him the title and give him a long run, maybe trading it a few times just to get him more over. He could do wonders to bring that back to where it once was.

Mercury Bullet 06-30-2007 02:03 PM

Yeh, they need solid guys in the mid card. The mid card titles are all virtually worthless. The US Title is the only that has any sort of value at the moment, I think.

Renaissance man 06-30-2007 02:04 PM

Here's an idea: Vince should break out the chequebook and bring Styles,Daniels and Joe to the wwe.

Xero 06-30-2007 02:04 PM

Ah, a TNA mark, it figures.

Styles and Daniels would bring nothing to the WWE that they would want. They would be stuffed in the Cruiserweight division and job on a weekly basis.

Joe would maybe make it for a little while, but would eventually be put into a feud with Umaga and be jobbed out.

Anybody Thrilla 06-30-2007 02:05 PM

Yup, it's just that easy. Shut up.

Rob 06-30-2007 02:07 PM

Kennedy is gonna be the top man one day. Reports are he is very respectful to everyone and is willing to learn. All the guys like him. His ring work in solid and he can talk so he has a great chance.

Xero 06-30-2007 02:07 PM

And besides, WWE doesn't need to keep bringing in new guys. They have a roster of like 80+. They need to build who they have before going for outside "help".

Half the WWE roster could make it huge if WWE booked them properly. They can work, they can talk, but they don't get the pushes they need.

JT 06-30-2007 02:08 PM

I don't know...I have high hopes for Ken Kennedy and my new favorite wrestler Johnny Nitro. Carlito was really becoming a favorite of mine for awhile but kid of just died in the mid cards. Also I really liked John Cena for a time like he was the next big thing...I actually still think he's got the "it" factor, but really needs a heel turn before anyone likes him again. When he's not being shoved down our throats, he'll be over again with fans (like The Rock).

Xero 06-30-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JT Kool
I don't know...I have high hopes for Ken Kennedy and my new favorite wrestler Johnny Nitro. Carlito was really becoming a favorite of mine for awhile but kid of just died in the mid cards. Also I really liked John Cena for a time like he was the next big thing...I actually still think he's got the "it" factor, but really needs a heel turn before anyone likes him again. When he's not being shoved down our throats, he'll be over again with fans (like The Rock).

As far as Cena goes, and I've been saying this for months, he needs a more serious gimmick. If he dropped the rap and gangster shit and made him a Franchise-like character I think he could get over huge. That's how I would turn him - make him exactly the opposite of what he is today. A bad ass who thinks he's the best in the business, not a puss going around telling gay jokes and having Hogan matches.

You wouldn't have to lose the thug thing entirely, but he needs a more serious and realistic heel gimmick. Then, after a (long) heel run, turn him face, maybe bring back SOME aspects of his current gimmick, and make him a marketing machine again but with a wider appeal.

The WWE is worried about the short-term only, which is probably the biggest reason why they haven't turned him. If they were looking three, four, and even more than five years into the future they would see that turning him heel and even reinventing him and then back face again could jump start his popularity.

IC Champion 06-30-2007 02:19 PM

There's a problem though, Cena has limited talent.

Renaissance man 06-30-2007 02:21 PM

Cena is so overrated it is sickening- he is a midcard wrestler at best.

I see your point xero about the wwe developing the talent they have- Would Jeff Hardy have any credibility as champ? i cant see why not

Anybody Thrilla 06-30-2007 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
...a Franchise-like character I think he could get over huge. That's how I would turn him - make him exactly the opposite of what he is today. A bad ass who thinks he's the best in the business...

Pretty sure Triple H wouildn't like somebody with his exact gimmick.

IC Champion 06-30-2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Pretty sure Triple H wouildn't like somebody with his exact gimmick.

Cause it's not like Triple H would rip anyone off.

Xero 06-30-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Renaissance man
Cena is so overrated it is sickening- he is a midcard wrestler at best.

Let's look at some of the greatest sports entertainers of the past twenty years.

Ric Flair: Great wrestler, great promo, great character. The total package.

Hulk Hogan: Great on the mic, shitty in the ring, good character.

Shawn Michaels: Good wrestler, good promo, great characters arguably ending at his current character.

The Undertaker: All character.

Austin: All character. He COULD wrestle, but all he had to do was raise hell, throw a few punches and hit a Jawbreaker and people went nuts.

Rock: Again, all character. He wasn't that great of a wrestler either. He wasn't BAD, but he wasn't one of the better men in the ring.

Triple H: Very good wrestler, great promo, great characters.

Kurt Angle: Great wrestler, great promo, great characters. The total package.

Cena: Not a great wrestler, can do great promos when he's not throwing out gay jokes every ten seconds, great brawler.

Two of the nine listed here got over on "wrestling". The rest mainly relied on character. Give Cena a decent serious character and he could be huge.

Xero 06-30-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renaissance man
Would Jeff Hardy have any credibility as champ?

LOL, no. That ship sailed about three years ago.

IC Champion 06-30-2007 02:36 PM

Why is Shawn Michaels not listed as a great wrestler, and should be on the top of that list.

James Steele 06-30-2007 02:39 PM

Anybody can be credible with the right booking. Nobody besides the IWC remember who somebody lost to in 2002.

IC Champion 06-30-2007 02:40 PM

J.R. would rememeber....


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