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Mr. JL 02-28-2004 09:04 PM

Triple H is responsible!!!
 
Triple H is responsible for the downfall of the WWE.

yes...or...no

Champion of Europa 02-28-2004 09:20 PM

There really is no downfall as much as there is a lag in business.

If you could call it a downfall, it would be more blamed upon nepotism and the writing team.

Mikey 02-28-2004 09:47 PM

Well said Champion

Shaggy 02-28-2004 10:27 PM

I dont think Triple H is causing a downfall in the WWE. Just because the guy holds the title forever doesnt meant that he is reponsible.

Rob 02-28-2004 11:14 PM

He hasn't helped but he isn't the source of the problem. That's ALL Vince McMahon. He takes all the praise when they are sucessful so he has to take it when business is down. Of course, he always finds others to blame e.g. internet, 9/11, gulf wars, Ted Turner, steroid cases/federal lawsuits, Bret Hart, WCW invasions, dirtsheets, etc

Corkscrewed 02-28-2004 11:40 PM

WWE is far from dying.

Kane Knight 02-29-2004 11:37 AM

I voted "Other."

He's not helping the business, but he hasn't exactly killed it yet, either.s

Kane Knight 02-29-2004 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob
He hasn't helped but he isn't the source of the problem. That's ALL Vince McMahon. He takes all the praise when they are sucessful so he has to take it when business is down. Of course, he always finds others to blame e.g. internet, 9/11, gulf wars, Ted Turner, steroid cases/federal lawsuits, Bret Hart, WCW invasions, dirtsheets, etc

Well of course. Bad Booking is nothing compared to 9/11.

And the internet. WTF's up with that? We all HATE wrestling. :shifty:

Rob 02-29-2004 12:07 PM

Yeah I know. We have nothing better to do than watch 4 hours of wrestling on TV, buy monthly 3 hour PPVs, go to live shows and then come online and bitch about how much wrestling sucks and how sh</>it it all is.

BigDaddyCool 02-29-2004 01:19 PM

Um....I haven't seen a full wrestling show in like 3 months because of this, that, and the other. It is HHH's fault at all (cause I'm a HHH mark), it is more of American chopper's fault and my friends who love to get together on Thursdays.

Champion of Europa 02-29-2004 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Um....I haven't seen a full wrestling show in like 3 months because of this, that, and the other. It is HHH's fault at all (cause I'm a HHH mark), it is more of American chopper's fault and my friends who love to get together on Thursdays.

It cannot be prevented.

American Chopper Foo Man Chu > Hogan's Foo Man Chu.

asphyXy 02-29-2004 01:37 PM

<font color=969696>Triple H is the GAME and he's where he's at because he didn't play by the rules. You're just jealous that you're not as good as him. I mean, he's held the title for the longest time by doing whatever it takes. He's a true fighting champion unlike Chris Jericho or Shawn Michaels.</font>

Kane Knight 02-29-2004 01:47 PM

That was funny.

jessica rocks 03-01-2004 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asphyXy
<font color=969696>Triple H is the GAME and he's where he's at because he didn't play by the rules. You're just jealous that you're not as good as him. I mean, he's held the title for the longest time by doing whatever it takes. He's a true fighting champion unlike Chris Jericho or Shawn Michaels.</font>

Exactly HOW long has it been since HHH wrestled in a match???? :shifty:

Fryza 03-01-2004 02:46 AM

Entirely? No. But, he has contributed to a good deal of it.

John la Rock 03-01-2004 02:50 AM

Triple H is not responsible. Vince McMahon is!!! 900 posts what!!!

jessica rocks 03-01-2004 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fryza
Entirely? No. But, he has contributed to a good deal of it.

I wouldnt even say that. He has "held down" certain talent but for the most part is has not hurt the WWE in any way. This is another era in the saga of the WWE. Just like "hulkamania" and "dx" .. "the drama of HHH" will pass on to a new era. And just looking at the younger stars of the WWE (Orton, Batista, Cena, Conway, etc) gives the company hope for a bright of future as the past.

In 2 or 3 years from now i think HHH will just another washed up wrestler.

Paranoid Rattlesnake 03-01-2004 06:45 AM

If you voted yes you seriously need a slap

Kane Knight 03-01-2004 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Yeah I know. We have nothing better to do than watch 4 hours of wrestling on TV, buy monthly 3 hour PPVs, go to live shows and then come online and bitch about how much wrestling sucks and how sh</>it it all is.

Yeah, and somehow, it's because the programming's of impeccable quality but WE'RE the problem...:lol:

FourFifty 03-01-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I voted "Other."

He's not helping the business, but he hasn't exactly killed it yet, either.s


Well stated! Good form!

Kane Knight 03-01-2004 10:14 AM

Tallyho! ;)

Loose Cannon 03-01-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Yeah I know. We have nothing better to do than watch 4 hours of wrestling on TV, buy monthly 3 hour PPVs, go to live shows and then come online and bitch about how much wrestling sucks and how sh</>it it all is.

Yep that's my whole reason for living. I get up each morning and say to myself, "Today is going to be a great day to bit** about wrestling."

Kane Knight 03-01-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Yep that's my whole reason for living. I get up each morning and say to myself, "Today is going to be a great day to bit** about wrestling."

I thought I was the only one! ({)

Tornado 03-01-2004 12:01 PM

<font color=#33ffff>He is not personally responsible but he sure as hell hasn't helped.</font>

Kane Knight 03-01-2004 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tornado
<font color=#33ffff>He is not personally responsible but he sure as hell hasn't helped.</font>

This is very true.

BigDaddyCool 03-01-2004 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jessica_rocks
... "the drama of HHH" will pass on to a new era. And just looking at the younger stars of the WWE (Orton, Batista, Cena, Conway, etc) gives the company hope for a bright of future as the past.

You can eleminate all those names (expecially Orton) and keep Cena. Cena is the only...ONLY...one with any true potential in the entire pack.

Orton is crap they are trying to market as fine chocolate. Batista is an injury prone 'riod freak. Isn't Conway in that stupid french gimmick, if he ever gets rid of that stigima, the best he can do is get to be a HHH or a Randy Savage. Sure they are champion, but they are remebered because of the Hogans and Austins of the world.

Rain Man 03-01-2004 07:42 PM

Nah, and the HHH, HBK rivalry is getting very old.

Chilorioman 03-01-2004 07:46 PM

Actually the downfall started when there were less gimmicks and when the XFLcame in before that the attitude era was the shit!

Rock Bottom 03-01-2004 07:46 PM

Dude, Randy Orton is gonna be the man, what the hell are you talking about?

Xero 03-01-2004 07:56 PM

Is Triple H Responcible for the downfall of WWE/Wrestling in general? No...

Is WWE/Wrestling even in a downfall? Not really, just a slump...

Sure, Triple H is a factor in the shitty TV, but you cant just drop a bomb on one person in general... If I WERE going to drop somthing on one particular person, Id say Vince, but even still, he couldnt destroy wrestling, even if he tried...

Sure, the ratings are down, but still, a few million people each week couldnt be wrong... Could they? (Am I right saying a few million? I dont really know how the ratings system works)

BigDaddyCool 03-02-2004 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rock Bottom
Dude, Randy Orton is gonna be the man, what the hell are you talking about?

If by the man you mean X-Pac, then yes.

BigDaddyCool 03-02-2004 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Is Triple H Responcible for the downfall of WWE/Wrestling in general? No...

Is WWE/Wrestling even in a downfall? Not really, just a slump...

Sure, Triple H is a factor in the shitty TV, but you cant just drop a bomb on one person in general... If I WERE going to drop somthing on one particular person, Id say Vince, but even still, he couldnt destroy wrestling, even if he tried...

Sure, the ratings are down, but still, a few million people each week couldnt be wrong... Could they? (Am I right saying a few million? I dont really know how the ratings system works)

Yeah, lets drop Vince that's smart. Lets drop the one man that has proven he can defy the odds and make wrestling great.

Kane Knight 03-02-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Yeah, lets drop Vince that's smart. Lets drop the one man that has proven he can defy the odds and make wrestling great.

Proven?

Yeah, shoot a promotion in the foot 90 times, survive through total luck and people like Hogan and Austin, and suddenly you're the one responsible for the boon...

Joe Kerr 03-02-2004 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake
If you voted yes you seriously need a slap

agreed you cant blame it solely on one wrestler.

BigDaddyCool 03-02-2004 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Proven?

Yeah, shoot a promotion in the foot 90 times, survive through total luck and people like Hogan and Austin, and suddenly you're the one responsible for the boon...

Is it luck? Luck is shooting a promotion in the foot once, and surviving. Luck is doing it twice. Luck could even be 3 times. But at what point does it become skill. Hogan and Austin didn't really sucseed till they were working with Vince.

BTW, who else can take on the US goverenment, Ted Turner, fail at aleast two huge business ventures, and everything else he has done and still come out on top? Losers alway complain about luck.

P.S.
I'm not kissing Vinny Macs ass, the guy is a rioded up jackass that I wouldn't trust for nothing, but he isn't lucky, he is good.

BigDaddyCool 03-02-2004 01:16 AM

Oh, but if Vince is repsonible for the boon, the he is equally responsible for the bust.


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