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darkpower 08-02-2007 03:39 AM

Which of these "heatseakers" would you hire into a promotion?
 
Choose any one (but ONLY one) of these that are under the radar and state the reason:

Brock Lesner
Vince Russo (haven't been watching TNA lately, but don't think he has any on air roles right now)
Goldberg
Syxx-Pac (Sean Waltman)
Lex Luger
Scott Hall

(That's all I can think of right now, so choose any one of these guys and say why).

Nowhere Man 08-02-2007 03:47 AM

Lesnar. He's a damn good wrestler, he's got the big-burly-man look that WWE loves, and he's not over the hill like the other choices.

GD 08-02-2007 05:26 AM

Brock Lesnar. He was the corner stone of the Smackdown! brand.

Mr. Nerfect 08-02-2007 06:36 AM

Brock Lesnar, easily. The man is a great worker, and was the last guy that was actually pushed like a star, and felt like it.

Dave Youell 08-02-2007 06:59 AM

Luger

Why?

I DON'T KNOW!

Theo Dious 08-02-2007 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkpower
Vince Russo (haven't been watching TNA lately, but don't think he has any on air roles right now)
Goldberg
Syxx-Pac (Sean Waltman)
Lex Luger
Scott Hall

One of these things is not like the others... :shifty:

Impeccable 08-02-2007 08:18 AM

I'd actually go with Waltman on this one. Brock left the business of his own accord. He didn't want to continue. Waltman on the other hand still wants to wrestle and can work. He'd be decent in the cruiserweight division as a heel and could probably work with Chavo, Rey, Finlay, etc. on Smackdown.

Plus, after his "encounter" with Chyna, SmackDown can finally get that bisexual gimmick they've been craving.

Dorkchop 08-02-2007 09:41 AM

Brock Lesnar is still young and can go in the ring. If he can get his head out of his ass, he'd be a great guy to have in a company.

Luger is too old and shitty.
Goldberg is only in it for the money, and a whiney bitch.
X-Pac is really fucking annoying and no one would care about him anymore.
Scott Hall is too old, fat, and addicted.
Russo was terrible as an on air personality. And a terrible writer.

Jordan 08-02-2007 10:25 AM

Goldberg

Jordan 08-02-2007 10:28 AM

(I'd want to make money not loose money)

BigDaddyCool 08-02-2007 10:36 AM

Scott Hall or possibly X-Pac

K4L

IC Champion 08-02-2007 10:53 AM

Brock Lesnar sucked, he ring work was decent at best, and posessed little to no mic skills, just thought I would say that.

BigDaddyCool 08-02-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic
Brock Lesnar sucked, he ring work was decent at best, and posessed little to no mic skills, just thought I would say that.

The majority of Lesnar's career he wrestled Kurt Angle and the two had excellent chemistery. When Brock faced Hogan and Rock, the matches were secondary to the hype and what the wins meant. Also, Brock v Bigshow were booked perectly. When you take away the marketing and work rate in WWE, Brock just isn't the same.

IC Champion 08-02-2007 11:26 AM

I never liked Brock in the first place.

St. Jimmy 08-02-2007 11:31 AM

I'll take "A Whiney Penis" for 300, alex.

Theo Dious 08-02-2007 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
The majority of Lesnar's career he wrestled Kurt Angle and the two had excellent chemistery.

And that may have been the height of Angle's career.

Quote:

When Brock faced Hogan and Rock, the matches were secondary to the hype and what the wins meant.
The only thing people remember about Hogan vs Brock is the whole blood-wiping spot at the end, and while Brock vs Rock was a more than decent match, if it hadn't been a title match it wouldn't be remembered anywhere near as much.

BigDaddyCool 08-02-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious
And that may have been the height of Angle's career.

Possibly, but Angle has proven to be good outside of Lesnar. Lesnar has proven to get a penis tattooed between his muscular man boobs outside of Angle. So, it could be argued that Lesnar help make Angle what he was at the time, Angle has a better track record.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious
The only thing people remember about Hogan vs Brock is the whole blood-wiping spot at the end, and while Brock vs Rock was a more than decent match, if it hadn't been a title match it wouldn't be remembered anywhere near as much.

That pretty much proves my point.

Theo Dious 08-02-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Possibly, but Angle has proven to be good outside of Lesnar.

Exactly. Basically Lesnar was made to look great by working with one of the best in-ring workers in the past ten years, at his height.

Quote:

Lesnar has proven to get a penis tattooed between his muscular man boobs
I thought that was a self-portrait. :shifty:

The One 08-02-2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Scott Hall or possibly X-Pac

K4L

K4L

FourFifty 08-02-2007 12:33 PM

Russo, just so I can have him make me coffee. That's all he'll do.

IC Champion 08-02-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty
Russo, just so I can have him make me coffee. That's all he'll do.

Russo gets alot of shit that he doesn't always deserve, IMO.

Mercury Bullet 08-02-2007 01:42 PM

If Scott Hall would get in shape, then it would be him. Even then, I'd probably bring him in and snatch Nash away from TNA. They wouldn't have to wrestle but they would be on air personalities that would make the current product a hell of a lot more entertaining.

Mercury Bullet 08-02-2007 01:47 PM

I think it would be gold if they sorta did what TNA is doing with Nash now...Have them take a tag team under their wing and mold them into greatness. I could see this angle working really well with them and the WGTT, could have some hilarious segments.

FourFifty 08-02-2007 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic
Russo gets alot of shit that he doesn't always deserve, IMO.

Bash at the Beach 2000.... There were plans for the title that he derailed. I'm convinced that WCW would have had a fighting chance if it wasn't for Russo's fallout after Jeff Jarrett layed down.
All Russo needs to be a great person in the industry is a short leash. That's why he was a great writer in the additute era. Vince McMahon kept him in check. WCW, being owned by Turner (this accounts for half the nails in WCW's coffin, so I won't blame Russo for everything wrong with WCW), didn't have the owner overseeing everything.

IC Champion 08-02-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty
Bash at the Beach 2000.... There were plans for the title that he derailed. I'm convinced that WCW would have had a fighting chance if it wasn't for Russo's fallout after Jeff Jarrett layed down.
All Russo needs to be a great person in the industry is a short leash. That's why he was a great writer in the additute era. Vince McMahon kept him in check. WCW, being owned by Turner (this accounts for half the nails in WCW's coffin, so I won't blame Russo for everything wrong with WCW), didn't have the owner overseeing everything.

WCW was doomed, with or without Russo, and if anything, Russo prolonged it's life, since he did manage to bring their rating from about a 2.5 to a 3.4 in about 3 months time, which is rediculous, and than he was removed as head booker shortly after that.

James Steele 08-02-2007 02:48 PM

Wow. You need to read The Death Of WCW.

Erebus 08-02-2007 02:54 PM

Scott Hall. He was always very solid in the ring, and entertaining on the mic. If he has really cleaned himself up, and is focused I could deal with a good mid card run for him in the WWE.

IC Champion 08-02-2007 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesSteele
Wow. You need to read The Death Of WCW.

You don't need to read when you could see the product getting terrible each week, long before Russo arrived, Russo played his role in the demise, but he was a small reason in why WCW went out of business.

The One 08-02-2007 04:19 PM

For the record, Tovo is a Russo fan...well...sort of. I think he's a fantastic idea man, just when he's left alone to run things, his ideas get WAY out of hand. If someone is there to monitor Russo, his ideas can be shaped into a fantastic product.

Jordan 08-02-2007 04:33 PM

Tovo, when has this ever been proven except WWE 97-98? Nobody knows what ideas were his and what were somebody elses. All his other work shows that he is pretty incompetent when it comes to good wrestling product. I'm not slaming you for liking him, we all have our favorites. Honestly though, he has made some shit.

The One 08-02-2007 04:42 PM

I'm basis this off of the work done in 97-99, in which he was head writer, and also what people from within the industry have said. Plus some of his ideas in WCW were not terrible, they were just terrible executed. And even at the peak of the horrific car crash that was WCW, that was STILL better than what WWE is throwing against the wall right now. I'm not saying he is perfect, I'm saying that as a writer I have enjoyed a lot of his work, and as an on screen personality, I enjoyed his character...despite how one sided it was.

IC Champion 08-02-2007 04:52 PM

Russo was behind Austion Vs McMahon

The Corperate Ministry

and

D-X

I could name more, but is there any need, 2 of 3 alone made the WWE millions apoun millions of dollars, and turned the WWE around.

Sepholio 08-02-2007 05:00 PM

Brock Lesnar.

Seriously, that was the easiest choice ever.

Mercury Bullet 08-02-2007 05:01 PM

Russo needs to be a member of a writing staff in which he has to answer to somebody. I don't think he should ever be in charge of booking or the head of the writing staff.

XL 08-02-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic
Brock Lesnar sucked, he ring work was decent at best, and posessed little to no mic skills, just thought I would say that.

Cena, Batista, Khali, Henry, even Orton to a degree.

What's the harm in adding one more "decent" guy to the pack?

Lesnar all the way.

Mercury Bullet 08-02-2007 06:24 PM

I never really liked Lesnar, and I think he gave birth to the whole idea that anybody who was big and angry looking would instantly = main event superstar.

I will say I prefer Lesnar to Batista, Khali, Henry, Umaga, Cena, etc...

El Dandy 08-02-2007 06:24 PM

Lesnar because he could actually draw.

FourFifty 08-02-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
For the record, Tovo is a Russo fan...well...sort of.


How the hell did you get the name Tovo anyways?

mrslackalack 08-02-2007 11:01 PM

Brock had some good matches (Angle series, Eddie, Taker HIAC,) He would be a big addition if he ever came back to WWE. So either Brock or Hall because I love Halls charisma and him getting in shape and returning as Razor would be awesome. He could have a Carbbieran feud against Carlito.

BigDaddyCool 08-02-2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty
How the hell did you get the name Tovo anyways?

ToVo = The One, Verison One. Kinda like Matt Hardy Verison 1.0, or whatever. Or how about shut up?


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