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Mercury Bullet 09-11-2007 07:03 PM
To quote Goldberg
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldberg
TNA totally blows, man.










How fucking bad has TNA gotten that BILL GOLDBERG declares it "blows"? Is he justified in his critique of the current state of Total Nonstop Action?

Jordan 09-11-2007 07:06 PM
Totally and completely justified. I don't even enjoy reading the spoilers they are so bad.

Stickman 09-11-2007 07:06 PM
I agree with Goldberg.

Mercury Bullet 09-11-2007 07:14 PM
I used to enjoy TNA. Like, up until a year ago or so. It has been in one hell of a downward spiral...

Xero 09-11-2007 07:25 PM
Actually, his exact words were "RAAWWRG GRRRRRAAABBBB!".

BigDaddyCool 09-11-2007 07:35 PM
While Goldberg is right about TNA blowing. He also, in the same interview made it sound like he knew more about wrestling and was better than TNA. Which rubs me the wrong way because Goldberg never cared about wrestling it was just a pay check too him. Plus he bad mouthed TNA for hiring a football player and pushing said football play hard. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

Mercury Bullet 09-11-2007 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Plus he bad mouthed TNA for hiring a football player and pushing said football play hard. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.
:lol: Very true.

Kane Knight 09-11-2007 09:10 PM
Goldberg is crying sour grapes. I mean, TNA does blow, but let's have a little fucking perspective, here.

BigDaddyCool 09-11-2007 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Goldberg is crying sour grapes. I mean, TNA does blow, but let's have a little fucking perspective, here.
Go on.

Jura 09-11-2007 10:06 PM
Quote the Goldberg, Nevermore.

YOUR Hero 09-11-2007 10:14 PM
Yeah BDC, you nailed it pretty damned good.

Why should he even be commenting on it anyway? Last I heard, he was doing other things like that Bull Run series amongst other things.

Jordan 09-12-2007 01:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
While Goldberg is right about TNA blowing. He also, in the same interview made it sound like he knew more about wrestling and was better than TNA. Which rubs me the wrong way because Goldberg never cared about wrestling it was just a pay check too him. Plus he bad mouthed TNA for hiring a football player and pushing said football play hard. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

Not true at all actually, seeing as Bill spent a few years training to be a wrestler. And actually has wrestling skill.

Tommy Gunn 09-12-2007 11:12 AM
True, Billy boy was by no stretch of the imagination a technical master, but he was never supposed to be. He's no worse than any of the other powerhouses WWE are pushing at the moment.

His comments on TNA are absolutely spot on. It's a mess and I'm embarrassed for Kurt Angle to be working there.

Rammsteinmad 09-12-2007 11:35 AM
Goldberg makes it sound like he's still the best thing in pro wrestling today.

.44 Magdalene 09-12-2007 11:43 AM
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think he came off as egotistical as alot of people are suggesting he did. I think what he said was pretty spot on.

Innovator 09-12-2007 11:51 AM
Heres the full quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldberg
"TNA totally blows, man. I don't think they have a clue as to what people want to see, I think. They've got a very clouded vision. Right after the Benoit death, WWE and TNA had an opportunity to 'make it right.' They had an opportunity, they had everyone's attention and what does TNA do? They go out and sign 'Pacman' Jones. That in itself, in a nutshell, describes TNA's mentality. That as a viable option for Goldberg? Absolutely not. Those guys don't deserve to have me on their program."

IC Champion 09-12-2007 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad
Goldberg makes it sound like he's still the best thing in pro wrestling today.
That implies that at one time he was.

Theo Dious 09-12-2007 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Actually, his exact words were "RAAWWRG GRRRRRAAABBBB!".
He also employs Khali's translator.

Mr. JL 09-12-2007 01:10 PM
Goldberg speaks the truth

BigDaddyCool 09-12-2007 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan X
Not true at all actually, seeing as Bill spent a few years training to be a wrestler. And actually has wrestling skill.
OMG, SHUT THE FUCK UP. GOD YOU ARE RETARDED.

BigDaddyCool 09-12-2007 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewberg
TNA totally blows, man. I don't think they have a clue as to what people want to see, I think. They've got a very clouded vision. Right after the Benoit death, WWE and TNA had an opportunity to 'make it right.' They had an opportunity, they had everyone's attention and what does TNA do? They go out and sign 'Pacman' Jones. That in itself, in a nutshell, describes TNA's mentality. That as a viable option for Goldberg? Absolutely not. Those guys don't deserve to have me on their program.
While he is spot on, he come off egotrsical knowing his background and him being a 1 trick pony of a star. Goldberg is practically the same as Warrior only not crazy enough to make his own religion. 'Berg is right until it comes to the part about TNA deserving him, they both deserve better than the other. It is hard to explain, but neither are right for each other.

br0ken 09-13-2007 12:42 AM
So I guess he was in talks with TNA to go back to wrestling:?: because otherwise their is no reason for him to be bitter about them guys.

.44 Magdalene 09-13-2007 09:28 AM
He didn't say anything that alot of non-wrestlers haven't been saying. I've heard fans, good wrestlers, bad wrestlers, everybody voice the opinion that Goldberg did almost verbatim, not counting the last line... and I don't think that's too easy to argue with. He's got a solid point. Period. It doesn't matter what his history's like, what he's saying makes sense. If I can say it's retarded for them to hire Pacman without having ever wrestled a match, and nobody says a bad word about it... well, I don't really see why Goldberg can't.

.44 Magdalene 09-13-2007 09:30 AM
Also, to the question of "why is he even commenting on it?"...


Wasn't this in an interview? Maybe I'm totally out of the field here, but didn't he give his opinion because somebody asked for it?

YOUR Hero 09-13-2007 10:39 AM
Being asked doesn't mean you have to answer. Him going off on a tangent is pretty.... well, immature.

Wrestling promotions have brought in sports and TV celebrities many times over the years. What's so different this time? Nothing that's what.

BigDaddyCool 09-13-2007 12:49 PM
I don't blame TNA for trying to bring someone famous in to help get their name out their. But they really need to push their own talent.

dablackguy 09-13-2007 01:00 PM
Goldberg slandering a wrestling company, big shock there.

As Goldberg would say: Who's Next?

As I would say: Who gives a shit?

The One 09-13-2007 01:04 PM
I totally agree with what he said. And to the people who seem somehow alarmed that Billy Boy is bashing TNA in interviews, I have this to say in response; It's Bill Goldberg. Nobody REALLY gave a shit what he had to say in the 90's and they care even less now.

Fox 09-13-2007 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Being asked doesn't mean you have to answer. Him going off on a tangent is pretty.... well, immature.

Wrestling promotions have brought in sports and TV celebrities many times over the years. What's so different this time? Nothing that's what.
When they worked successfully in the past, the celebrities were brought in to highlight what was already a very strong show. And that's it; to highlight. Mike Tyson, Dennis Rodman (the first time), Karl Malone, and Jay Leno; they were brought in to make current existing feuds stronger and more mainstream. They were there to back guys like Stone Cold, Shawn Michaels, Hollywood Hogan, and DDP.

But TNA doesn't even have the solidified names yet, and they're bringing in Pacman Jones. Now he's one half of the god damn TNA Tag Champions with Ron Killings; a guy who hasn't done ANYTHING worthy of note in the past 2 years. Pacman has no direction in TNA; just like the rest of the roster; and so he won't do any good in elevating or highlighting anyone.

They need to concentrate on their stars and their storylines; not in bringing in more wasteful talent like Pacman Jones and Rikishi.

The One 09-13-2007 06:07 PM
Yeah I'm a bit confused why they need to bring in Kish. I mean seriously, their entire show is one big metaphorical stink face to the audience, do they need a mascot or something?

IC Champion 09-13-2007 06:49 PM
Wait, what happened to their mascot?

IC Champion 09-13-2007 06:50 PM
Also, isn't Eric Young TNA's mascot?

YOUR Hero 09-13-2007 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
When they worked successfully in the past, the celebrities were brought in to highlight what was already a very strong show. And that's it; to highlight. Mike Tyson, Dennis Rodman (the first time), Karl Malone, and Jay Leno; they were brought in to make current existing feuds stronger and more mainstream. They were there to back guys like Stone Cold, Shawn Michaels, Hollywood Hogan, and DDP.

But TNA doesn't even have the solidified names yet, and they're bringing in Pacman Jones. Now he's one half of the god damn TNA Tag Champions with Ron Killings; a guy who hasn't done ANYTHING worthy of note in the past 2 years. Pacman has no direction in TNA; just like the rest of the roster; and so he won't do any good in elevating or highlighting anyone.

They need to concentrate on their stars and their storylines; not in bringing in more wasteful talent like Pacman Jones and Rikishi.
They were not only ever brought in to make an existing feud stronger, they've been brought in, in the past to capitalize on the celebrates popularity, be it good or bad. While winning a title is a stretch, we all know it;'s not the only time a wrestling promotion has done this.

TNA is trying to do the same thing, at least be happy they didn't give him a singles belt and really showoff his (lack of) skills.

YOUR Hero 09-13-2007 10:04 PM
I totally agree it's stupid, I'm not arguing that point with you or anybody, but when Goldberg trashes these guys like he did it shows his mental prowess.

Kane Knight 09-14-2007 12:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
They were not only ever brought in to make an existing feud stronger, they've been brought in, in the past to capitalize on the celebrates popularity, be it good or bad. While winning a title is a stretch, we all know it;'s not the only time a wrestling promotion has done this.

TNA is trying to do the same thing, at least be happy they didn't give him a singles belt and really showoff his (lack of) skills.
Case in point: K-Fed. What did he strengthen? All he did was prove that even the most worthless piece of shit on the planet could get two or three people to pop him against Cena.

mrslackalack 09-14-2007 12:29 AM
I like TNA. But one thing that annoys me about them are some of the pointless angles and the frequent face/heel turns. I can quit watching it for a month and then tune in to see that the Angles are faces and Black Maschimo is a heel. Then 3 months later its switched again.

The Naitch 09-14-2007 11:30 PM
Goldberg is right

The MAC 09-15-2007 12:23 PM
lol at the person that said Goldberg has wrestling skill,

ask jericho put godlberg into submission in the lockerroom, ask Regal who showed the world how goldberg is. And finally Ask Bret Hart about Bill goldbergs wrestling ability.

Sephiroth 09-15-2007 01:42 PM
Yeah, i do agree, i hope Angle gets out of that place and goes back to the WWE, they could put him in some awesome matches.

Oh, and like lol bout Goldberg and shit.

br0ken 09-15-2007 02:30 PM
Was Goldberg going to go to TNA :?:


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