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Dorkchop 11-11-2007 10:44 PM

Genesis thread?
 
Any good matches?

Innovator 11-11-2007 10:45 PM

Booker is the guy, "The Silver Fox" Kevin Nash is working him over right now

El Fangel 11-11-2007 10:46 PM

Booker jobbing to Nash? TNA TNA TNA

Inadequacy 11-11-2007 10:49 PM

hooray Booker
if it weren't for The Office and Scrubs, he could bring me back to TNA

Xero 11-11-2007 10:49 PM

Is Booker called "Booker T"? "Booker H?"

El Fangel 11-11-2007 10:55 PM

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El Fangel 11-11-2007 10:55 PM

Nope, Jobber T

Xero 11-11-2007 10:56 PM

ROFL, Booker JOBBED?!

A7X 11-11-2007 11:00 PM

It's not like they'd put the title on him in his first match there, although it is TNA and he is a washed up has-been from WWE so i guess they wanna build him up to headline their company.........and then lose him in the shuffle someplace like Rhino

6to1 11-11-2007 11:00 PM

kaz winning was good

Kane Knight 11-11-2007 11:01 PM

It's TNA. what do you expect?

Inadequacy 11-11-2007 11:02 PM

so, kaz has a title shot coming?
I don't know if that's cool or not
but he was in the WWE for a couple weeks so it's not like he won't hold the title sometime

Mr. Nerfect 11-11-2007 11:04 PM

I'm looking forward to Kurt Angle vs. Frankie Kazarian, I'll say that much. Those are the kind of matches that are going to set TNA apart from the WWE.

I'd also mark out for a stable featuring Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley.

Innovator 11-11-2007 11:06 PM

Angle pinned Sting, following Tomko and AJ interfering

Mr. Nerfect 11-11-2007 11:08 PM

Fun fact: Kazarian was undefeated in the WWE. Like he never lost a match...ever. I mean, he only had about four of them, but it's still 100% wins.

Hopefully they don't drop the ball here, and let Angle and Kazarian put on a good match. It'll probably be an Impact! title match, but it can still be fun.

Booker didn't job, Sting took the pin. Putting the TNA World Title on Booker in his first match would have been pretty silly. No dobut he'll get a title shot on PPV next month, or the month after, however. I actually think a switch then could be good.

Xero 11-11-2007 11:13 PM

Just read there were three debuts tonight on PWInsider. I see Sharmell and Booker. Who's the third one?

Mr. Nerfect 11-11-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Just read there were three debuts tonight on PWInsider. I see Sharmell and Booker. Who's the third one?

Johnny Stamboli under his "REDRUM" gimmick. He attacked Abyss, and beat-him down with Black Reign (Goldust...only not as cool). Apparently Stamboli is going under the name "Crimson Blood," which is ultra lame. Seriously, "Stamboli the Strangler" is even better.

Xero 11-11-2007 11:16 PM

Ah.

Mr. Nerfect 11-11-2007 11:16 PM

So hold up, Tomko & AJ Styles helped out Kurt Angle? Then wouldn't it have made more sense for Christian Cage to win the Ladder Match and get the shot against Angle? It can have the whole "you stole my team" dynamic to it. TNA booking is so confusing.

Inadequacy 11-11-2007 11:17 PM

I didn't see it, but I already want Johnny Stamboli to go away
this whole Abyss James Mitchell thing is getting too, I dunno, I kinda want to say crowded

Chuck Jones 11-11-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Inadequacy
I didn't see it, but I already want Johnny Stamboli to go away
this whole Abyss James Mitchell thing is getting too, I dunno, I kinda want to say crowded

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
It's TNA. what do you expect?


Loose Cannon 11-11-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
So hold up, Tomko & AJ Styles helped out Kurt Angle? Then wouldn't it have made more sense for Christian Cage to win the Ladder Match and get the shot against Angle? It can have the whole "you stole my team" dynamic to it. TNA booking is so confusing.

no it actually does work. Christian lost. Tomko and Styles don't want a loser leading them, so they went with the champ. actually makes perfect sense to me.

Mr. Nerfect 11-12-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
no it actually does work. Christian lost. Tomko and Styles don't want a loser leading them, so they went with the champ. actually makes perfect sense to me.

I suppose it does make sense, you're right. It'd just be typical TNA booking to have Christian's boys turn on him, only for there to be no pay-off.

I hope Christian Cage and Booker T get to do some segments together. They would have great comedic chemistry, I think.

The whole Jim Mitchell vs. Abyss thing doesn't really bother me. I mean, Johnny Stamboli is the most talented guy they've put against Abyss in the program so far. Raven was great, and has been working hard recently, but I don't know if he can be considered "in his prime."

I'd actually enjoy a stable of Jim Mitchell, Stamboli, Judas Mesias, Black Reign, Raven & Havok.

Loose Cannon 11-12-2007 12:32 AM

so are they all in a stable for real? that's pretty cool if so. I saw Black Reign attack Abyss on Thurs, but nobody else, so I didn't think they were all together.

LoDownM 11-12-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by A7X
It's not like they'd put the title on him in his first match there, although it is TNA and he is a washed up has-been from WWE so i guess they wanna build him up to headline their company.........and then lose him in the shuffle someplace like Rhino


How dare you.

Dave Youell 11-12-2007 04:43 AM

I can see Kaz and Angle having a really good match on TV, Angle retains with the help of Tomko and AJ, this leads to a Christian Face turn. If that’s the way they are going to go though, they need to turn some folks heel. Joe has lost stream recently, so him going heel wouldn’t be bad for him (IWC rulebook fact).

Looking forward to seeing this PPV, sounds like there were a couple of really decent matches on it

Outsider 11-12-2007 04:53 AM

So let me get this straight, we now have a company headlined by:

Kevin Nash
Jeff Jarrett
The Steiner Brothers
Booker T
and Sting.

Have we not been here before? :shifty:

Super V 11-12-2007 06:17 AM

Let's not jump to conclusions on a Kaz vs. Kurt Angle title match ever even happening guys. Idiots Dutch Mantel and Jeff Jarrett have proven many times over that #1 Contendorship matches mean shit in TNA.

Dave Youell 11-12-2007 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider
So let me get this straight, we now have a company headlined by:

Kevin Nash
Jeff Jarrett
The Steiner Brothers
Booker T
and Sting.

Have we not been here before? :shifty:

And Russo booking

Oh dear!

Nark Order 11-12-2007 01:27 PM

There are definitely remnants of WCW circa 1999, however; unlike WCW I'm actually enjoying TNA right now. They are taking alot of steps in the right direction. Christian vs Kaz was a MOTY canidate as expected, Dudleys vs MCMG was awesome, Sonjay vs Black Machismo really showcased the X-Division like it should be showcased (Not to mention, the Dudleys killing them afterwards is really heating up this Dudleys vs X-Division fued), even the Women's match wasn't half bad. Of course, there are a few stumbling points. Black Reign and Abyss was alright for what is was I guess but it could've easily been replaced with something better. Also, the Steiners need to get off TV. Other than that though, I'm really excited to see how the TNA product does in the next couple of years.

Jeritron 11-12-2007 01:33 PM

Booker T is a major addition to them. It's the best pickup they've had since Angle easily

BigDaddyCool 11-12-2007 02:13 PM

TNA is horrible. I can't believe anyone pays money to see that crap.

Nark Order 11-12-2007 02:16 PM

Believe it. And there are many who do not share your opinion. For instance, the guys' house that we watch TNA PPVs at only watches TNA and no other prowrestling of any kind.

BigDaddyCool 11-12-2007 02:16 PM

Also, is Hall back with TNA, or was the for one night only? What the hell is up with that?

Nark Order 11-12-2007 02:22 PM

Not entirely sure. He'll probably make random ass appearances from time to time. He didn't look to be that much in shape to carry a full time schedule. I could be wrong though, he had a gigantic jersey on.

Kane Knight 11-12-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
Booker T is a major addition to them. It's the best pickup they've had since Angle easily

I dunno.

To me, it reeks of the whole "Hiring other guys' big names" more than a major addition. Part of this may simply be that I view Booker as past his prime and of limited interest, which fits into TNA's roster scheme. Several guys on their roster now should have retired already, and are past their prime shells.

Compare that to Angle, and Angle's gotten better in TNA. Angle's a serious coup, Booker, though?

Nark Order 11-12-2007 02:41 PM

Yeah, at first I thought that this whole Booker T situation was really only going to hurt things rather than help them. TNA hiring every single WWE reject just because they can makes them seem pretty desperate. It does help though that Book asked for his release rather than him being fired. Also, we don't know what their plans are for him. My guess would be for them to build him up for a long while and then progressively have him start sending new guys to the top.

As for them hiring every WWE reject... we'll see how the Masters situation pans out.

Jeritron 11-12-2007 02:45 PM

Well he's no Angle, and not near the coup Jericho would have been. Also, he isn't the rising star in his prime that Christian is. So he doesn't top them.
But aside from that, I still think its a good pick up. Esepcially since normally they pick up Rikishi, Test and Goldust.

At least Booker T is a former WWE champion (recently to boot) and is able to help out their title picture. He's also got name recognition value, since he can go by Booker T.

He is past his prime though, I agree. It definitely reeks of hiring the other promotions big names, but thats what WCW did to get on the map. They just didn't know to shift focus once they were on top.

With the state of TNA, I don't see how adding Booker T to the roster is anything but good, especially compared to just about every move they've made since snagging Angle a year ago.

Kane Knight 11-12-2007 02:53 PM

Are you dissin' the Kish, Jeritron?

Because it's on, now! :foc:

Kane Knight 11-12-2007 02:54 PM

No, but seriously, he's much bigger than their usual fare, yes. Name power, anyway. I'm not sure if he's actually worth their money, though.


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