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El Fangel 11-17-2007 09:03 AM

Rate The Musician/Artist #7 - Wu Tang Clan
 
Howdy Folks, Last up was Eminem, who scored a fairly solid 60 overall, which puts him in 4th place.

1) Tupac -85
2) Guns N' Roses - 83
3) Metallica - 75
4) Eminem - 60
5) Staind - 31
6) 50 Cent - 27
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Now as per Krispys Request, This time we have

WU TANG CLAN

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Wu-Tang Clan is a New York-based rap group, consisting of nine American rappers. Among its members are multi-platinum selling solo artists, multi-platinum record producers, Grammy winners, TV and film stars, screenwriters, product spokespersons, business owners and, most recently, major motion picture composers. The Clan featured nine MCs until the death of Ol' Dirty Bastard in 2004. One of the most critically and commercially successful hip hop groups of all time, Wu-Tang Clan shot to fame through their uncompromising brand of hardcore rap music. Since their debut, they have introduced or launched the careers of numerous other artists and groups, and already in 1994 there were credited to be over 300 Wu-Tang Clan affiliates, known as the Wu-Tang Killa Bees, consisting of rappers, producers, and record label CEOs.

El Fangel 11-17-2007 09:09 AM

Ill be nice and raise my original score of 0, Not to piss of Krispy, but I pretty much despise rap, and 9 rappers, all of whom I dislike, besides Ol Dirty Bastard, who sadly is not there anymore

RIP

1/10

Kane Knight 11-17-2007 09:38 AM

1. Wu Tang blows ass.

Or is it "sucks ass?"

El Fangel 11-17-2007 09:43 AM

I don't know, The concept that in a blowjob you suck, has always confused me.

ron the dial 11-17-2007 09:57 AM

7/10

Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) is easily one of my favorite rap albums of all time. Outside of the group's work as a whole, their solo efforts are hit or miss with quite a few solid discs (namely Liquid Swords and Tical). As it seems to be with most artists, though, they've seemed to drop off a bit recently. I'm hoping that the new record doesn't suck.

Ogen 11-17-2007 12:59 PM

2/10

Never got the whole Wu-Tang thing at all.

ct2k 11-17-2007 01:29 PM

9/10


I love that shit, simple as. Also I love the solo stuff I've heard by all of them, especially Ghostface, Inspectah Deck and the GZA. Oh and Afro Samurai ftw.

Crossrine 11-17-2007 01:58 PM

5/10. Mainly because during its popularity you could get into someones face and yell "Wu Tang Clan aint nuthing to fuck wit"

FakeLaser 11-17-2007 02:23 PM

8

I thought you were supposed to vary these. The last like 17 have been rap artists

Inadequacy 11-17-2007 02:24 PM

Ghostface Killah was on 30 Rock a couple times
this, coupled with the fact that I'm annoyed with Fallen Angel "despising rap" is why I'm saying 10/10

Inadequacy 11-17-2007 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeRazor
8

I thought you were supposed to vary these. The last like 17 have been rap artists

yeah, you even told me it was going to be NOFX today, and I came in excited for it, and now it turns out you lied

Kris P Lettus 11-17-2007 02:26 PM

10/10

THEY ARE MY FAVORITE OF ALL TIME

Gonzo 11-17-2007 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Ill be nice and raise my original score of 0, Not to piss of Krispy, but I pretty much despise rap, and 9 rappers, all of whom I dislike, besides Ol Dirty Bastard, who sadly is not there anymore

RIP

1/10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
1. Wu Tang blows ass.

Or is it "sucks ass?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogen
2/10

Never got the whole Wu-Tang thing at all.

I do not understand any of you. And FA, if you don't even like the genre why would you vote on this? Not that this really matters, but its just blatant bias.

To me, Wu Tang really is forever. They embody rap music, good rap music. I think their efforts both as a group and solo span across to appeal to all tastes and styles, and their work is ahead of their time. The garbage that is the "rap genre" today can't hold a candle to Wu. In a business sense they have an immense enterprise, with the Wu Tang, and the whole Wu Fam. They've spawned so many other careers besides those of the original nine and while they all might not be on the level of the Wu Tang Clan, there are quite a few that are just as good. RZA is a hell of a business man, no matter what you want to say of their music. When he led the charge when they broke onto the scene, he took them in the direction they needed to be.

Gonzo 11-17-2007 05:38 PM

oh btw 10/10.

and my signature for good measure.

Kane Knight 11-17-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeRazor
8

I thought you were supposed to vary these. The last like 17 have been rap artists

Metallica and GNR. Totally rap, man.

Though they do really lack in variety.

Funky Fly 11-17-2007 06:41 PM

8

Me likey.

D Mac 11-17-2007 07:07 PM

8

Downunder 11-17-2007 07:11 PM

8

El Fangel 11-17-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inadequacy
Ghostface Killah was on 30 Rock a couple times
this, coupled with the fact that I'm annoyed with Fallen Angel "despising rap" is why I'm saying 10/10

Ok Going to clear a few things up, Im going 3 of each genre as I previously stated, last time it was rap, and I asked Kripsy to suggest one, which was rap, so blame Krispy.

Frazor - Its on number seven which have been 3 rock, and 4 rap so far, Im never going to please everyone with who I choose, and not going to try.

Inadequacy - You know I despise rap, because of how rap became popular it created Wiggers, I fucking Hate wiggers.

Gonzo - I rate everyone, even If I despise the genre, the reason I despise is because it all sounds the same to me, about bitches, Ho's, Nines, AK's, Ice, Pimps. I like older rap (Tupac who wasn't sooo much into that, Eminem because neither is he)
It chokes the airwaves, I never turn on the radio because its what every radio station seems to be playing

And also read Inad's reply for why I despise rap.

There are some good artists out there who do rap, and I like them, but besides those, IMO Rap has brought a gangsta culture to the world. and all I can say about that is fucking thanks.

El Fangel 11-17-2007 08:30 PM

Oh and tomorrow is NOFX, start your bitching in here, that way tomorrow I won't see it.

Crossrine 11-17-2007 08:35 PM

:wtf: NOFX?

El Fangel 11-17-2007 08:36 PM

Is that a who the fuck are they, who why the fuck would you do that look? \

Gonzo 11-17-2007 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Gonzo - I rate everyone, even If I despise the genre, the reason I despise is because it all sounds the same to me, about bitches, Ho's, Nines, AK's, Ice, Pimps. I like older rap (Tupac who wasn't sooo much into that, Eminem because neither is he)

lol C'mon man. Wu Tang broke out with 36 Chambers in 1991. Its a 16 year old record, and came out right around the time Tupac debuted. Maybe you just don't have an ear for it, some people don't. My brother listens to Ska or whatever its called and I can't listen to it because I admittedly don't have an ear for it. But Wu Tang, although they are still making music today, are older music. And Wu Tang is not all about those things you mentioned. Sure some of its incorporated, but its incorporated into 99% of rap songs ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
It chokes the airwaves, I never turn on the radio because its what every radio station seems to be playing.

I 100% agree. The "rap" that is on the radio today, is absolutely terrible. This is why I don't listen to the radio. Most of the "rap" today, I would actually classify as hip-hoppy pop bullshit.

ron the dial 11-17-2007 08:41 PM

Wu-Tang raps about very little of what you're describing the rap genre embodies. Yes, some of it is involved but that's part of the lifestyle. That's like saying every metal band sings about Satan and killing virgins and drinking blood. Obviously, not all do. It's rather unfair to paint a group with that brush if you haven't actually listened to what they have to offer.

Also, good call on throwing NOFX out there. Amazing.

Crossrine 11-17-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
Is that a who the fuck are they, who why the fuck would you do that look?
Little of both, mainly the first one. Is it like initialed?

Gonzo 11-17-2007 08:43 PM

Good example, with NOFX. I can't listen to them but anyone I've ever talked to about them say they're good. I'm not going to sit here and rate them shitty or whatever, its stupid.

I don't happen to like country music at all, but I'm not going to come out and say Garth Brooks sucks either. He's arguably one of the most successful musicians ever.

ron the dial 11-17-2007 08:44 PM

Nah, it's just NOFX. Second wave punk band started in the late 80s. Check out the album Punk in Drublic to get feel, if you so desire.

El Fangel 11-17-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weapon X
That's like saying every metal band sings about Satan and killing virgins and drinking blood.

Name five bands that do 2/3 of what you describes.

Crossrine 11-17-2007 08:47 PM

Testament and other generic Death Metal bands

El Fangel 11-17-2007 08:49 PM

Also as I said, all I Hear is rap, new crap rap, which some were brought onto the scence by WTC.

El Fangel 11-17-2007 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossrine
Testament and other generic Death Metal bands

And how much of the genre consist of Death Metal bands? maybe 1%

Crossrine 11-17-2007 08:57 PM

Hey hey calm down I'm not argueing with you here. I'm actually a big fan of metal

Gonzo 11-17-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Also as I said, all I Hear is rap, new crap rap, which some were brought onto the scence by WTC.

Name me 5 crappy rappers brought onto the seen by the Wu. You're drowning on that one already man.

Kane Knight 11-17-2007 09:13 PM

I don't know what you guys are bitching about. I'd kill to not have a radio choked with country like 90% of America. Given the choice between the shit that passes for country these days and the shit that passes for Rap these days, I'd take rap. At least shitty "beats" will be less boring than shitty nasally vocals with sacharine lyrics.

And yeah, every genre has a fucking stereotype, and you can probably find a ton of bands to back up every last one of them. Not to mention, it doesn't matter if Death Metal is 1% of the scene, unless 1% is fewer than 5 bands (And since it's much more than five bands), it doesn't really matter.

Finally, Wu Tang still sucks ass. I don't care if they're not new rap, they're not sterotypical rap, or whatever, they're annoying as fuck.

Inadequacy 11-17-2007 09:18 PM

I thought you were only going to do three rap

El Fangel 11-17-2007 09:24 PM

Can You read? Go back like 15 posts.

ct2k 11-17-2007 09:24 PM

Man seriously Wu-Tang are known for their stream-of-consciousness, Five Percenter lyrics, not the generic shit you might associate with the fictional 'rap' genre Evangelical-conservatives want to ban. They practically ushered in a new era of hardcore rap which was specifically against the 'gangsta' grain of the time.

Gonzo 11-17-2007 09:28 PM

lol thank you ct2k

Man, I won't debate this anymore. Music is subjective after all. If you don't like Wu Tang thats fine, but they do not suck. Far from it.

El Fangel 11-17-2007 09:34 PM

Im actually considering doing this a new way, hopefully to please everyone, Im thinking of doing 4 people a day, 1 from metal/rock 1 from Country, 1 from rap/hiphop/r&b/ and another from Punk.

what you think?

Inadequacy 11-17-2007 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Can You read? Go back like 15 posts.

I didn't have a chance to say it back then


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