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St. Jimmy 11-29-2007 01:56 PM

Heartbreak and Triumph: The Shawn Michaels Story
 
Amazing documentary. Good inside into Shawns' life in the 90s'. Triple H finally fessing up on camera that he was the first one to speak up on the idea of the screw job. Not that anyone really cares, but hearing Triple H say "Fuck Him" when talking about Bret made me kinda mark out. I suggest a watch.

thedamndest 11-29-2007 02:44 PM

Was it supposed to look like Bret Hart submitted to the Sharpshooter, or was the idea to create the evil Mr. McMahon character right then?

HeartBreakMan2k 11-29-2007 02:53 PM

Someone should post a torrent for this so that I may have it without purchase.

Corporate CockSnogger 11-29-2007 03:19 PM

it's up on dailymotion last I checked for anyone that's interested. Just y'know, search for HBK story or HBK DVD or something along those lines.

IC Champion 11-29-2007 03:22 PM

Fuck HHH.

IC Champion 11-29-2007 03:22 PM

Seriously, fuck HHH and his two quads, Hart was twice the wrestler HHH could have ever hoped to be.

St. Jimmy 11-29-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 1946576)
Seriously, fuck HHH and his two quads, Hart was twice the wrestler HHH could have ever hoped to be.

Was that before, or after the stroke? Cause I really see no difference.

Avenger 11-29-2007 03:43 PM

lol

all-round considering all the qualities you might want in a pro-wrestler in the last 20 years. Trips is better. sorry

Nark Order 11-29-2007 03:49 PM

*Waiting for angry Canadians to make war in this thread*

BlackDawn2024 11-29-2007 04:16 PM

Hunter>Bret

Shawn's DVD>Bret's DVD

Xero 11-29-2007 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avenger (Post 1946614)
lol

all-round considering all the qualities you might want in a pro-wrestler in the last 20 years. Trips is better. sorry


IC Champion 11-29-2007 04:34 PM

Fuckin Americans.

Xero 11-29-2007 04:40 PM

I am Bret Hart. :| I show no emotions in promos. :| When I do, I look like a pansy. :mad: America sucks. :| I'm gonna go to WCW. :| Why you screw me, Vince? :'( Goldberg's foot looks nice... *SPLAT* :drool::wtf:

addy2hotty 11-29-2007 04:48 PM

Excellent documentary. Seemed like Shawn was letting off a lot of steam and getting out a lot of demons, you could see him struggling when talking about his drug problems.

Moment of the doc for me though....easy...

'Fuck him...' - too true Hunter, too true.

DiBiase said it right as well - '...it shouldn't matter where you lose.'

St. Jimmy 11-29-2007 04:49 PM

Xero Limit ftw.

IC Champion 11-29-2007 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1946689)
I am Bret Hart. :| I show no emotions in promos. :| When I do, I look like a pansy. :mad: America sucks. :| I'm gonna go to WCW. :| Why you screw me, Vince? :'( Goldberg's foot looks nice... *SPLAT* :drool::wtf:

We are no longer friends. Good day.

Nark Order 11-29-2007 05:18 PM

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Disturbed316 11-29-2007 06:52 PM

lol Bret was awesome, fuck all of you!

weather vane 11-29-2007 07:01 PM

Great DVD. Just watched it. It almost got me excited for Wrestlemania this year.

Nark Order 11-29-2007 08:43 PM

Wonderful documentary. You can watch the entire thing on youtube if you're cheap. I did but it makes me want to buy it now.

PorkSoda 11-30-2007 12:10 AM

Great DVD.

They could have added so many more matches though. I'm not gonna spend money on From The Vault to get more SM matches.

Seriously, they forgot the match with Vader, Mankind, Taker at Badd Blood, 60 minute iron man, didnt include the barber shop segment.....

Other than that, its great. Its still worth buying.

Zen v.W.o. 11-30-2007 12:20 AM

Amazing. HBK dvd and most of the chat is centered once again around Bret. Bigger name value.

Seriously though, the kissing of the ass is astounding whenever HHH or HBK or Flair are involved. Brisco called HBK heroic...lol, for what? And secondly, bit of an exaggerration much?

Then Trips calls Bret unprofessional. What they FAIL to note was Bret telling HBK to his face he was willing to job to him. HBK said "thanks, I appreciate it, but I'm not willing to do the same for you." What class and professionalism there. A spit in the face to Bret, and the business. Bret then said fuck him, why should I job to a guy like that? Cant blame him.

Also take note: HBK had a habit of dropping titles. Not jobbing and putting guys over.

Another note: HBK would listen to Vince if it benfits him to do so. If it doesnt, he whines and squirms his way out of doing them.

So yeah, anybody calling Bret unprofessional and then praising HBK...lolz.

Dibiase, good guy, but it wasnt about losing the title in Canada..it was about a bit of reason, HBK being a bitch, Bret had more time on the contract..well into december. And oh yeah, it was more about not jobbing to a guy that wouldnt appreciate it...you think Bret wouldnt job to Austin or Taker in Canada? Fuck yeah he would have. Hell, he's jobbed enough in Canada.

btw, talk about being a bitch..HBK was pissed that he had to do the deed for a man like Austin at Mania..when it was clearly best for business and Austins time.

So fuck HBK, the biggest pussy going. btw, nice gay garb there HBK..fucking wearing a chicks tank top throughout the docu.

And fuck HHH for being a pussy that would never spew shit to a guys face.

Good matches though, I enjoyed those.:y:

Nark Order 11-30-2007 12:25 AM

Zen, you're a moron that did not watch the doc. They spoke of bret for maybe 5-6 minutes.

Zen v.W.o. 11-30-2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 1947259)
Zen, you're a moron that did not watch the doc. They spoke of bret for maybe 5-6 minutes.

I didnt watch the doc? I saw HBK crying about wanting to be there for his son in a gut wrenching, touching moment. About the only time HBK ever seemed sincere about anything in his life.
And I saw HBK acting like a homo on numerous clips, showing off some great cock sucking ability which he must have had practice on.

I saw Dick Hickenbottom(lol).

And I saw Patterson calling him great in the ring but not so great out of it.

I saw Trips talking about HBK getting on Takers last nerve.

Basically what I culled from this was HBK: Marvellous talent, huge fucking pussy ass douche.

Nark Order 11-30-2007 12:33 AM

Well, ok then. Then you saw it and you know that you're lying. It was in no way centered around Bret. They barely spoke of him at all other than Montreal for a couple minutes.

Nark Order 11-30-2007 12:38 AM

I've accepted the fact that you are completely dillusional about Bret though, and will not dare to try to speak logic to you.

Zen v.W.o. 11-30-2007 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 1947274)
Well, ok then. Then you saw it and you know that you're lying. It was in no way centered around Bret. They barely spoke of him at all other than Montreal for a couple minutes.

Well that isnt what I meant. I meant this is the about HBK dvd, and yet we here on tpww are going on and on about Bret, "shockingly".

Dudes, get OVER it, if you claim you are. I make no denials..I'll harp about it whenever it's brought up.

Nark Order 11-30-2007 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 1947284)
Well that isnt what I meant. I meant this is the about HBK dvd, and yet we here on tpww are going on and on about Bret, "shockingly".

I see. Harp on then.

Zen v.W.o. 11-30-2007 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 1947280)
I've accepted the fact that you are completely dillusional about Bret though, and will not dare to try to speak logic to you.

About what? I know Bret isnt an angel, but I dont hear much talk about Bret being a prick, besides by guys who hang with Shawn.

Meanwhile, how many guys have shit to say about HBK and even HHH?

I just deal with facts.

Nark Order 11-30-2007 12:53 AM

I don't know one person on these forums that wouldn't admit to HBK being a complete dick for the better part of his career nor do I know anybody that would dispute Trips being one of the worst backstage politicians of all time.

Nark Order 11-30-2007 12:55 AM

Nor did many on the actual DVD say that HBK wasn't an ass.

Nark Order 11-30-2007 01:00 AM

Not meaning to piss in your cheerios Zen but half of the DVD was dedicated to him being a crazy, self-absorbed, pill popper. What more would you like?

Zen v.W.o. 11-30-2007 01:16 AM

If everyone recognizes HHH and co to be hypocrites for ever calling someone else unprofessional and act as if they are clean, I'm content.
That's really the only reason why I ranted tonight.

I just wish Trips wasn't so delusional. Reminds me a bit of Warrior and Hogan.

ps...I'm happy Warrior ruined your first WM experience.

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These are the parts of the DVD that concern montreal.

The MAC 11-30-2007 12:44 PM

Nice spin there JR : cus he got a better deal..bullshit.. he was forced out of wwf

and brets contract was not up... so fuck you hhh

Heyman 11-30-2007 01:06 PM

Zen - can I ask you a serious question:

Are you related to Bret in real life? (I guess if you were, you wouldn't admit it on here anyways, but I was just curious).

I guess I'm having a difficult time comprehending why some people STILL feel so passionate and angry over the Montreal Screwjob....an even that took place over 10 years ago.

What saddens me the most about Bret, is how he consistently attacks HBK whenever the subject of Montreal is brought up. In effect, Bret goes down to HBK's level. Compare this with Mick Foley and how he dealt with Flair. Or how Triple H dealt with Goldberg a few years ago at an autograph signing.

From my view point, Bret has had NUMEROUS chances to prove that he is the bigger man than HBK. Unfortunately however, Bret has squandered all of those opportunities....by constanty "going down" to the level of HBK, Flair etc. when they take pot-shots at him (and responding in equal child-like fashion). In the end, HBK comes across as a man who has changed for the better (and admits to his past problems). Bret on the other hand, comes across as a guy who is still bitter about the past (even if it's not as bad as people like me think).

As a proud Canadian citizen, it pains me to say this, but I do think HBK is the bigger man than Bret at this point in their lives.

Blue Demon 11-30-2007 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1946689)
I am Bret Hart. :| I show no emotions in promos. :| When I do, I look like a pansy. :mad: America sucks. :| I'm gonna go to WCW. :| Why you screw me, Vince? :'( Goldberg's foot looks nice... *SPLAT* :drool::wtf:

I'm a HUGE Bret fan.....but that kinda made me :lol:

Blue Demon 11-30-2007 01:59 PM

And I get to meet Bret tomorrow at a book signing....I'll post some pics if I remember my camera.

Jura 11-30-2007 02:26 PM

His voice sounds so different now compared to back then.

Kane Knight 11-30-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 1947284)
Well that isnt what I meant. I meant this is the about HBK dvd, and yet we here on tpww are going on and on about Bret, "shockingly".

Narc doesn't understand English very well. He didn't understand that you were talking about the thread, despite that being the logical conclusion from actually reading what you had said. :yes:


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